Is responsibility for your own bag too much to ask?

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

I am one of the people calling the overreactors here jerks but I don't think FAs (or anyone) should be REQUIRED to help and I believe FAs are sometimes not allowed to because it exposes the airline to workers comp risks

Of course they shouldn't. They aren't even PAID while passengers are boarding. What kind of a AH would ask someone not even being paid to do a basic task that they should be able to complete themselves.

Why should they? They “should” be taller? They “should” be older (in the case of children) or younger (in the case of the elderly)? Perhaps the aircraft designers “should” have taken more care with making bins accessible for more passengers, but your idea of what people “should” be able to do is simply…your idea.

Is this putative child not traveling in the company of an adult?!

Are you unfamiliar with unaccompanied minors?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

I am one of the people calling the overreactors here jerks but I don't think FAs (or anyone) should be REQUIRED to help and I believe FAs are sometimes not allowed to because it exposes the airline to workers comp risks

Of course they shouldn't. They aren't even PAID while passengers are boarding. What kind of a AH would ask someone not even being paid to do a basic task that they should be able to complete themselves.

Why should they? They “should” be taller? They “should” be older (in the case of children) or younger (in the case of the elderly)? Perhaps the aircraft designers “should” have taken more care with making bins accessible for more passengers, but your idea of what people “should” be able to do is simply…your idea.

No but they SHOULD check a bag they can’t lift into the overhead if they’re too short, old, young, etc.

You completely missed the point of this post.

Your point is obvious— people with fewer or different physical abilities should pay $35-$50 and hours of their time to ensure that a greater share of the resources they paid for are made available to you and those you deem worthy.

The airlines could have a rule like this if they wanted, and they do not, because such a rule would disproportionately impact travelers based on matters such as age, sex, and disability— in other words such a rule would be illegal.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

I am one of the people calling the overreactors here jerks but I don't think FAs (or anyone) should be REQUIRED to help and I believe FAs are sometimes not allowed to because it exposes the airline to workers comp risks

Of course they shouldn't. They aren't even PAID while passengers are boarding. What kind of a AH would ask someone not even being paid to do a basic task that they should be able to complete themselves.

Why should they? They “should” be taller? They “should” be older (in the case of children) or younger (in the case of the elderly)? Perhaps the aircraft designers “should” have taken more care with making bins accessible for more passengers, but your idea of what people “should” be able to do is simply…your idea.

No but they SHOULD check a bag they can’t lift into the overhead if they’re too short, old, young, etc.

You completely missed the point of this post.

Your point is obvious— people with fewer or different physical abilities should pay $35-$50 and hours of their time to ensure that a greater share of the resources they paid for are made available to you and those you deem worthy.

The airlines could have a rule like this if they wanted, and they do not, because such a rule would disproportionately impact travelers based on matters such as age, sex, and disability— in other words such a rule would be illegal.

In my first trimester with my second child I was on a lifting restriction - nothing over 10 lbs and nothing over my head over 5 lbs. I had to travel for work and asked a man if he’d be willing to put my bag in the overhead compartment for me. He clearly assumed it would be heavy/ expected it to be because he went to fling it up with both hands and he seemed very surprised when it went flying (and perhaps a bit confused).

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Pp here - I forget why I had a bag (also had my laptop). I had checked a bag too and had to let one of my colleagues know about my pregnancy. I hadn’t even told my family yet! He was amazing about meeting me at the carousel, getting my bag off it for me, loading it into the rental car, and then getting out out of the car for me. A different team member had just been reassigned to a different project and I wasn’t originally supposed to go so I think he was desperate to do what he could to have me there.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

I am one of the people calling the overreactors here jerks but I don't think FAs (or anyone) should be REQUIRED to help and I believe FAs are sometimes not allowed to because it exposes the airline to workers comp risks

Of course they shouldn't. They aren't even PAID while passengers are boarding. What kind of a AH would ask someone not even being paid to do a basic task that they should be able to complete themselves.

Why should they? They “should” be taller? They “should” be older (in the case of children) or younger (in the case of the elderly)? Perhaps the aircraft designers “should” have taken more care with making bins accessible for more passengers, but your idea of what people “should” be able to do is simply…your idea.

Is this putative child not traveling in the company of an adult?!

Are you unfamiliar with unaccompanied minors?

They have a FA assigned to them, and they PAY for this. Very different from just expecting people to manage your shit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

I am one of the people calling the overreactors here jerks but I don't think FAs (or anyone) should be REQUIRED to help and I believe FAs are sometimes not allowed to because it exposes the airline to workers comp risks

Of course they shouldn't. They aren't even PAID while passengers are boarding. What kind of a AH would ask someone not even being paid to do a basic task that they should be able to complete themselves.

Why should they? They “should” be taller? They “should” be older (in the case of children) or younger (in the case of the elderly)? Perhaps the aircraft designers “should” have taken more care with making bins accessible for more passengers, but your idea of what people “should” be able to do is simply…your idea.

No but they SHOULD check a bag they can’t lift into the overhead if they’re too short, old, young, etc.

You completely missed the point of this post.

