DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

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Anonymous wrote:Ok now this is a step forward. Appalling that it wasn't in place before. DC United posted this 30 minutes ago:

https://www.dcunited.com/news/d-c-united-launches-full-time-academy-program

Troy Lesesne stepped in as head coach, getting things done! They saw this DCUM post and got right on it.

Or they read the dcum post (unlikely) and laughed at all the ignorance being stated by people who obviously didn't know all this has been going on.

This announcement is way delayed to the public.

So when did this program start? And is it only for the U16 boys and not academy wide?

Not academy wide. Started this year. Very vague on details, focus, goals, how they will be accountable for the development. But at least they are trying to be better.

Yea it's a step in the right direction, hopefully it'll be all age groups next year. Still boggles my mind that they are so far behind other academies, especially for being in an area like DC.

It's what happens when as an organization you do nothing or the absolute minimum to get by while your competitors and their leadership have vision and actually execute and fund that vision. The capital investment to make this happen for one age group is minimal by DCU. Why it's happening. Creating a residency program and funding that, with a school, requires some real money. DCU won't do that and if they do, there will be new leadership in there that will spark that.

This still won't get your kid in the academy
Or was it you who got turned away?

How many days and hours each week do you spend in agony over the rejection and stewing in self pity?
There has got to be something else you can be obsessed with in the soccer world that actually has meaning and benefits you.
This can't be good for you mentally.

Let's say you recruit 100 DCUM people unto your anti DCU cause, what happens?
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Wrong, we're the ones that turned down the offer and went to a better funded academy. If DCU was up to par, we could have kept our kid local instead of having to go into a residency program. Try again.

If your kid is top tier, he doesn't have to be at the best funded academy.
Ballers don't need it.

The top ballers will be top ballers at any MLS Academy
Whether top funded or 28th funded.

I guess Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo and countless other massive talents who opted to go to bigger more sophisticated operations at the youth level messed that up then. GOT IT.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

Look at the list of MLS teams with the most homegrown signings. All of them have bigger funding for their academy kids than DCU.

If Rocky had trained in a real gym like Drago maybe he wouldn't have had such a hard fight.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

Look at the list of MLS teams with the most homegrown signings. All of them have bigger funding for their academy kids than DCU.

If Rocky had trained in a real gym like Drago maybe he wouldn't have had such a hard fight.

Exactly the point

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

This is an opinion and another lie.

Unless you can tell us the Individual Development Plan philosophy and process at all MLS Club Academies.
Then can present side by side comparisons on all the elements involved including metrics and the how, what, when etc.

You throw around the word Development like its magical pixie dust.
Its actually an identified process that qualitative and quantitative with independent markers based on the player.

So which players at DCU does not have an Individual Development Plan?
Where is your proof this doesn’t exist?

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

Look at the list of MLS teams with the most homegrown signings. All of them have bigger funding for their academy kids than DCU.

If Rocky had trained in a real gym like Drago maybe he wouldn't have had such a hard fight.

I thought Rocky won?

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

Look at the list of MLS teams with the most homegrown signings. All of them have bigger funding for their academy kids than DCU.

If Rocky had trained in a real gym like Drago maybe he wouldn't have had such a hard fight.

If it was all about funding the Division 1 in European leagues wouldn't be littered with players from small, low budget, no budget African, South American and CONCACAF youth clubs

People always seeking ready made excuses

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

Look at the list of MLS teams with the most homegrown signings. All of them have bigger funding for their academy kids than DCU.

If Rocky had trained in a real gym like Drago maybe he wouldn't have had such a hard fight.

If it was all about funding the Division 1 in European leagues wouldn't be littered with players from small, low budget, no budget African, South American and CONCACAF youth clubs

People always seeking ready made excuses

Got it. Anything Dcu does is good enough. You make the best arguments for “just ok” and mediocrity. DCU just missed the playoffs yet again for the 5th year in a row.

Let’s go DCU and the just ok academy that’s supposed to feed into it!!! Wohoo!

