I’m a recruiter AMA

[Anonymous]

If another position opened up right after you submitted application for one, does it matter if you wait a few days to apply for the new one or right away? Mid-level at large corp but local openings (and I think they use Deloitte)

[Anonymous]

To add: the new position is a better fit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If another position opened up right after you submitted application for one, does it matter if you wait a few days to apply for the new one or right away? Mid-level at large corp but local openings (and I think they use Deloitte)

No difference in applying right away or waiting. The ATS flags that you also applied for another role. The recruiter(s) will see it. If you are interviewed for one, the recruiter for the role may ask you which one you prefer. (Know that it may be two different recruiters for two different roles in the same company and this could play out a myriad of ways for you). Be thoughtful in your answer doing what is right for you.

[Anonymous]

I recently interviewed with a large employer for a new role. They mentioned they were in process of interviewing the supervisor for this new role as well. I thought interviewing for the new role without a manager in place was premature. I checked in with recruiter and found out they are not moving forward with filling the new position until the manager has been hired. I’m pretty angry that I wasted my time preparing for the interview. Would you advise I withdraw from consideration? Seems like a red flag.

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Anonymous wrote:I recently interviewed with a large employer for a new role. They mentioned they were in process of interviewing the supervisor for this new role as well. I thought interviewing for the new role without a manager in place was premature. I checked in with recruiter and found out they are not moving forward with filling the new position until the manager has been hired. I’m pretty angry that I wasted my time preparing for the interview. Would you advise I withdraw from consideration? Seems like a red flag.

I mean, if it annoys you that much, yes pull out. If you can appreciate that a company works through things and figures things out especially related to a new role, and you do want to be considered once the manager is hired, you respond appropriately. Not a red flag from my seat.

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Anonymous wrote:Does your company use Workday? I have been applying to jobs with Workday, and I autofill my resume. Then, I have to list my experience, which is essentially the exact same thing. So I use the same verbiage. Is this incorrect? Why does Workday ask to provide this information two different time?

OP. I’ve used Workday yes. It’s a solid HRIS(meaning employee records, employee Self Service, manager approval workflows, Performance Mgmt processes, etc.) But it’s a terrible ATS compared to others. Workday even said as much to our then executives who were dealing with aftermath of several dozens of recruiters who felt like they Lost capability when we switched to it. It’s a terrible candidate experience too which is the part you see and feel.

Agreed. My firm uses Workday for internal and external recruiting. My most annoying experience with it was losing a promotion to a coworker in my same group. After the interview, HR never closed the Workday posting even though the job was filled by my coworker. So every time I went into my personal interface in Workday to apply for another internal position I had to look at a "decision pending" status for a job I lost. It took them a year to close it. Possibly the HR recruiter person left which is why it got hung up. We also have an AI assistant that offers you interview slots with no real way to request a slot that would work better. Also rude. Considering that I'm internal and scheduling around work the company is paying me to prioritize over my career advancement.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I recently interviewed with a large employer for a new role. They mentioned they were in process of interviewing the supervisor for this new role as well. I thought interviewing for the new role without a manager in place was premature. I checked in with recruiter and found out they are not moving forward with filling the new position until the manager has been hired. I’m pretty angry that I wasted my time preparing for the interview. Would you advise I withdraw from consideration? Seems like a red flag.

I mean, if it annoys you that much, yes pull out. If you can appreciate that a company works through things and figures things out especially related to a new role, and you do want to be considered once the manager is hired, you respond appropriately. Not a red flag from my seat.

Poster here-appreciate the perspective but isn’t it disrespectful of applicants and shows the office is extremely disorganized? I’ve been a hiring manager and I would not recruit in this manner.
Also the recruiter spelled my (very common) first name wrong which pissed me off.

That said, how would a professional response sound?

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OP, what is your view if a person just started a job (less than two weeks) and is quickly realizing this is not going to go well. Lax internal controls, apparent lack of respect for the position, etc. if that person continues looking for a different job does that person need to disclose the current role to the new prospective employer? In prior positions, tenure was long, so no history of job hopping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, what is your view if a person just started a job (less than two weeks) and is quickly realizing this is not going to go well. Lax internal controls, apparent lack of respect for the position, etc. if that person continues looking for a different job does that person need to disclose the current role to the new prospective employer? In prior positions, tenure was long, so no history of job hopping.

OP. Been there. I would omit it from your resume (and from LinkedIn make sure they match). It happens. Especially in this job market where folks are hoping for the best of a situation and it doesn’t work out. Keep searching! Good Luck!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I recently interviewed with a large employer for a new role. They mentioned they were in process of interviewing the supervisor for this new role as well. I thought interviewing for the new role without a manager in place was premature. I checked in with recruiter and found out they are not moving forward with filling the new position until the manager has been hired. I’m pretty angry that I wasted my time preparing for the interview. Would you advise I withdraw from consideration? Seems like a red flag.

I mean, if it annoys you that much, yes pull out. If you can appreciate that a company works through things and figures things out especially related to a new role, and you do want to be considered once the manager is hired, you respond appropriately. Not a red flag from my seat.

Poster here-appreciate the perspective but isn’t it disrespectful of applicants and shows the office is extremely disorganized? I’ve been a hiring manager and I would not recruit in this manner.
Also the recruiter spelled my (very common) first name wrong which pissed me off.

That said, how would a professional response sound?

Ok with that added context they do sound a little disheveled. Here’s a response to use or edit: ‘Thank you so much for the update. In the event that the search reopens once the new manager is situated, I would love to be considered. Will you keep my profile in your system or should I look for a new posting to apply to in the future?’

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what is your view if a person just started a job (less than two weeks) and is quickly realizing this is not going to go well. Lax internal controls, apparent lack of respect for the position, etc. if that person continues looking for a different job does that person need to disclose the current role to the new prospective employer? In prior positions, tenure was long, so no history of job hopping.

OP. Been there. I would omit it from your resume (and from LinkedIn make sure they match). It happens. Especially in this job market where folks are hoping for the best of a situation and it doesn’t work out. Keep searching! Good Luck!

Thanks OP, does the short term position need to be disclosed in application or other materials to pass a background check? There would be a W-2 at some point.