“Amy Bradley is Missing” Netflix

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Now I’m seeing old articles from when the incident happened that mention the father going down to the club at 2:45/3 in the morning to check on Amy & Brad and bring them back to the room. They aren’t mentioning this anymore at the time of the Netflix documentary, but it ‘s a huge difference. Did they come up unwillingly? Was there a fight back in the room? Amy’s key card was a few minutes later than Brad’s. Did she reluctantly come back to the room and leave soon after - and everyone was awake and knows that? I just feel I like that detail of the dad gong to the club to get them could make everything they’ve said happened back in the room total bullshit. No sleeping on the balcony, no waking up to see her leg. Nothing that they say happened in that room makes any sense to me.



I don't know the dad wouldn't have let them be. But presumably everyone went to sleep at that point except Amy, who may or may not have napped on the balcony for a while. Not a super comfortable spot, so reasonable she would have gotten up again and either gone to bed or gone back out. My money's on go back out (especially if she had returned under duress in the first place), and the door closing woke her dad up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now I’m seeing old articles from when the incident happened that mention the father going down to the club at 2:45/3 in the morning to check on Amy & Brad and bring them back to the room. They aren’t mentioning this anymore at the time of the Netflix documentary, but it ‘s a huge difference. Did they come up unwillingly? Was there a fight back in the room? Amy’s key card was a few minutes later than Brad’s. Did she reluctantly come back to the room and leave soon after - and everyone was awake and knows that? I just feel I like that detail of the dad gong to the club to get them could make everything they’ve said happened back in the room total bullshit. No sleeping on the balcony, no waking up to see her leg. Nothing that they say happened in that room makes any sense to me.



I don't know the dad wouldn't have let them be. But presumably everyone went to sleep at that point except Amy, who may or may not have napped on the balcony for a while. Not a super comfortable spot, so reasonable she would have gotten up again and either gone to bed or gone back out. My money's on go back out (especially if she had returned under duress in the first place), and the door closing woke her dad up.



This does seem the most plausible scenario to me, but the trafficking piece is hard to wrap my head around. For all the reasons stated on this thread.
Anonymous
I finally finished the documentary. I feel really bad for her family. After watching it, I still think she fell or jumped overboard. Some of the eyewitness sighting were compelling, but, eyewitnesses are notoriously inaccurate. I also don't think she was distinctive enough looking for folks to remember her accurately.

One thing that gives me pause, what is up with the FBI folks? They seem to really think she was trafficked, anybody know if this is the case, or if the documentary just spun it that way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I finally finished the documentary. I feel really bad for her family. After watching it, I still think she fell or jumped overboard. Some of the eyewitness sighting were compelling, but, eyewitnesses are notoriously inaccurate. I also don't think she was distinctive enough looking for folks to remember her accurately.

One thing that gives me pause, what is up with the FBI folks? They seem to really think she was trafficked, anybody know if this is the case, or if the documentary just spun it that way.


FBI is pretty notorious for quickly calling things an accident/suicide. For them to continually put resources to this case for over 20 years makes me believe they have something. This isn't an area where investigators are sitting on their backside waiting for cases. The Caribbean is a hot bed of activity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Another point is the wallet left in the cabin. Apparently it was empty. Possible she just grabbed cash and stuck it in her pocket. I do that all the time.


But even then you needed ID to board the boat. Leaving with no ID is odd.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I truly do not know what to think. No one hypothesis works. Even getting sick over the side and falling seems far-fetched. Why would you climb up on a table as opposed to just going to the bathroom?

We don’t know which stateroom the Bradleys occupied, but some balconies on Rhapsody are angled like this:



Is it possible she didn’t want to puke ON the railing, so she attempted to lean over even further?


Didn't the weird guy in room next door say he would talk to her over the balcony?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I truly do not know what to think. No one hypothesis works. Even getting sick over the side and falling seems far-fetched. Why would you climb up on a table as opposed to just going to the bathroom?

We don’t know which stateroom the Bradleys occupied, but some balconies on Rhapsody are angled like this:



Is it possible she didn’t want to puke ON the railing, so she attempted to lean over even further?


Look at the ledge that juts out on the other side of the glass. No way there wouldn't have been evidence if she had vomited there. Especially given the dynamics of a moving boat.



