Schools closed for students Monday Feb 2

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Anonymous wrote:Does code orange mean it’s a teacher workday?

It means the union through a fit and teachers are no longer going in.

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Anonymous wrote:Does code orange mean it’s a teacher workday?

At the very least the email said that teachers need to submit grades by the end of the first day back, which they anticipate being Tuesday. Yippee.

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Anonymous wrote:This screams union all over it.

They missed their records day 1/26 so are getting it 2/2. Kids be damned.

Yup. That’s the way this makes sense. They need the grading day back despite being closed all of last week.

You try finalizing grades for 150 kids on the same day you are meeting new kids and planning for a new quarter.

And if you respond with, “it should have been done last week” when we weren’t getting paid… you are part of the problem why educators leave. The disrespect is unfathomable.

Don’t worry-you’ll get paid for a full day’s work when MCPS adds 4 half days in June and you put videos on to entertain the students while you clean out you classroom, when you’re paid a good salary to do actual instructional time.

Teachers will not get paid for make up days. We were paid last week, we don’t get paid for those days again.

Yes you got a paid vacation last week while most of America had to work. And you will likely make up those days working half time in June showing kids videos when school is in effect over. So you get gifted a week of time this year where you don’t have to do instruction.

In most other salaried jobs, you have to work til the work gets done. We don’t get to show videos.

And again:

I graded over 40 hours this week. Yes, I was working. I was grading essays every day since the snow/ice started.

So where is this gift of a week off? I’ll just work another week later in addition to this one.

Not that poster but am genuinely trying to understand - if we had whole of last week open, you would have graded at night right? So because school was closed you could do it at your leisure. Either ways that work should have been done. If it was an IT job, you just need things done, no one cares how many hours you put into it. I'm assuming teachers will have to complete grading by a deadline. If school extends an extra week, it's still part of the job so why complain? In other jobs we don't get to do that.

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Anonymous wrote:This screams union all over it.

They missed their records day 1/26 so are getting it 2/2. Kids be damned.

Yup. That’s the way this makes sense. They need the grading day back despite being closed all of last week.

You try finalizing grades for 150 kids on the same day you are meeting new kids and planning for a new quarter.

And if you respond with, “it should have been done last week” when we weren’t getting paid… you are part of the problem why educators leave. The disrespect is unfathomable.

I don't understand this attitude. You're a salaried employee, you don't "not get paid" for any particular day. Other professions don't get to put work off because there's a snow day.

Wait, but when I have to teach on makeup days in June I actually won’t be paid for that. Our work isn’t canceled — it’s just rescheduled.

+1 There are many who don't know this. After contigency days, the make up days we teach are unpaid!

No other salaried professional talks like this. No lawyer working weekends says they're "not getting paid." They're getting their salary for doing all the work that needs to be done.

Lawyers are not salaried? They are billing each and every hour

They have billing expectations, but are salaried.

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Anonymous wrote:Does code orange mean it’s a teacher workday?[/quote
No it means Taylor's CO buddies have to go to work and the horrible mothers that shouldn't have had children get to send their kids to childcare. Basically, Thomas Taylor's world turned upside down.

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Every job has it's positives and negatives.

Teaching has it's perks, snow days are one of them.

Teachers also have work that seems impossible to complete in their duty day (planning, grading, prepping lessons, documentation, parent contact, Behavior plans, IEP's... it goes on and on). Both are true.

The good thing is, anyone is welcome to become a teacher, if you want.

But back to the actual thread: The county's changed it to a code orange. I'm not sure why they thought they could make up a new type of day on the fly to begin with. It seems the powers that be do not like office workers to work when all staff is not called in, too. But again, that's just different roles and different perks. I think it'll be good to have offices open, maybe now I can actually get ahold of ERSC when I call!

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Anonymous wrote:This screams union all over it.

They missed their records day 1/26 so are getting it 2/2. Kids be damned.

Yup. That’s the way this makes sense. They need the grading day back despite being closed all of last week.

You try finalizing grades for 150 kids on the same day you are meeting new kids and planning for a new quarter.

And if you respond with, “it should have been done last week” when we weren’t getting paid… you are part of the problem why educators leave. The disrespect is unfathomable.

I don't understand this attitude. You're a salaried employee, you don't "not get paid" for any particular day. Other professions don't get to put work off because there's a snow day.

