Why do teachers allow horribly behaved kids to stay in the classroom and disrupt other kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes and yes. For the cherry on top, if a psycho kid rampages and smashes up your room bc you told them to put their phone away then the teachers could be reviewed as poor at their job and risk losing their job.

OMG!

These policies are progressive-insanity. No wonder so many kids left for Private and never came back.

[Anonymous]

Admin needs butts in seats so they can climb the ladder. Teachers need to deal with the violence and inflate the grades to pass everyone or they will face retaliation. This is what education is.

[Anonymous]

Literally nothing they can do. And yes, it's hell.

[Anonymous]

The 2014 “Dear Colleague” Letter was issued jointly by the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights and the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division (the Departments).

Among other recommendations, the Departments advised schools and school districts to examine and correct how their disciplinary policies and practices, particularly concerning in-school and out-of-school suspensions, expulsions and referrals to law enforcement authorities, could have a disparate impact on students of a particular race.

The Departments explained that these “exclusionary disciplinary policies” cause students of color to miss instructional time and derail their educational growth and development, potentially contributing to what has been termed the “school to prison pipeline.” In an effort to curb such discriminatory disciplinary policies, the Departments provided guidance to schools and districts on “how to identify, avoid, and remedy discipline which might lead to discrimination.”

NPR reported that after the issuance of the 2014 guidance, “more than 50 of America’s largest school districts instituted discipline reform” including Fairfax and Montgomery counties. More than half of all states attempted to revise their laws to reduce suspensions and expulsions to the greatest extent possible. Although findings suggest that suspensions have declined in the wake of these measures, particularly for Hispanic students, “progress has been incremental, and black high school students are still twice as likely as whites to be suspended nationwide. So are students in special education.”

Despite these results, many educators, law enforcement professionals and parents have questioned whether the 2014 guidance, and districts’ response to it, has made schools far less safe.

The 2014 “Dear Colleague” letter is the origin of all the school disciplinary problems this thread is about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes and yes. For the cherry on top, if a psycho kid rampages and smashes up your room bc you told them to put their phone away then the teachers could be reviewed as poor at their job and risk losing their job.

OMG!

These policies are progressive-insanity. No wonder so many kids left for Private and never came back.

Read the post just above about Obama’s “Dear Colleague” letter from 2014.

That letter is what started the prohibition on suspensions and expulsions.

And yes: it is an insanity, which continues to harm our children and ruin our public educational systems, particularly in Montgomery and Fairfax counties.

[Anonymous]

bc these are still in effect no matter how many EOs

https://jjie.org/2014/01/09/obama-administration-unveils-school-discipline-guidelines/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 2014 “Dear Colleague” Letter was issued jointly by the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights and the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division (the Departments).

Among other recommendations, the Departments advised schools and school districts to examine and correct how their disciplinary policies and practices, particularly concerning in-school and out-of-school suspensions, expulsions and referrals to law enforcement authorities, could have a disparate impact on students of a particular race.

The Departments explained that these “exclusionary disciplinary policies” cause students of color to miss instructional time and derail their educational growth and development, potentially contributing to what has been termed the “school to prison pipeline.” In an effort to curb such discriminatory disciplinary policies, the Departments provided guidance to schools and districts on “how to identify, avoid, and remedy discipline which might lead to discrimination.”

NPR reported that after the issuance of the 2014 guidance, “more than 50 of America’s largest school districts instituted discipline reform” including Fairfax and Montgomery counties. More than half of all states attempted to revise their laws to reduce suspensions and expulsions to the greatest extent possible. Although findings suggest that suspensions have declined in the wake of these measures, particularly for Hispanic students, “progress has been incremental, and black high school students are still twice as likely as whites to be suspended nationwide. So are students in special education.”

Despite these results, many educators, law enforcement professionals and parents have questioned whether the 2014 guidance, and districts’ response to it, has made schools far less safe.

The 2014 “Dear Colleague” letter is the origin of all the school disciplinary problems this thread is about.

Maybe. But teachers in the last century had bricks through their windows for failing members of the football team. Just for example…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 2014 “Dear Colleague” Letter was issued jointly by the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights and the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division (the Departments).

Among other recommendations, the Departments advised schools and school districts to examine and correct how their disciplinary policies and practices, particularly concerning in-school and out-of-school suspensions, expulsions and referrals to law enforcement authorities, could have a disparate impact on students of a particular race.

The Departments explained that these “exclusionary disciplinary policies” cause students of color to miss instructional time and derail their educational growth and development, potentially contributing to what has been termed the “school to prison pipeline.” In an effort to curb such discriminatory disciplinary policies, the Departments provided guidance to schools and districts on “how to identify, avoid, and remedy discipline which might lead to discrimination.”

