Petition: Later MCPS school start times

Anonymous
You can even call your provider and turn off the internet certain hours.

Thank goddess I grew up in cell phone-less years, and parents were actually parents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely a way to have later start times and fit in after school activities! -signed a Pediatrician


+100.

- signed HS teacher. I hate first period because kids are half asleep or come in late. Period 2 onwards is so much better


I’ve worked in high schools with 7:30am start times and 9am start times. 1st period always contains sleepy kids. Pushing start times back won’t change a thing.

Perhaps students shouldn’t stay up on their phones until 2am. I can’t tell you how many emails I get sent at 1:30am and 3am.


FFS. Stop. An hour and a half would undoubtedly make a difference, even if not ALL of the students would be bright eyed and bushy tailed.

We all know you just don’t want to stay later.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely a way to have later start times and fit in after school activities! -signed a Pediatrician


+100.

- signed HS teacher. I hate first period because kids are half asleep or come in late. Period 2 onwards is so much better


Please tell us how you can fit in activities, homework, shower and dinner with a later start time?


DP but all of that stuff you’re talking about falls under “parenting decisions”. The school should not give a crap about whether Larla has time for violin, a five course dinner, and an hour long bubble bath every night. The fact is that the schools start too early for teens and it is unhealthy. They should change the start time for the health of the kids, and the rest of the time management is up you, mom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely a way to have later start times and fit in after school activities! -signed a Pediatrician


+100.

- signed HS teacher. I hate first period because kids are half asleep or come in late. Period 2 onwards is so much better


I’ve worked in high schools with 7:30am start times and 9am start times. 1st period always contains sleepy kids. Pushing start times back won’t change a thing.

Perhaps students shouldn’t stay up on their phones until 2am. I can’t tell you how many emails I get sent at 1:30am and 3am.


FFS. Stop. An hour and a half would undoubtedly make a difference, even if not ALL of the students would be bright eyed and bushy tailed.

We all know you just don’t want to stay later.


I’m the PP. You’re so wrong. I would LOVE to stay later. That would be ideal.

But what’s the point? It won’t make a difference. I speak from actual experience, as a parent AND a teacher.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely a way to have later start times and fit in after school activities! -signed a Pediatrician


+100.

- signed HS teacher. I hate first period because kids are half asleep or come in late. Period 2 onwards is so much better


I’ve worked in high schools with 7:30am start times and 9am start times. 1st period always contains sleepy kids. Pushing start times back won’t change a thing.

Perhaps students shouldn’t stay up on their phones until 2am. I can’t tell you how many emails I get sent at 1:30am and 3am.


FFS. Stop. An hour and a half would undoubtedly make a difference, even if not ALL of the students would be bright eyed and bushy tailed.

We all know you just don’t want to stay later.


Your proposed or supposed benefit to teens is not in fact one. This teacher who has worked in school districts with 9 am start times is telling you this based on their firsthand experience and you’re dismissing it because it counters your predetermined stance?

Give it a rest. Or make a better argument because the one you’re advocating doesn’t hold water for anyone who knows how adolescents really behave.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Decide what time your child needs to get up. Count back 8-9 hours. Enforce bedtime: lights out, cell phones collected.

Done.

It's called parenting.


Either you don’t have teens yet or you are fortunate to have an unusual morning person. You can send your kid to bed but that doesn’t mean they fall asleep. We have tried everything in our house over the last decade include taking phones away, shutting off wifi, melatonin, sleep routines, etc. My teens were unable to fall asleep before 11 or 11:30 but had to be up at 6:30. So yeah that extra 30 minutes does help.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely a way to have later start times and fit in after school activities! -signed a Pediatrician


+100.

- signed HS teacher. I hate first period because kids are half asleep or come in late. Period 2 onwards is so much better


I’ve worked in high schools with 7:30am start times and 9am start times. 1st period always contains sleepy kids. Pushing start times back won’t change a thing.

Perhaps students shouldn’t stay up on their phones until 2am. I can’t tell you how many emails I get sent at 1:30am and 3am.


FFS. Stop. An hour and a half would undoubtedly make a difference, even if not ALL of the students would be bright eyed and bushy tailed.

We all know you just don’t want to stay later.


I’m the PP. You’re so wrong. I would LOVE to stay later. That would be ideal.