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

Look at the list of MLS teams with the most homegrown signings. All of them have bigger funding for their academy kids than DCU.

If Rocky had trained in a real gym like Drago maybe he wouldn't have had such a hard fight.

If it was all about funding the Division 1 in European leagues wouldn't be littered with players from small, low budget, no budget African, South American and CONCACAF youth clubs

People always seeking ready made excuses

Got it. Anything Dcu does is good enough. You make the best arguments for “just ok” and mediocrity. DCU just missed the playoffs yet again for the 5th year in a row.

Let’s go DCU and the just ok academy that’s supposed to feed into it!!! Wohoo!

Actually, the PP is saying the likes of you are exaggerating the downfalls of the DC academy, especially in comparison to other MLS academies.
They didn't say DCU is good enough or great.

No NY Red Bulls 2010's made the USYNT camp going on now in Florida.
Yet Red Bulls is referenced here as a standard bearer and far superior to DC with 1st Grade funding and top progressive leadership etc.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

Look at the list of MLS teams with the most homegrown signings. All of them have bigger funding for their academy kids than DCU.

If Rocky had trained in a real gym like Drago maybe he wouldn't have had such a hard fight.

If it was all about funding the Division 1 in European leagues wouldn't be littered with players from small, low budget, no budget African, South American and CONCACAF youth clubs

People always seeking ready made excuses

Got it. Anything Dcu does is good enough. You make the best arguments for “just ok” and mediocrity. DCU just missed the playoffs yet again for the 5th year in a row.

Let’s go DCU and the just ok academy that’s supposed to feed into it!!! Wohoo!

Actually, the PP is saying the likes of you are exaggerating the downfalls of the DC academy, especially in comparison to other MLS academies.
They didn't say DCU is good enough or great.

No NY Red Bulls 2010's made the USYNT camp going on now in Florida.
Yet Red Bulls is referenced here as a standard bearer and far superior to DC with 1st Grade funding and top progressive leadership etc.

We all know you’re the same person posting as diff posters. 🙄

You have posted zero things about what Dcu’s training is like and what they do well. Just they’re a pro youth academy. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

Look at the list of MLS teams with the most homegrown signings. All of them have bigger funding for their academy kids than DCU.

If Rocky had trained in a real gym like Drago maybe he wouldn't have had such a hard fight.

If it was all about funding the Division 1 in European leagues wouldn't be littered with players from small, low budget, no budget African, South American and CONCACAF youth clubs

People always seeking ready made excuses

Got it. Anything Dcu does is good enough. You make the best arguments for “just ok” and mediocrity. DCU just missed the playoffs yet again for the 5th year in a row.

Let’s go DCU and the just ok academy that’s supposed to feed into it!!! Wohoo!

Actually, the PP is saying the likes of you are exaggerating the downfalls of the DC academy, especially in comparison to other MLS academies.
They didn't say DCU is good enough or great.

No NY Red Bulls 2010's made the USYNT camp going on now in Florida.
Yet Red Bulls is referenced here as a standard bearer and far superior to DC with 1st Grade funding and top progressive leadership etc.

We all know you’re the same person posting as diff posters. 🙄

You have posted zero things about what Dcu’s training is like and what they do well. Just they’re a pro youth academy. Period.

We all know you're the same person who keeps thinking only one person is calling out BS on the dcu bashing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

Look at the list of MLS teams with the most homegrown signings. All of them have bigger funding for their academy kids than DCU.

If Rocky had trained in a real gym like Drago maybe he wouldn't have had such a hard fight.

If it was all about funding the Division 1 in European leagues wouldn't be littered with players from small, low budget, no budget African, South American and CONCACAF youth clubs

People always seeking ready made excuses

Got it. Anything Dcu does is good enough. You make the best arguments for “just ok” and mediocrity. DCU just missed the playoffs yet again for the 5th year in a row.

Let’s go DCU and the just ok academy that’s supposed to feed into it!!! Wohoo!

Actually, the PP is saying the likes of you are exaggerating the downfalls of the DC academy, especially in comparison to other MLS academies.
They didn't say DCU is good enough or great.