NPR reported that after the issuance of the 2014 guidance, “more than 50 of America’s largest school districts instituted discipline reform” including Fairfax and Montgomery counties. More than half of all states attempted to revise their laws to reduce suspensions and expulsions to the greatest extent possible. Although findings suggest that suspensions have declined in the wake of these measures, particularly for Hispanic students, “progress has been incremental, and black high school students are still twice as likely as whites to be suspended nationwide. So are students in special education.”

Despite these results, many educators, law enforcement professionals and parents have questioned whether the 2014 guidance, and districts’ response to it, has made schools far less safe.

The 2014 “Dear Colleague” letter is the origin of all the school disciplinary problems this thread is about.

You mean the one that was rescinded a decade ago?

[Anonymous]

Towns people harassing teachers is very bad. Principals on the other hand are suppose to value, support, and work with teachers, not retaliate on them for false numbers and definitely not fire and black ball them bc most good teachers will not stick around for the abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 2014 “Dear Colleague” Letter was issued jointly by the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights and the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division (the Departments).

Among other recommendations, the Departments advised schools and school districts to examine and correct how their disciplinary policies and practices, particularly concerning in-school and out-of-school suspensions, expulsions and referrals to law enforcement authorities, could have a disparate impact on students of a particular race.

The Departments explained that these “exclusionary disciplinary policies” cause students of color to miss instructional time and derail their educational growth and development, potentially contributing to what has been termed the “school to prison pipeline.” In an effort to curb such discriminatory disciplinary policies, the Departments provided guidance to schools and districts on “how to identify, avoid, and remedy discipline which might lead to discrimination.”

NPR reported that after the issuance of the 2014 guidance, “more than 50 of America’s largest school districts instituted discipline reform” including Fairfax and Montgomery counties. More than half of all states attempted to revise their laws to reduce suspensions and expulsions to the greatest extent possible. Although findings suggest that suspensions have declined in the wake of these measures, particularly for Hispanic students, “progress has been incremental, and black high school students are still twice as likely as whites to be suspended nationwide. So are students in special education.”

Despite these results, many educators, law enforcement professionals and parents have questioned whether the 2014 guidance, and districts’ response to it, has made schools far less safe.

The 2014 “Dear Colleague” letter is the origin of all the school disciplinary problems this thread is about.

OMG.

No wonder things have gotten so bad!

And it’s not just the classrooms.

The WaPo did a piece about how public bathroom doors are locked all day long in Montgomery County schools because of crimes and vandalism in the bathrooms.

Seriously: no toilet access in our schools?!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure it's been said already, but Restorative "Justice" sacrifices the education and safety of the civilized kids to attempt to help the uncivilized ones. There's no justice in forcing twenty kids to deal with one kid who can't or won't act appropriately. The truth is 99% of the time it's an issue if defective parenting, parents who are selfish and/or stupid and value their own time over the time necessary to teach their kids responsibility and respect. Restorative "Justice" exacerbates the deficiency at home by removing the accountability. Sure, it pretends to do the opposite but in practice and reality the kid is taught that he/she can get away with any impulse simply be pretending to be sorry later, with the added bonus of a group of people now fawning over poor little Johnny with the bad home life. Spare me. Restorative "Justice" itself was started to attempt to close the gap between White and Black suspension/expulsion rates. The opposite has happened. White kids have trended downwards while Black kids continue to climb. I've seen the date, it shows the White and Asian kids will get bust d for something once, maybe twice ,then shape up because their parents hold them accountable. The Black kids...well, some do, but many do not and this continues through high school. Reality isn't pretty, but failing to deal in it is even worse.

I was with you till you made it about race. Wtf!

[Anonymous]

Dont forget the raping. What would MCPS be without it's famous sexual assault traditions. They might have more teachers because teachers get fired if their students are violent rapists but admin get promoted and job security for retaliating on teachers.

[Anonymous]

I've become increasingly pro- school choice mainly bc, as threads like these show, we no longer live in a society where children can be educated and socialized at scale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've become increasingly pro- school choice mainly bc, as threads like these show, we no longer live in a society where children can be educated and socialized at scale.

Me too. We homeschool. I really didn’t see that coming (ever!), but the longer we do it, the more convinced I am that it’s the right decision.

[Anonymous]

There's a whole YouTube channel dedicated to interviewing teachers who retired because they just can't with the disrespect from students and unsupportive administrators.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvUDq_h_C0w It's called Teacher Therapy