S/O - More Rezoning and University Boulevard Corridor Plan

Anonymous
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The Planning, Housing, and Parks Committee is holding a work session on Monday, October 20th. If you live in the impacted area, please share your views, whatever they might be, with the Council before Monday.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/council/contact.html

It looks like they've decreased some of the proposed height limits (for example: original plan called to increase Safeway property max allowable height to 100 feet -- now decreasing to 60 feet -- currently zoned for 45 feet).

Much of the plan is dependent upon private property owners choosing to sell at some point, so who knows when/if any of this could happen. Even so, of greatest concern is connecting streets throughout Four Corners to University, greatly increasing cut-through traffic on streets that don't have sidewalks and are already filled with parked cars, since many homes don't have driveways and/or garages.


The main effect of this plan will be making land more expensive. When land prices increase, so do housing prices. In practice, this means that a three-story project on the Safeway lot that would be economically viable today won’t be economically viable when the height limit increases, because increasing the height limit increases the revenue potential of the land and therefore its price. At the same time, the three-story project would be more likely to deliver faster than the six-story project because the vacancy risk is lower (and the project is probably less complex in many respects). In sum, this proposal gets you more expensive housing farther into the future. I thought we needed more housing now.


I guess that explains why all those 2 story rowhomes in Georgetown are really cheap, according to your logic.


Were you reading a post that we can’t see?
Anonymous
University Blvd Corridor Plan is basically yet another not-so-thinly veiled gentrification push in one of the last affordable yet pleasant parts of MoCo.

The County’s Office of Legislative Oversight (OLO) has issued a Racial Equity and Social Justice (RESJ) impact statement for the UBC Plan, as is required for any Zoning Text Amendment (ZTA).

Full text is here:

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/resjis/ZTA/2025/ZTA25-12.pdf


The Office of Legislative Oversight anticipates ZTA 25-12 could have a negative impact on racial equity and social justice in the County. Given the high rates of homeownership of Black and Latinx community members in the University Boulevard Corridor Plan area, the proposed rezoning that is inherent to ZTA 25-12 could disproportionately displace existing Black and Latinx homeowners for the development of market-rate housing units that primarily benefits White, Asian, and Pacific Islander community members.

Today, the UBC Plan area is a racially and ethnically diverse community of nearly 10,000 community members; compared to the County, Black and Latinx community members are overrepresented in the Plan area.

The UBC Plan area is primarily a single-family home community where most community members are homeowners. The rates of homeownership for Black and Latinx community members in the Plan area are much higher than in the County overall.

The UBC Plan notes the “Plan area is
characterized by its general affordability compared with the County as a whole in sales prices, rents, and the large amount of housing stock that is income-restricted.”

Of note, tear down projects that replace older, more affordable single-family homes with newer, more expensive ones are not common in the Plan area.

Allowing multi-family housing in the proposed rezoning area could also adversely impact RESJ by encouraging the development of market-rate multi-family housing that could disproportionately displace existing Black and Latinx homeowners. A market analysis for the UBC Plan found that in the short- to mid-term, redevelopment in the rezoning area would most likely result in duplexes and stacked/piggyback townhouses. Thus, new multi-family housing development in the rezoning area would likely consist of smaller scale market-rate developments that do not require moderately-priced dwelling units (MPDUs).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:University Blvd Corridor Plan is basically yet another not-so-thinly veiled gentrification push in one of the last affordable yet pleasant parts of MoCo.

The County’s Office of Legislative Oversight (OLO) has issued a Racial Equity and Social Justice (RESJ) impact statement for the UBC Plan, as is required for any Zoning Text Amendment (ZTA).

Full text is here:

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/resjis/ZTA/2025/ZTA25-12.pdf


The Office of Legislative Oversight anticipates ZTA 25-12 could have a negative impact on racial equity and social justice in the County. Given the high rates of homeownership of Black and Latinx community members in the University Boulevard Corridor Plan area, the proposed rezoning that is inherent to ZTA 25-12 could disproportionately displace existing Black and Latinx homeowners for the development of market-rate housing units that primarily benefits White, Asian, and Pacific Islander community members.

Today, the UBC Plan area is a racially and ethnically diverse community of nearly 10,000 community members; compared to the County, Black and Latinx community members are overrepresented in the Plan area.