Do you n the e a reading lesson? Salaried teachers have a contract that clearly states the number of days they work, how many hours per day, etc. I’m sorry your $300k salary job doesn’t have a union. We low class teachers need unions to protect us from the likes of you

But you didn't have to work last week. Maybe if you put off grading sure. But that's not MCPS's fault.

Put off grading?

Try this instead: we don’t get dedicated hours for grading. Therefore we grade at 10pm on Thursday, 8am on Saturday, 2pm on Sunday. This is why I work over 60 hours a week. Grading.

So it’s not that I’m putting it off. It’s that work doesn’t give me time to do it.

This literally has nothing to do with the makeup days. You didn't have to provide instruction last week, so there will be makeup days to makeup for that. You'll be paid the salary you agreed to.

I wish all I had to worry about is instruction.

Unfortunately, my job has a few pesky requirements that I’m not given time at work to complete. You know, silly little things like grading papers and planning instruction. All of that happens at home.

I know many people think the magic just materializes in the classroom. In truth, it occurs because of the work I do every single night, every single weekend, and (yes) every single snow day.

So you’re welcome. My instruction is so amazing because of the work I do at home. And you won’t get away with suggesting I’m lazy.

Regarding pay: no, I’m not paid enough. But you can make up for it by being a reasonable, respectful person. That’s all I ask.

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Anonymous wrote:This screams union all over it.

They missed their records day 1/26 so are getting it 2/2. Kids be damned.

Yup. That’s the way this makes sense. They need the grading day back despite being closed all of last week.

You try finalizing grades for 150 kids on the same day you are meeting new kids and planning for a new quarter.

And if you respond with, “it should have been done last week” when we weren’t getting paid… you are part of the problem why educators leave. The disrespect is unfathomable.

Don’t worry-you’ll get paid for a full day’s work when MCPS adds 4 half days in June and you put videos on to entertain the students while you clean out you classroom, when you’re paid a good salary to do actual instructional time.

Teachers will not get paid for make up days. We were paid last week, we don’t get paid for those days again.

Yes you got a paid vacation last week while most of America had to work. And you will likely make up those days working half time in June showing kids videos when school is in effect over. So you get gifted a week of time this year where you don’t have to do instruction.

In most other salaried jobs, you have to work til the work gets done. We don’t get to show videos.

And again:

I graded over 40 hours this week. Yes, I was working. I was grading essays every day since the snow/ice started.

So where is this gift of a week off? I’ll just work another week later in addition to this one.

Not that poster but am genuinely trying to understand - if we had whole of last week open, you would have graded at night right? So because school was closed you could do it at your leisure. Either ways that work should have been done. If it was an IT job, you just need things done, no one cares how many hours you put into it. I'm assuming teachers will have to complete grading by a deadline. If school extends an extra week, it's still part of the job so why complain? In other jobs we don't get to do that.

It means they would not have graded the assignments or just given random grades if they missed the deadline. Some teachers were working but there is no excuse that they didn't have everything graded on time.

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Anonymous wrote:This screams union all over it.

They missed their records day 1/26 so are getting it 2/2. Kids be damned.

Yup. That’s the way this makes sense. They need the grading day back despite being closed all of last week.

You try finalizing grades for 150 kids on the same day you are meeting new kids and planning for a new quarter.

And if you respond with, “it should have been done last week” when we weren’t getting paid… you are part of the problem why educators leave. The disrespect is unfathomable.

I don't understand this attitude. You're a salaried employee, you don't "not get paid" for any particular day. Other professions don't get to put work off because there's a snow day.

Do you n the e a reading lesson? Salaried teachers have a contract that clearly states the number of days they work, how many hours per day, etc. I’m sorry your $300k salary job doesn’t have a union. We low class teachers need unions to protect us from the likes of you

But you didn't have to work last week. Maybe if you put off grading sure. But that's not MCPS's fault.

Put off grading?

Try this instead: we don’t get dedicated hours for grading. Therefore we grade at 10pm on Thursday, 8am on Saturday, 2pm on Sunday. This is why I work over 60 hours a week. Grading.

So it’s not that I’m putting it off. It’s that work doesn’t give me time to do it.

This literally has nothing to do with the makeup days. You didn't have to provide instruction last week, so there will be makeup days to makeup for that. You'll be paid the salary you agreed to.

I wish all I had to worry about is instruction.

Unfortunately, my job has a few pesky requirements that I’m not given time at work to complete. You know, silly little things like grading papers and planning instruction. All of that happens at home.

