Supreme Court Is Asked to Hear a New Admissions Case on Race

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The various ways in which FCPS takes its Asian students for granted are disgusting.

- tries to limit their enrollment at TJ

- withholds certificates from commended students

- excludes Asian kids from outreach programs

- leaves heavily Asian schools overcrowded while expanding schools with few Asian kids

Vote for all Democrats this fall for SB and it will be more of the same.

Asians Americans got rid of the blackface Northam and his useful idiots. FCPS board nitwits are next.

We will vote off every liberal from now on.

LOLZ you honestly think the tiki torch crowd is on your side?

Lol. Where have you been? The conservative Supreme Court has recently ruled that race-based affirmative action programs in college admissions processes violate the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The various ways in which FCPS takes its Asian students for granted are disgusting.

- tries to limit their enrollment at TJ

- withholds certificates from commended students

- excludes Asian kids from outreach programs

- leaves heavily Asian schools overcrowded while expanding schools with few Asian kids

Vote for all Democrats this fall for SB and it will be more of the same.

Supported by facts:
Racial Composisiton of Admitted TJHSST Classes (Percent)
2020 (Before Reform)[2] 2021 (After Reform)[3]
Asian 73.0 54.36
White 17.7 22.36
Black ≤2.1[a] 7.09
Hispanic 3.3 11.27
Multiracial/Other 6.0 4.91

Only, one race got suppressed!

Asians were not suppressed by the new admissions process. They continued to be admitted at a rate slightly higher than their percentage of the applicant pool. Indeed, the new admissions process resulted in a distribution of offers that fairly closely mirrored the pool of applicants, meaning for the first time in its history, the TJ admissions process can be considered race-neutral.

The prior admissions process manifestly suppressed the admission rates of Black and Hispanic students, and to a lesser but still significant extent, white students. The delta between the numbers in 2024 and 2025, when viewed through a lens of statistical significance, are attributable with a very high level of confidence to the disparate impact of the old admissions process.

Asian American strength at TJ grew organically from 19% in 1985 to 73% in 2020, in gradual increments of approximately 1.54% per year over the 35 year period. In one single year, 2020, the Asian American strength was forced down by 18% from 73% back to 54.36%. And there was no deliberate racial balancing effort that took place?

That's a different question. There was certainly a deliberate effort to remove obstacles for low-income families, which had an impact on the racial balance of the class because in Northern Virginia, race and socioeconomic status track together fairly nearly.

It cannot be the case that an effort to eliminate racial or socioeconomic discrimination, however unintentional it may have been, is illegal. Otherwise any pre-existing systemic discrimination becomes institutionalized, and the low-income Asian students who were the greatest beneficiaries of the new admissions process get shut out of opportunities that they richly deserve.

So, to admit 1 low-income Asian student, illegally eliminate potentially 4 middle class Asian students from TJ. That is racial engineering.

Racial engineering has been occurring for decades at schools like Carson, Cooper, and Longfellow that continue to be White and Asian enclaves and are prohibitive to Hispanic and Black families (<20%). That's real racial engineering in action. The percentages don't lie. TJ is 65% Asian, so it's absurd to claim there is racial engineering against Asians. I would believe you if TJ was forced to be 10% Asian.

You can twist into pretzels all you want but the bottom line was that the change was implemented to reduce the Asian students at TJ so illegal and immoral.

Indeed, these treacherous progressive people are hopeless and shamefuless. We need to vote every single one off in November.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The various ways in which FCPS takes its Asian students for granted are disgusting.

- tries to limit their enrollment at TJ

- withholds certificates from commended students

- excludes Asian kids from outreach programs

- leaves heavily Asian schools overcrowded while expanding schools with few Asian kids

Vote for all Democrats this fall for SB and it will be more of the same.

Supported by facts:
Racial Composisiton of Admitted TJHSST Classes (Percent)
2020 (Before Reform)[2] 2021 (After Reform)[3]
Asian 73.0 54.36
White 17.7 22.36
Black ≤2.1[a] 7.09
Hispanic 3.3 11.27
Multiracial/Other 6.0 4.91

Only, one race got suppressed!

Asians were not suppressed by the new admissions process. They continued to be admitted at a rate slightly higher than their percentage of the applicant pool. Indeed, the new admissions process resulted in a distribution of offers that fairly closely mirrored the pool of applicants, meaning for the first time in its history, the TJ admissions process can be considered race-neutral.

The prior admissions process manifestly suppressed the admission rates of Black and Hispanic students, and to a lesser but still significant extent, white students. The delta between the numbers in 2024 and 2025, when viewed through a lens of statistical significance, are attributable with a very high level of confidence to the disparate impact of the old admissions process.

Asian American strength at TJ grew organically from 19% in 1985 to 73% in 2020, in gradual increments of approximately 1.54% per year over the 35 year period. In one single year, 2020, the Asian American strength was forced down by 18% from 73% back to 54.36%. And there was no deliberate racial balancing effort that took place?

Of course deliberate racial balancing efforts took place, with racial suppression as the target. That is the specific reason Supreme Court is being asked to hear this case. Read this:
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One particularly damning text exchange between board members Abrar Omeish and Stella Pekarsky left no doubt that they understood the TJ admissions change would be an attack on Asian American students:

Pekarsky: “It will whiten our schools and kick [out] our Asians. How is that achieving the goals of diversity?”

Omeish: “I mean there has been an anti asian feel underlying some of this, hate to say it lol.”