Your point is obvious— people with fewer or different physical abilities should pay $35-$50 and hours of their time to ensure that a greater share of the resources they paid for are made available to you and those you deem worthy.

The airlines could have a rule like this if they wanted, and they do not, because such a rule would disproportionately impact travelers based on matters such as age, sex, and disability— in other words such a rule would be illegal.

In my first trimester with my second child I was on a lifting restriction - nothing over 10 lbs and nothing over my head over 5 lbs. I had to travel for work and asked a man if he’d be willing to put my bag in the overhead compartment for me. He clearly assumed it would be heavy/ expected it to be because he went to fling it up with both hands and he seemed very surprised when it went flying (and perhaps a bit confused).

Why would you not check this bag?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

I am one of the people calling the overreactors here jerks but I don't think FAs (or anyone) should be REQUIRED to help and I believe FAs are sometimes not allowed to because it exposes the airline to workers comp risks

Of course they shouldn't. They aren't even PAID while passengers are boarding. What kind of a AH would ask someone not even being paid to do a basic task that they should be able to complete themselves.

Why should they? They “should” be taller? They “should” be older (in the case of children) or younger (in the case of the elderly)? Perhaps the aircraft designers “should” have taken more care with making bins accessible for more passengers, but your idea of what people “should” be able to do is simply…your idea.

Is this putative child not traveling in the company of an adult?!

Are you unfamiliar with unaccompanied minors?

They have a FA assigned to them, and they PAY for this. Very different from just expecting people to manage your shit.

We all PAY for the use of overhead space. You’re saying people who don’t meet a specific criteria should not receive what they paid for — and in fact should pay more— because of where airline engineers chose to put access to bins. Its ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

I am one of the people calling the overreactors here jerks but I don't think FAs (or anyone) should be REQUIRED to help and I believe FAs are sometimes not allowed to because it exposes the airline to workers comp risks

Of course they shouldn't. They aren't even PAID while passengers are boarding. What kind of a AH would ask someone not even being paid to do a basic task that they should be able to complete themselves.

Why should they? They “should” be taller? They “should” be older (in the case of children) or younger (in the case of the elderly)? Perhaps the aircraft designers “should” have taken more care with making bins accessible for more passengers, but your idea of what people “should” be able to do is simply…your idea.

No but they SHOULD check a bag they can’t lift into the overhead if they’re too short, old, young, etc.

You completely missed the point of this post.

Your point is obvious— people with fewer or different physical abilities should pay $35-$50 and hours of their time to ensure that a greater share of the resources they paid for are made available to you and those you deem worthy.

The airlines could have a rule like this if they wanted, and they do not, because such a rule would disproportionately impact travelers based on matters such as age, sex, and disability— in other words such a rule would be illegal.

In my first trimester with my second child I was on a lifting restriction - nothing over 10 lbs and nothing over my head over 5 lbs. I had to travel for work and asked a man if he’d be willing to put my bag in the overhead compartment for me. He clearly assumed it would be heavy/ expected it to be because he went to fling it up with both hands and he seemed very surprised when it went flying (and perhaps a bit confused).

Good point, PP’s dystopia would also discriminate against pregnant women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

I am one of the people calling the overreactors here jerks but I don't think FAs (or anyone) should be REQUIRED to help and I believe FAs are sometimes not allowed to because it exposes the airline to workers comp risks

Of course they shouldn't. They aren't even PAID while passengers are boarding. What kind of a AH would ask someone not even being paid to do a basic task that they should be able to complete themselves.

Why should they? They “should” be taller? They “should” be older (in the case of children) or younger (in the case of the elderly)? Perhaps the aircraft designers “should” have taken more care with making bins accessible for more passengers, but your idea of what people “should” be able to do is simply…your idea.

No but they SHOULD check a bag they can’t lift into the overhead if they’re too short, old, young, etc.

You completely missed the point of this post.

Your point is obvious— people with fewer or different physical abilities should pay $35-$50 and hours of their time to ensure that a greater share of the resources they paid for are made available to you and those you deem worthy.

The airlines could have a rule like this if they wanted, and they do not, because such a rule would disproportionately impact travelers based on matters such as age, sex, and disability— in other words such a rule would be illegal.

In my first trimester with my second child I was on a lifting restriction - nothing over 10 lbs and nothing over my head over 5 lbs. I had to travel for work and asked a man if he’d be willing to put my bag in the overhead compartment for me. He clearly assumed it would be heavy/ expected it to be because he went to fling it up with both hands and he seemed very surprised when it went flying (and perhaps a bit confused).

Why would you not check this bag?

Pp here. I think my bags I brought on board (given my weight limitations) must have been my purse (or a backpack functioning as a purse?) and my laptop - so I really couldn’t check either. I booked my ticket very last minute since I was a replacement for my colleague (and also because it was to Florida in the summer during Zika and I had to check with my doctor). I can’t remember whether I sat in a bulkhead and didn’t have space in front of me or whether it was hard to fit my purse and my laptop or or if I just wanted the leg room. I did check my main bag but - since my total bags I carried with me were limited to 10 lbs - whatever I put overhead couldn’t have weighed much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

I am one of the people calling the overreactors here jerks but I don't think FAs (or anyone) should be REQUIRED to help and I believe FAs are sometimes not allowed to because it exposes the airline to workers comp risks

Of course they shouldn't. They aren't even PAID while passengers are boarding. What kind of a AH would ask someone not even being paid to do a basic task that they should be able to complete themselves.