No NY Red Bulls 2010's made the USYNT camp going on now in Florida.
Yet Red Bulls is referenced here as a standard bearer and far superior to DC with 1st Grade funding and top progressive leadership etc.

And half of the 2009 usynt last year was comprised of Red Bull players. Not the camp, the final team. So what.

I don't know if they are the standard bears, but fact is Red Bulls and Union academy programs are far superior than DCU. Give us reasons why that's not true.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

Look at the list of MLS teams with the most homegrown signings. All of them have bigger funding for their academy kids than DCU.

If Rocky had trained in a real gym like Drago maybe he wouldn't have had such a hard fight.

If it was all about funding the Division 1 in European leagues wouldn't be littered with players from small, low budget, no budget African, South American and CONCACAF youth clubs

People always seeking ready made excuses

Got it. Anything Dcu does is good enough. You make the best arguments for “just ok” and mediocrity. DCU just missed the playoffs yet again for the 5th year in a row.

Let’s go DCU and the just ok academy that’s supposed to feed into it!!! Wohoo!

Actually, the PP is saying the likes of you are exaggerating the downfalls of the DC academy, especially in comparison to other MLS academies.
They didn't say DCU is good enough or great.

No NY Red Bulls 2010's made the USYNT camp going on now in Florida.
Yet Red Bulls is referenced here as a standard bearer and far superior to DC with 1st Grade funding and top progressive leadership etc.

We all know you’re the same person posting as diff posters. 🙄

You have posted zero things about what Dcu’s training is like and what they do well. Just they’re a pro youth academy. Period.

We all know you're the same person who keeps thinking only one person is calling out BS on the dcu bashing

List some “good” qualities of DCU besides that it’s an academy. You never do.

You rely with a non answer. Rinse and repeat.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

This is an opinion and another lie.

Unless you can tell us the Individual Development Plan philosophy and process at all MLS Club Academies.
Then can present side by side comparisons on all the elements involved including metrics and the how, what, when etc.

You throw around the word Development like its magical pixie dust.
Its actually an identified process that qualitative and quantitative with independent markers based on the player.

So which players at DCU does not have an Individual Development Plan?
Where is your proof this doesn’t exist?

Show me evidence that all players at DCU have an individual development plan that is both qualitative and quantitative. Would love to see that.

I know first hand that players have played an entire season with DCU and not received anything in any form of an IDP and barely got written feedback unless requested.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

Look at the list of MLS teams with the most homegrown signings. All of them have bigger funding for their academy kids than DCU.

If Rocky had trained in a real gym like Drago maybe he wouldn't have had such a hard fight.

If it was all about funding the Division 1 in European leagues wouldn't be littered with players from small, low budget, no budget African, South American and CONCACAF youth clubs

People always seeking ready made excuses

Dumb. The top tier programs in Europe take the kids out of lower tier programs that are talented to develop them to make money. They aren't already developed. Of course they have developed skills elsewhere but they get better training and access at a better academy. There is a reason why talented kids leave small programs and go to bigger ones with money money and more access.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about the best funded. It's about a system that actually tries to develop the kids in a consistent and proven way. There may be academies that have even less funding than DCU but have a commitment to real development that DCU doesn't have.

Look at the list of MLS teams with the most homegrown signings. All of them have bigger funding for their academy kids than DCU.

If Rocky had trained in a real gym like Drago maybe he wouldn't have had such a hard fight.

If it was all about funding the Division 1 in European leagues wouldn't be littered with players from small, low budget, no budget African, South American and CONCACAF youth clubs

People always seeking ready made excuses

Dumb. The top tier programs in Europe take the kids out of lower tier programs that are talented to develop them to make money. They aren't already developed. Of course they have developed skills elsewhere but they get better training and access at a better academy. There is a reason why talented kids leave small programs and go to bigger ones with money money and more access.

Explain to everyone how kids under 18 get developed by the top tier big funded academy programs in Europe if they're from South America, Africa and CONCACAF?