I know many people think the magic just materializes in the classroom. In truth, it occurs because of the work I do every single night, every single weekend, and (yes) every single snow day.

So you’re welcome. My instruction is so amazing because of the work I do at home. And you won’t get away with suggesting I’m lazy.

Regarding pay: no, I’m not paid enough. But you can make up for it by being a reasonable, respectful person. That’s all I ask.

You are paid what teachers are paid. If its not enough, find another profession. Its equal or better to many other county jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This screams union all over it.

They missed their records day 1/26 so are getting it 2/2. Kids be damned.

Yup. That’s the way this makes sense. They need the grading day back despite being closed all of last week.

You try finalizing grades for 150 kids on the same day you are meeting new kids and planning for a new quarter.

And if you respond with, “it should have been done last week” when we weren’t getting paid… you are part of the problem why educators leave. The disrespect is unfathomable.

I don't understand this attitude. You're a salaried employee, you don't "not get paid" for any particular day. Other professions don't get to put work off because there's a snow day.

Wait, but when I have to teach on makeup days in June I actually won’t be paid for that. Our work isn’t canceled — it’s just rescheduled.

+1 There are many who don't know this. After contigency days, the make up days we teach are unpaid!

No other salaried professional talks like this. No lawyer working weekends says they're "not getting paid." They're getting their salary for doing all the work that needs to be done.

If i was truly salaried I could take off at noon every day because i have periods 6,7, and 8 as planning. But I can’t because I am contracted to be there for 8 hours regardless of what I have done. Teachers are really hourly employees that had all their hours computed for the year.

If you have three planning periods, then where is the issue? That's more than most teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:Does code orange mean it’s a teacher workday?

It means the union through a fit and teachers are no longer going in.

There are three unions that represent MCPS - administrators and support staff also have unions. MCPS sent out a message that matched none of the operating status options they’ve communicated in the past and also gave schools no clarification on what the expectations were. Everyone? Just teachers? Teachers and support staff? It was unclear and I’m glad they sent a new message.

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Anonymous wrote:They just changed it to teachers stay home and have the day off as well.

Teachers' union yelped real quick and got Taylor to back down. How embarrassing.

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Anonymous wrote:Does code orange mean it’s a teacher workday?

At the very least the email said that teachers need to submit grades by the end of the first day back, which they anticipate being Tuesday. Yippee.

Oh goodie. One of my kids’ teachers had a long-term leave and only returned right before the snow days and my kid is showing a bunch of missing assignments that the teacher hasn’t fixed in the system.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does code orange mean it’s a teacher workday?

It means the union through a fit and teachers are no longer going in.

There are three unions that represent MCPS - administrators and support staff also have unions. MCPS sent out a message that matched none of the operating status options they’ve communicated in the past and also gave schools no clarification on what the expectations were. Everyone? Just teachers? Teachers and support staff? It was unclear and I’m glad they sent a new message.

+1 it was very unclear and bizarre

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Anonymous wrote:This screams union all over it.

They missed their records day 1/26 so are getting it 2/2. Kids be damned.

Yup. That’s the way this makes sense. They need the grading day back despite being closed all of last week.

You try finalizing grades for 150 kids on the same day you are meeting new kids and planning for a new quarter.

And if you respond with, “it should have been done last week” when we weren’t getting paid… you are part of the problem why educators leave. The disrespect is unfathomable.

I don't understand this attitude. You're a salaried employee, you don't "not get paid" for any particular day. Other professions don't get to put work off because there's a snow day.

Wait, but when I have to teach on makeup days in June I actually won’t be paid for that. Our work isn’t canceled — it’s just rescheduled.

+1 There are many who don't know this. After contigency days, the make up days we teach are unpaid!

No other salaried professional talks like this. No lawyer working weekends says they're "not getting paid." They're getting their salary for doing all the work that needs to be done.

If i was truly salaried I could take off at noon every day because i have periods 6,7, and 8 as planning. But I can’t because I am contracted to be there for 8 hours regardless of what I have done. Teachers are really hourly employees that had all their hours computed for the year.

If you have three planning periods, then where is the issue? That's more than most teachers.

Im not complaining. I love that my school allows me 3 planning periods. Gets a little long when my teaching day is over at 11:10 and I stay until 2:40. I do a lot of walking in the halls. Check in on a handful of students.