Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME

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Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.

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Jared Golden, the moderate Democratic Congressman who lives in and represents Lewiston, has come out in favor of banning assault weapons for the first time.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's as simple as voting Dems and GOP out. I think there are Dems who also support NRA and pro gun. This is not about the right for gun ownership rather the ability and knowledge to use a gun safely. You'll never be able to magically wipe out (at least not now!) gun ownership - too many out there. And having spent years fighting the gun lobby, I think it hasn't been energy well spent. To rid guns from the street is a pipe dream.

BUT we can look at who gets the guns, track them and put a process by which they have to legally follow in order to continue to own them. I may not be able to take away the right for someone who suggests they have a right to own in this country, but I can make them follow specific processes to try to promote public safety and abilities to use them the wrong way. There's more than 1 way to skin a cat so to speak

I’m not sure if you’re responding to me (13:35) but I may not have been clear. We will make no progress, on any aspect of this, as long as the GOP has enough power to block legislation at the state and federal level. They will allow no laws about tracking, public safety, mental health, nothing.

I come from a hunting family. I don’t give a rat’s if people own hunting rifles (but if you invited my kids over, I want to know they’re in a safe). But people who insist on an arsenal of guns that require no aiming, that can tear humans apart and make pink slime of little children’s bodies, that essentially have endless ammo - this is not acceptable. This is not fun. This is unsafe. It is tearing America apart and I believe that’s what the GOP wants.


“Require no aiming.”

Don’t know much about firearms, do you?


DP. That was easily understood. The AR-15 is a popular gun because it is easy to use, fun, and almost point-and-shoot. Aiming in the general direction is good enough.


You haven’t got the slightest idea what you’re blithering about. “Point and shoot?” “General direction?” An AR15 is a rifle. It shoots an approximately 22 caliber bullet. A good example can shoot into an inch at 100 yards if properly handled by a competent marksman. The more average performance with an average shooter and average rifle would be 4-6 inches at 100 yards. These results require close, careful sight alignment, breath control, trigger control, recoil control, consistent head position on the stock, a stable shooting platform, etc. Point and shoot will result in random, if any, hits. General direction shooting the same. Myths and ignorance notwithstanding, there is a lot more space around targets than on them. Sportsmen spend years perfecting their skills and thousands of dollars on customized firearms and sights to shrink their shot groups and win competitions.



The people using it to kill other people are not shooting 100 yards. In a classroom, they are point and shoot.


Why don’t you go out to a rifle range and try that theory out? And if you are correct, which you aren’t, the AR15 is functionally indistinguishable from numerous other firearms, and even less distinguishable in terms of point blank fish in a barrel “accuracy.”

Hey gun nut. There’s a reason your fellow “responsible gun owner” mass shooter last night selected the gun he did. Point and spray your victims.


Quickly ignoring the police shooting ratio number of bullet to hit

Yes, colorless green ideas sleep furiously, indeed.
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Nice try. Let's take a look at the shooter's social media activity before the shooting, shall we?

In the event you can't access the info, he was frequenting twitter accounts of Jim Jordan, End Wokeness, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk -



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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.


Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.
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Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Let's take a look at the shooter's social media activity before the shooting, shall we?

In the event you can't access the info, he was frequenting twitter accounts of Jim Jordan, End Wokeness, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk -




Another tragedy Gym Jordan did nothing to prevent.
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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.


Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.


I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.
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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.


Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.


I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.

He wasn't in Congress for Sandy Hook. Maine is big gun country and this is a BFD if he's changed his tune. Americans are sick and tired of this!
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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.


Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.


I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.


Have no idea of political climate of his district but let's hope he doesn't lose it to an R.

Meanwhile, Susan Collins still not calling for assault weapons ban. Said something about ammunition, which is a beginning, but we also know from experience her words mean nothing.
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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.


Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.


I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.

He wasn't in Congress for Sandy Hook. Maine is big gun country and this is a BFD if he's changed his tune. Americans are sick and tired of this!


This is PP - I live in Maine. I’m living this event. He was alive during Sandy Hook and that should have been enough for him, and everyone, to come out against assault weapons. But yes, it’s a big deal to change his tune, and again, he could be voted out due to it if enough people aren’t as deeply impacted as Jared is.
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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.


Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.


I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.

He wasn't in Congress for Sandy Hook. Maine is big gun country and this is a BFD if he's changed his tune. Americans are sick and tired of this!


This is PP - I live in Maine. I’m living this event. He was alive during Sandy Hook and that should have been enough for him, and everyone, to come out against assault weapons. But yes, it’s a big deal to change his tune, and again, he could be voted out due to it if enough people aren’t as deeply impacted as Jared is.


I am a military spouse and disturbed that this guy was hearing voices, having psychotic breaks etc. and .... going about his day? Have they determined why he was not receiving treatment through the military, and why he had access to an assault weapon? Was it acquired illegally? This sounds like a fail on so many levels. And I abhor the loss of life. So much sad news.
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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.


Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.


I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.

He wasn't in Congress for Sandy Hook. Maine is big gun country and this is a BFD if he's changed his tune. Americans are sick and tired of this!


This is PP - I live in Maine. I’m living this event. He was alive during Sandy Hook and that should have been enough for him, and everyone, to come out against assault weapons. But yes, it’s a big deal to change his tune, and again, he could be voted out due to it if enough people aren’t as deeply impacted as Jared is.


I am a military spouse and disturbed that this guy was hearing voices, having psychotic breaks etc. and .... going about his day? Have they determined why he was not receiving treatment through the military, and why he had access to an assault weapon? Was it acquired illegally? This sounds like a fail on so many levels. And I abhor the loss of life. So much sad news.


Massive fail. I hope changes are swift and significant. Believe he bought the gun legally. And he has been receiving treatment, though I don’t think we know whether military care has played a role.
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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.


Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.


I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.

He wasn't in Congress for Sandy Hook. Maine is big gun country and this is a BFD if he's changed his tune. Americans are sick and tired of this!


This is PP - I live in Maine. I’m living this event. He was alive during Sandy Hook and that should have been enough for him, and everyone, to come out against assault weapons. But yes, it’s a big deal to change his tune, and again, he could be voted out due to it if enough people aren’t as deeply impacted as Jared is.


I am a military spouse and disturbed that this guy was hearing voices, having psychotic breaks etc. and .... going about his day? Have they determined why he was not receiving treatment through the military, and why he had access to an assault weapon? Was it acquired illegally? This sounds like a fail on so many levels. And I abhor the loss of life. So much sad news.


Idiot: Access? How about walking into a gun store. Acquired illegally? Why? AR-15s are perfectly legal.

After all, who are we to say a mass shooter can't have the gun of his choice?

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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.


Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.


I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.


DP: Yeah, but this is what has to happen in order for things to change. Lots and lots of people will have to be brave enough to publicly “figure it out” and change their stance. And deal with the fallout— which might be severe.


You’re so right. Maybe “thoughts and prayers” can be harnessed to bring about that bravery in droves.
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Anonymous wrote:Jared Golden, the moderate Democratic Congressman who lives in and represents Lewiston, has come out in favor of banning assault weapons for the first time.


I’m glad he’s revising his position. But I went to a fundraiser for him just a few days after Uvalde and he was not willing to change his position then. I’m in Maine, I get to be elected as a Dem in the 2nd district you need to be more like a Repub, but it disheartens me that he couldn’t see a justification for this until it hit his hometown.
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