The UBC Plan area is primarily a single-family home community where most community members are homeowners. The rates of homeownership for Black and Latinx community members in the Plan area are much higher than in the County overall.

The UBC Plan notes the “Plan area is
characterized by its general affordability compared with the County as a whole in sales prices, rents, and the large amount of housing stock that is income-restricted.”

Of note, tear down projects that replace older, more affordable single-family homes with newer, more expensive ones are not common in the Plan area.

Allowing multi-family housing in the proposed rezoning area could also adversely impact RESJ by encouraging the development of market-rate multi-family housing that could disproportionately displace existing Black and Latinx homeowners. A market analysis for the UBC Plan found that in the short- to mid-term, redevelopment in the rezoning area would most likely result in duplexes and stacked/piggyback townhouses. Thus, new multi-family housing development in the rezoning area would likely consist of smaller scale market-rate developments that do not require moderately-priced dwelling units (MPDUs).


The council will not deny developers the opportunity to get relatively cheap land so that they can push homeowners out and build apartment buildings. For some reason a majority of the council doesn’t want people to own homes so wherever there’s naturally occurring affordable housing they change the zoning. At some point in the next three these properties will be reassessed and the homeowners whose land was involuntarily rezoned will get big surprise tax bills.
Anonymous
"I will not change my position no matter what other amendment comes before us,” Fani-Gonzalez said at Tuesday's meeting re: UBCP. How did this clown get elected?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"I will not change my position no matter what other amendment comes before us,” Fani-Gonzalez said at Tuesday's meeting re: UBCP. How did this clown get elected?



Was that when she voted against the Woodmoor amendment or when she voted against the amendment that would have prevented the plan from eliminating the workforce housing requirements in the countywide rezoning bill that she sponsored earlier this year? Fani-Gonzalez and Friedson both say they want to make housing more attainable for more people but they have launched a serious assault on the county programs that guarantee that at least some housing will be available to people who aren’t upper income.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"I will not change my position no matter what other amendment comes before us,” Fani-Gonzalez said at Tuesday's meeting re: UBCP. How did this clown get elected?



People love fools that promise them fanciful things that may or may not be in their own interests.

See, also, the White House.
Anonymous
Thank you to Mink, Jawando, and Katz for voting against the UBCP plan. Not that it will mean anything in the long run.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/12/02/divided-county-council-likely-to-pass-university-boulevard-corridor-plan/

I've been seeing a lot of comments on social media supporting Friedson for county executive. Are these bot posts? Developer shills? People cannot be serious about this guy.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Thank you to Mink, Jawando, and Katz for voting against the UBCP plan. Not that it will mean anything in the long run.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/12/02/divided-county-council-likely-to-pass-university-boulevard-corridor-plan/

I've been seeing a lot of comments on social media supporting Friedson for county executive. Are these bot posts? Developer shills? People cannot be serious about this guy.



Ah yes, the families that want more houses and apartments are all "developer shills".

You people and your silly conspiracy theories are no better than trump.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you to Mink, Jawando, and Katz for voting against the UBCP plan. Not that it will mean anything in the long run.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/12/02/divided-county-council-likely-to-pass-university-boulevard-corridor-plan/

I've been seeing a lot of comments on social media supporting Friedson for county executive. Are these bot posts? Developer shills? People cannot be serious about this guy.



Ah yes, the families that want more houses and apartments are all "developer shills".

You people and your silly conspiracy theories are no better than trump.


This is nothing but gentrification in disguise, no matter how much they try to Trojan horse it in progressive bona fides.

I look forward to Friedson and Fani-Gonzalez getting soundly defeated in the next election.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you to Mink, Jawando, and Katz for voting against the UBCP plan. Not that it will mean anything in the long run.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/12/02/divided-county-council-likely-to-pass-university-boulevard-corridor-plan/

I've been seeing a lot of comments on social media supporting Friedson for county executive. Are these bot posts? Developer shills? People cannot be serious about this guy.



Ah yes, the families that want more houses and apartments are all "developer shills".

You people and your silly conspiracy theories are no better than trump.


This is nothing but gentrification in disguise, no matter how much they try to Trojan horse it in progressive bona fides.

I look forward to Friedson and Fani-Gonzalez getting soundly defeated in the next election.