But what’s the point? It won’t make a difference. I speak from actual experience, as a parent AND a teacher.


I speak from actual experience as a parent and a scientist. Your blanket “it won’t make a difference” is worth absolutely nothing.

It’s just, like, your opinion, man.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely a way to have later start times and fit in after school activities! -signed a Pediatrician


+100.

- signed HS teacher. I hate first period because kids are half asleep or come in late. Period 2 onwards is so much better


I’ve worked in high schools with 7:30am start times and 9am start times. 1st period always contains sleepy kids. Pushing start times back won’t change a thing.

Perhaps students shouldn’t stay up on their phones until 2am. I can’t tell you how many emails I get sent at 1:30am and 3am.


FFS. Stop. An hour and a half would undoubtedly make a difference, even if not ALL of the students would be bright eyed and bushy tailed.

We all know you just don’t want to stay later.


Your proposed or supposed benefit to teens is not in fact one. This teacher who has worked in school districts with 9 am start times is telling you this based on their firsthand experience and you’re dismissing it because it counters your predetermined stance?

Give it a rest. Or make a better argument because the one you’re advocating doesn’t hold water for anyone who knows how adolescents really behave.


Hilarious! Let’s make decisions for ALL students because Ms. Blatherdoo says SHE knows better than all those idiot sleep researchers, and the know-nothing pediatricians, and all of that pesky scientific research, because when she taught a class at 9:00 some kids were still sleepy!!

I suspect Ms. Blatherdoo is a science teacher based on the appalling scientific illiteracy on display in this thread.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely a way to have later start times and fit in after school activities! -signed a Pediatrician


+100.

- signed HS teacher. I hate first period because kids are half asleep or come in late. Period 2 onwards is so much better


I’ve worked in high schools with 7:30am start times and 9am start times. 1st period always contains sleepy kids. Pushing start times back won’t change a thing.

Perhaps students shouldn’t stay up on their phones until 2am. I can’t tell you how many emails I get sent at 1:30am and 3am.


FFS. Stop. An hour and a half would undoubtedly make a difference, even if not ALL of the students would be bright eyed and bushy tailed.

We all know you just don’t want to stay later.


I’m the PP. You’re so wrong. I would LOVE to stay later. That would be ideal.

But what’s the point? It won’t make a difference. I speak from actual experience, as a parent AND a teacher.


I speak from actual experience as a parent and a scientist. Your blanket “it won’t make a difference” is worth absolutely nothing.

It’s just, like, your opinion, man.


Well, scientist, explain it to us then. How will later times DIRECTLY and CLEARLY translate to more sleep for high school students?

Because, scientist, high schoolers have pesky habits like staying up late texting, watching movies, cramming for tests. Some high schoolers will be attending more 6am practices and rehearsals since there will be less time after school for these events.

So please explain it to those of us on this thread who raise or teach teenagers. How will a later start time guarantee more sleep?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely a way to have later start times and fit in after school activities! -signed a Pediatrician


+100.

- signed HS teacher. I hate first period because kids are half asleep or come in late. Period 2 onwards is so much better


I’ve worked in high schools with 7:30am start times and 9am start times. 1st period always contains sleepy kids. Pushing start times back won’t change a thing.

Perhaps students shouldn’t stay up on their phones until 2am. I can’t tell you how many emails I get sent at 1:30am and 3am.


FFS. Stop. An hour and a half would undoubtedly make a difference, even if not ALL of the students would be bright eyed and bushy tailed.

We all know you just don’t want to stay later.


Your proposed or supposed benefit to teens is not in fact one. This teacher who has worked in school districts with 9 am start times is telling you this based on their firsthand experience and you’re dismissing it because it counters your predetermined stance?

Give it a rest. Or make a better argument because the one you’re advocating doesn’t hold water for anyone who knows how adolescents really behave.


Hilarious! Let’s make decisions for ALL students because Ms. Blatherdoo says SHE knows better than all those idiot sleep researchers, and the know-nothing pediatricians, and all of that pesky scientific research, because when she taught a class at 9:00 some kids were still sleepy!!

I suspect Ms. Blatherdoo is a science teacher based on the appalling scientific illiteracy on display in this thread.


You lose a lot of legitimacy with your silly name calling. Keep in mind there are teachers on this thread. We are used to immaturity and we don’t get offended by it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely a way to have later start times and fit in after school activities! -signed a Pediatrician


+100.