Why should they? They “should” be taller? They “should” be older (in the case of children) or younger (in the case of the elderly)? Perhaps the aircraft designers “should” have taken more care with making bins accessible for more passengers, but your idea of what people “should” be able to do is simply…your idea.

Is this putative child not traveling in the company of an adult?!

Are you unfamiliar with unaccompanied minors?

They have a FA assigned to them, and they PAY for this. Very different from just expecting people to manage your shit.

We all PAY for the use of overhead space. You’re saying people who don’t meet a specific criteria should not receive what they paid for — and in fact should pay more— because of where airline engineers chose to put access to bins. Its ridiculous.

If you're paying for it, are you saying there is guaranteed allocated space just for you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

I am one of the people calling the overreactors here jerks but I don't think FAs (or anyone) should be REQUIRED to help and I believe FAs are sometimes not allowed to because it exposes the airline to workers comp risks

Of course they shouldn't. They aren't even PAID while passengers are boarding. What kind of a AH would ask someone not even being paid to do a basic task that they should be able to complete themselves.

Why should they? They “should” be taller? They “should” be older (in the case of children) or younger (in the case of the elderly)? Perhaps the aircraft designers “should” have taken more care with making bins accessible for more passengers, but your idea of what people “should” be able to do is simply…your idea.

No but they SHOULD check a bag they can’t lift into the overhead if they’re too short, old, young, etc.

You completely missed the point of this post.

Your point is obvious— people with fewer or different physical abilities should pay $35-$50 and hours of their time to ensure that a greater share of the resources they paid for are made available to you and those you deem worthy.

The airlines could have a rule like this if they wanted, and they do not, because such a rule would disproportionately impact travelers based on matters such as age, sex, and disability— in other words such a rule would be illegal.

Yes they absolutely should. If you’re not able you need to check. Life is not fair.

[Anonymous]

Eh, I always checked my bag when I was pregnant and traveled for business so I wouldn’t need to worry about lifting it.

And now that I’m getting older, I only carry on if I’m with my husband or kids—or if I’m only doing a quick overnight and have my lightweight shortie roller bag. My bigger roller bag is really heavy when I stuff it, and it’s not worth pulling my back or struggling with it.

Plus, nobody is guaranteed space in the overhead compartment. I have priority boarding on an airline, so I’m usually fine, but lots of people board once the overhead is full.

I wish the flight attendants would better police the boarding process. Too many people shove multiple items in the OH and most people don’t load the roller bags correctly.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

I am one of the people calling the overreactors here jerks but I don't think FAs (or anyone) should be REQUIRED to help and I believe FAs are sometimes not allowed to because it exposes the airline to workers comp risks

Of course they shouldn't. They aren't even PAID while passengers are boarding. What kind of a AH would ask someone not even being paid to do a basic task that they should be able to complete themselves.

Why should they? They “should” be taller? They “should” be older (in the case of children) or younger (in the case of the elderly)? Perhaps the aircraft designers “should” have taken more care with making bins accessible for more passengers, but your idea of what people “should” be able to do is simply…your idea.

Is this putative child not traveling in the company of an adult?!

Are you unfamiliar with unaccompanied minors?

They have a FA assigned to them, and they PAY for this. Very different from just expecting people to manage your shit.

My kids who travel as unaccompanied minors don't bring bags they can't lift. They go on with a backpack they can wear with just what they need for the flight, and their real bag is checked. That's how I see most other minors traveling too. The idea that the sickest and least able are bringing bags on waiting around for help just isn't as widespread as the contrarian wants everyone to think.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

I am one of the people calling the overreactors here jerks but I don't think FAs (or anyone) should be REQUIRED to help and I believe FAs are sometimes not allowed to because it exposes the airline to workers comp risks

Of course they shouldn't. They aren't even PAID while passengers are boarding. What kind of a AH would ask someone not even being paid to do a basic task that they should be able to complete themselves.

Why should they? They “should” be taller? They “should” be older (in the case of children) or younger (in the case of the elderly)? Perhaps the aircraft designers “should” have taken more care with making bins accessible for more passengers, but your idea of what people “should” be able to do is simply…your idea.

Is this putative child not traveling in the company of an adult?!

Are you unfamiliar with unaccompanied minors?

They have a FA assigned to them, and they PAY for this. Very different from just expecting people to manage your shit.

We all PAY for the use of overhead space. You’re saying people who don’t meet a specific criteria should not receive what they paid for — and in fact should pay more— because of where airline engineers chose to put access to bins. Its ridiculous.

No, you don’t pay for overhead space. No one is guaranteed any space. Maybe in first, but certainly nowhere else.

[Anonymous]

Apparently it is too much to ask.