Gentrification will happen either way. Do you want Bethesda-style mansions or vaguely affordable townhomes?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you to Mink, Jawando, and Katz for voting against the UBCP plan. Not that it will mean anything in the long run.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/12/02/divided-county-council-likely-to-pass-university-boulevard-corridor-plan/

I've been seeing a lot of comments on social media supporting Friedson for county executive. Are these bot posts? Developer shills? People cannot be serious about this guy.



Ah yes, the families that want more houses and apartments are all "developer shills".

You people and your silly conspiracy theories are no better than trump.


This is nothing but gentrification in disguise, no matter how much they try to Trojan horse it in progressive bona fides.

I look forward to Friedson and Fani-Gonzalez getting soundly defeated in the next election.


Gentrification is when a neighborhood gets better, safer, and has nicer amenities for families.

You people seem to think neighborhoods need to stay stagnant.

Ok.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you to Mink, Jawando, and Katz for voting against the UBCP plan. Not that it will mean anything in the long run.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/12/02/divided-county-council-likely-to-pass-university-boulevard-corridor-plan/

I've been seeing a lot of comments on social media supporting Friedson for county executive. Are these bot posts? Developer shills? People cannot be serious about this guy.



Ah yes, the families that want more houses and apartments are all "developer shills".

You people and your silly conspiracy theories are no better than trump.


This is nothing but gentrification in disguise, no matter how much they try to Trojan horse it in progressive bona fides.

I look forward to Friedson and Fani-Gonzalez getting soundly defeated in the next election.



Gentrification will happen either way. Do you want Bethesda-style mansions or vaguely affordable townhomes?


The RESJ report says this will have a negative impact on Black and Latino homeowners in the area and proponents are just like, well….🫠

This is an area with higher than average minority home ownership rates, but who cares when you can sell people shitty townhomes and condos with exorbitant HOA fees?

It doesn’t have to be an either/or scenario. There are no Bethesda-style mansions coming to the University Blvd. corridor around Woodmoor/Four Corners/Kemp Mill. Do the new builds constructed on the empty parcels at University and Burnett look anything like McMansions? Or the newer cul-de-sac off Dennis? No, they’re pretty reasonable as far as new builds go.

Overpriced townhomes with an Orange Theory, a slop bowl joint, a mattress store, and a vape shop on the ground level is a literal hellscape of late-stage capitalism. Not sure why this is a YIMBY goal. There will be no artisanal locally owned businesses that actually invest dollars back into the community. The rent will be too high for that. Just more fast casual franchise crap, which Woodmoor shopping center already has enough of.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you to Mink, Jawando, and Katz for voting against the UBCP plan. Not that it will mean anything in the long run.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/12/02/divided-county-council-likely-to-pass-university-boulevard-corridor-plan/

I've been seeing a lot of comments on social media supporting Friedson for county executive. Are these bot posts? Developer shills? People cannot be serious about this guy.



Ah yes, the families that want more houses and apartments are all "developer shills".

You people and your silly conspiracy theories are no better than trump.


This is nothing but gentrification in disguise, no matter how much they try to Trojan horse it in progressive bona fides.

I look forward to Friedson and Fani-Gonzalez getting soundly defeated in the next election.



Gentrification will happen either way. Do you want Bethesda-style mansions or vaguely affordable townhomes?


The RESJ report says this will have a negative impact on Black and Latino homeowners in the area and proponents are just like, well….🫠

This is an area with higher than average minority home ownership rates, but who cares when you can sell people shitty townhomes and condos with exorbitant HOA fees?

It doesn’t have to be an either/or scenario. There are no Bethesda-style mansions coming to the University Blvd. corridor around Woodmoor/Four Corners/Kemp Mill. Do the new builds constructed on the empty parcels at University and Burnett look anything like McMansions? Or the newer cul-de-sac off Dennis? No, they’re pretty reasonable as far as new builds go.

Overpriced townhomes with an Orange Theory, a slop bowl joint, a mattress store, and a vape shop on the ground level is a literal hellscape of late-stage capitalism. Not sure why this is a YIMBY goal. There will be no artisanal locally owned businesses that actually invest dollars back into the community. The rent will be too high for that. Just more fast casual franchise crap, which Woodmoor shopping center already has enough of.