- signed HS teacher. I hate first period because kids are half asleep or come in late. Period 2 onwards is so much better


Please tell us how you can fit in activities, homework, shower and dinner with a later start time?


DP but all of that stuff you’re talking about falls under “parenting decisions”. The school should not give a crap about whether Larla has time for violin, a five course dinner, and an hour long bubble bath every night. The fact is that the schools start too early for teens and it is unhealthy. They should change the start time for the health of the kids, and the rest of the time management is up you, mom.




Don't mess with my snowflake's bubble bath time!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely a way to have later start times and fit in after school activities! -signed a Pediatrician


+100.

- signed HS teacher. I hate first period because kids are half asleep or come in late. Period 2 onwards is so much better


I’ve worked in high schools with 7:30am start times and 9am start times. 1st period always contains sleepy kids. Pushing start times back won’t change a thing.

Perhaps students shouldn’t stay up on their phones until 2am. I can’t tell you how many emails I get sent at 1:30am and 3am.


FFS. Stop. An hour and a half would undoubtedly make a difference, even if not ALL of the students would be bright eyed and bushy tailed.

True, but I was hoping the county would make my job easier by parenting for me.

Anonymous
This matter was settled years ago. Yes, all children need sleep but there is no perfect solution. What we have now is the best compromise.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely a way to have later start times and fit in after school activities! -signed a Pediatrician


+100.

- signed HS teacher. I hate first period because kids are half asleep or come in late. Period 2 onwards is so much better


I’ve worked in high schools with 7:30am start times and 9am start times. 1st period always contains sleepy kids. Pushing start times back won’t change a thing.

Perhaps students shouldn’t stay up on their phones until 2am. I can’t tell you how many emails I get sent at 1:30am and 3am.


FFS. Stop. An hour and a half would undoubtedly make a difference, even if not ALL of the students would be bright eyed and bushy tailed.

We all know you just don’t want to stay later.


I’m the PP. You’re so wrong. I would LOVE to stay later. That would be ideal.

But what’s the point? It won’t make a difference. I speak from actual experience, as a parent AND a teacher.


I speak from actual experience as a parent and a scientist. Your blanket “it won’t make a difference” is worth absolutely nothing.

It’s just, like, your opinion, man.


Well, scientist, explain it to us then. How will later times DIRECTLY and CLEARLY translate to more sleep for high school students?

Because, scientist, high schoolers have pesky habits like staying up late texting, watching movies, cramming for tests. Some high schoolers will be attending more 6am practices and rehearsals since there will be less time after school for these events.

So please explain it to those of us on this thread who raise or teach teenagers. How will a later start time guarantee more sleep?


The late-start advocates don’t have an answer to your common sense questions. They’re empty vessels.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely a way to have later start times and fit in after school activities! -signed a Pediatrician


+100.

- signed HS teacher. I hate first period because kids are half asleep or come in late. Period 2 onwards is so much better


I’ve worked in high schools with 7:30am start times and 9am start times. 1st period always contains sleepy kids. Pushing start times back won’t change a thing.

Perhaps students shouldn’t stay up on their phones until 2am. I can’t tell you how many emails I get sent at 1:30am and 3am.


FFS. Stop. An hour and a half would undoubtedly make a difference, even if not ALL of the students would be bright eyed and bushy tailed.

We all know you just don’t want to stay later.


I’m the PP. You’re so wrong. I would LOVE to stay later. That would be ideal.

But what’s the point? It won’t make a difference. I speak from actual experience, as a parent AND a teacher.


I speak from actual experience as a parent and a scientist. Your blanket “it won’t make a difference” is worth absolutely nothing.

It’s just, like, your opinion, man.


Well, scientist, explain it to us then. How will later times DIRECTLY and CLEARLY translate to more sleep for high school students?

Because, scientist, high schoolers have pesky habits like staying up late texting, watching movies, cramming for tests. Some high schoolers will be attending more 6am practices and rehearsals since there will be less time after school for these events.

So please explain it to those of us on this thread who raise or teach teenagers. How will a later start time guarantee more sleep?


They are the parents who rationalize why their kids don't need activities outside school as they would rather a fancy vacation than activities and cannot be bothered to drive their kids.
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