If the design was similar to this pic, I agree. Not like the cleaners would have been able to clean the whole stretch of exterior where vomit would have hit. We know her camera was not on her. There is no evidence of suicidal ideation. To the contrary, seemed to be leaning into partying and having fun. Not seeing how the falling over theory works.


Titanic was a very popular movie then. Maybe she was being KING OF THE WORLD on the table that was pulled over.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another point is the wallet left in the cabin. Apparently it was empty. Possible she just grabbed cash and stuck it in her pocket. I do that all the time.


But even then you needed ID to board the boat. Leaving with no ID is odd.


If she was still drunk, may not have thought about that. Especially if she left with crew members.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I finally finished the documentary. I feel really bad for her family. After watching it, I still think she fell or jumped overboard. Some of the eyewitness sighting were compelling, but, eyewitnesses are notoriously inaccurate. I also don't think she was distinctive enough looking for folks to remember her accurately.

One thing that gives me pause, what is up with the FBI folks? They seem to really think she was trafficked, anybody know if this is the case, or if the documentary just spun it that way.


FBI is pretty notorious for quickly calling things an accident/suicide. For them to continually put resources to this case for over 20 years makes me believe they have something. This isn't an area where investigators are sitting on their backside waiting for cases. The Caribbean is a hot bed of activity.



Agreed. I presume this is because they found at least some of the sightings credible, and also the experts' belief her body would have been found if she had fallen or jumped overboard. This was based on current and wind patterns, proximity to shore etc. All of the different pieces get a little confusing, but if I'm not mistaken two of the three sightings identified Alfred Cotten as one of the two handlers. He's a well known pimp.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another point is the wallet left in the cabin. Apparently it was empty. Possible she just grabbed cash and stuck it in her pocket. I do that all the time.


But even then you needed ID to board the boat. Leaving with no ID is odd.


If she was still drunk, may not have thought about that. Especially if she left with crew members.


Left from WHERE with crew members? She was alone on the balcony at 6am. No cell phones. No knocks at the door.
Anonymous
So she decided to leave the room alone after no sleep and shoeless, stumbled upon crew members who quickly convinced her to leave with them (again barefoot) knowing she had an early excursion planned with her family?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So she decided to leave the room alone after no sleep and shoeless, stumbled upon crew members who quickly convinced her to leave with them (again barefoot) knowing she had an early excursion planned with her family?



The taxi driver who said he saw her looking for a phone on Curacao that day said she was wearing a white shirt, blue jeans, and was barefoot. That's the outfit her family said she was wearing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I finally finished the documentary. I feel really bad for her family. After watching it, I still think she fell or jumped overboard. Some of the eyewitness sighting were compelling, but, eyewitnesses are notoriously inaccurate. I also don't think she was distinctive enough looking for folks to remember her accurately.

One thing that gives me pause, what is up with the FBI folks? They seem to really think she was trafficked, anybody know if this is the case, or if the documentary just spun it that way.


FBI is pretty notorious for quickly calling things an accident/suicide. For them to continually put resources to this case for over 20 years makes me believe they have something. This isn't an area where investigators are sitting on their backside waiting for cases. The Caribbean is a hot bed of activity.



Agreed. I presume this is because they found at least some of the sightings credible, and also the experts' belief her body would have been found if she had fallen or jumped overboard. This was based on current and wind patterns, proximity to shore etc. All of the different pieces get a little confusing, but if I'm not mistaken two of the three sightings identified Alfred Cotten as one of the two handlers. He's a well known pimp.



I think the Alfred Cotton connection is a big deal. Two of the sightings with handlers correspond to his description. How could that be coincidental? Even if he was with a girl who looked like Amy, he should be able to provide details about her identity to rule her out. One of the sightings with him was Aruba in 2007. A woman's jawbone washed up there in 2010. It hasn't been DNA tested for Amy, only Natalie Holloway. Why?
Anonymous
Why did Yellow have the suitcase full of women's photos? Does he have a connection to Cotton?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why did Yellow have the suitcase full of women's photos? Does he have a connection to Cotton?



I don't think we have access to all the eyewitness sketches. The guy on the beach, who claimed he identified Amy's tattoos, supposedly also identified Yellow. I doubt this has been verified. Cotton was identified with Amy (or a lookalike) in San Francisco and Aruba.

Until they release all the sketches, we can only speculate. I think only the San Fran sketches were released, and it sure looks like Cotton. He ran sex tourism operations in the Caribbean, now is in poor health.
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