When the new builds are already going for over $1M, that doesn't speak well for what's to come in 10-20 years without changing course. More people fighting over the same number of homes doesn't work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you to Mink, Jawando, and Katz for voting against the UBCP plan. Not that it will mean anything in the long run.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/12/02/divided-county-council-likely-to-pass-university-boulevard-corridor-plan/

I've been seeing a lot of comments on social media supporting Friedson for county executive. Are these bot posts? Developer shills? People cannot be serious about this guy.



Ah yes, the families that want more houses and apartments are all "developer shills".

You people and your silly conspiracy theories are no better than trump.


This is nothing but gentrification in disguise, no matter how much they try to Trojan horse it in progressive bona fides.

I look forward to Friedson and Fani-Gonzalez getting soundly defeated in the next election.



Gentrification will happen either way. Do you want Bethesda-style mansions or vaguely affordable townhomes?


The RESJ report says this will have a negative impact on Black and Latino homeowners in the area and proponents are just like, well….🫠

This is an area with higher than average minority home ownership rates, but who cares when you can sell people shitty townhomes and condos with exorbitant HOA fees?

It doesn’t have to be an either/or scenario. There are no Bethesda-style mansions coming to the University Blvd. corridor around Woodmoor/Four Corners/Kemp Mill. Do the new builds constructed on the empty parcels at University and Burnett look anything like McMansions? Or the newer cul-de-sac off Dennis? No, they’re pretty reasonable as far as new builds go.

Overpriced townhomes with an Orange Theory, a slop bowl joint, a mattress store, and a vape shop on the ground level is a literal hellscape of late-stage capitalism. Not sure why this is a YIMBY goal. There will be no artisanal locally owned businesses that actually invest dollars back into the community. The rent will be too high for that. Just more fast casual franchise crap, which Woodmoor shopping center already has enough of.


When the new builds are already going for over $1M, that doesn't speak well for what's to come in 10-20 years without changing course. More people fighting over the same number of homes doesn't work.


Yes, we need the market to produce more homes available for purchase. The council needs to stop passing land policy that makes land more expensive and that promotes the construction of rentals instead of homes available for purchase.

Apartment rents have been flat or falling in most of the county since the county issued the rent stabilization rules, so that segment of the market is in better shape. The shortage (as reflected by continued price increases) is homes available for purchase.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you to Mink, Jawando, and Katz for voting against the UBCP plan. Not that it will mean anything in the long run.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/12/02/divided-county-council-likely-to-pass-university-boulevard-corridor-plan/

I've been seeing a lot of comments on social media supporting Friedson for county executive. Are these bot posts? Developer shills? People cannot be serious about this guy.



Ah yes, the families that want more houses and apartments are all "developer shills".

You people and your silly conspiracy theories are no better than trump.


This is nothing but gentrification in disguise, no matter how much they try to Trojan horse it in progressive bona fides.

I look forward to Friedson and Fani-Gonzalez getting soundly defeated in the next election.



Gentrification will happen either way. Do you want Bethesda-style mansions or vaguely affordable townhomes?


The RESJ report says this will have a negative impact on Black and Latino homeowners in the area and proponents are just like, well….🫠

This is an area with higher than average minority home ownership rates, but who cares when you can sell people shitty townhomes and condos with exorbitant HOA fees?

It doesn’t have to be an either/or scenario. There are no Bethesda-style mansions coming to the University Blvd. corridor around Woodmoor/Four Corners/Kemp Mill. Do the new builds constructed on the empty parcels at University and Burnett look anything like McMansions? Or the newer cul-de-sac off Dennis? No, they’re pretty reasonable as far as new builds go.

Overpriced townhomes with an Orange Theory, a slop bowl joint, a mattress store, and a vape shop on the ground level is a literal hellscape of late-stage capitalism. Not sure why this is a YIMBY goal. There will be no artisanal locally owned businesses that actually invest dollars back into the community. The rent will be too high for that. Just more fast casual franchise crap, which Woodmoor shopping center already has enough of.


When the new builds are already going for over $1M, that doesn't speak well for what's to come in 10-20 years without changing course. More people fighting over the same number of homes doesn't work.


Where are new builds in the area in question going for over 1M?
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