"
https://thehill.com/opinion/education/589870-the-parents-were-right-documents-show-discrimination-against-asian-american/

Wonder why these two board members chose to text instead of voice call. Likely on unlimited text plan

who knows why they texted instead of call or what phone plan they were on. But this summarizes it all:

"The documents show what TJ parents believed: The new admissions process was meant to target Asian American students, and school board members knew what they were doing. Yet they voted unanimously in favor of eliminating merit-based, race-blind admissions tests. That is not just wrong — it’s illegal. The Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause is a promise that our government, including public schools such as TJ, will treat all citizens as individuals and not members of a racial group."

As a PP explained this text was in reference to a change that never happened so not sure it's pertinent to anything.

Whether or not the lottery happened doesn't change the goals and conversations behind it. They wanted to change the racial demographics of the school.

If a murderer thought about using a gun but later switched to a knife, we don't point to the lack of a gun to declare the murder innocent. The intentions were clear.

"The new admissions process was meant to target Asian American students, and school board members knew what they were doing."

Take away fron FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We dont want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middleschool. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The various ways in which FCPS takes its Asian students for granted are disgusting.

- tries to limit their enrollment at TJ

- withholds certificates from commended students

- excludes Asian kids from outreach programs

- leaves heavily Asian schools overcrowded while expanding schools with few Asian kids

Vote for all Democrats this fall for SB and it will be more of the same.

Supported by facts:
Racial Composisiton of Admitted TJHSST Classes (Percent)
2020 (Before Reform)[2] 2021 (After Reform)[3]
Asian 73.0 54.36
White 17.7 22.36
Black ≤2.1[a] 7.09
Hispanic 3.3 11.27
Multiracial/Other 6.0 4.91

Only, one race got suppressed!

Asians were not suppressed by the new admissions process. They continued to be admitted at a rate slightly higher than their percentage of the applicant pool. Indeed, the new admissions process resulted in a distribution of offers that fairly closely mirrored the pool of applicants, meaning for the first time in its history, the TJ admissions process can be considered race-neutral.

The prior admissions process manifestly suppressed the admission rates of Black and Hispanic students, and to a lesser but still significant extent, white students. The delta between the numbers in 2024 and 2025, when viewed through a lens of statistical significance, are attributable with a very high level of confidence to the disparate impact of the old admissions process.

Asian American strength at TJ grew organically from 19% in 1985 to 73% in 2020, in gradual increments of approximately 1.54% per year over the 35 year period. In one single year, 2020, the Asian American strength was forced down by 18% from 73% back to 54.36%. And there was no deliberate racial balancing effort that took place?

Of course deliberate racial balancing efforts took place, with racial suppression as the target. That is the specific reason Supreme Court is being asked to hear this case. Read this:
"
One particularly damning text exchange between board members Abrar Omeish and Stella Pekarsky left no doubt that they understood the TJ admissions change would be an attack on Asian American students:

Pekarsky: “It will whiten our schools and kick [out] our Asians. How is that achieving the goals of diversity?”

Omeish: “I mean there has been an anti asian feel underlying some of this, hate to say it lol.”

"
https://thehill.com/opinion/education/589870-the-parents-were-right-documents-show-discrimination-against-asian-american/

Wonder why these two board members chose to text instead of voice call. Likely on unlimited text plan

who knows why they texted instead of call or what phone plan they were on. But this summarizes it all:

"The documents show what TJ parents believed: The new admissions process was meant to target Asian American students, and school board members knew what they were doing. Yet they voted unanimously in favor of eliminating merit-based, race-blind admissions tests. That is not just wrong — it’s illegal. The Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause is a promise that our government, including public schools such as TJ, will treat all citizens as individuals and not members of a racial group."

As a PP explained this text was in reference to a change that never happened so not sure it's pertinent to anything.

Whether or not the lottery happened doesn't change the goals and conversations behind it. They wanted to change the racial demographics of the school.

If a murderer thought about using a gun but later switched to a knife, we don't point to the lack of a gun to declare the murder innocent. The intentions were clear.

"The new admissions process was meant to target Asian American students, and school board members knew what they were doing."

Take away fron FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We dont want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middleschool. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."

Or, you could look at the new admissions process, which is quite different from your description.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The various ways in which FCPS takes its Asian students for granted are disgusting.

- tries to limit their enrollment at TJ

- withholds certificates from commended students

- excludes Asian kids from outreach programs

- leaves heavily Asian schools overcrowded while expanding schools with few Asian kids

Vote for all Democrats this fall for SB and it will be more of the same.

Supported by facts:
Racial Composisiton of Admitted TJHSST Classes (Percent)
2020 (Before Reform)[2] 2021 (After Reform)[3]
Asian 73.0 54.36
White 17.7 22.36
Black ≤2.1[a] 7.09
Hispanic 3.3 11.27
Multiracial/Other 6.0 4.91

Only, one race got suppressed!

Asians were not suppressed by the new admissions process. They continued to be admitted at a rate slightly higher than their percentage of the applicant pool. Indeed, the new admissions process resulted in a distribution of offers that fairly closely mirrored the pool of applicants, meaning for the first time in its history, the TJ admissions process can be considered race-neutral.

The prior admissions process manifestly suppressed the admission rates of Black and Hispanic students, and to a lesser but still significant extent, white students. The delta between the numbers in 2024 and 2025, when viewed through a lens of statistical significance, are attributable with a very high level of confidence to the disparate impact of the old admissions process.

Asian American strength at TJ grew organically from 19% in 1985 to 73% in 2020, in gradual increments of approximately 1.54% per year over the 35 year period. In one single year, 2020, the Asian American strength was forced down by 18% from 73% back to 54.36%. And there was no deliberate racial balancing effort that took place?

That's a different question. There was certainly a deliberate effort to remove obstacles for low-income families, which had an impact on the racial balance of the class because in Northern Virginia, race and socioeconomic status track together fairly nearly.

It cannot be the case that an effort to eliminate racial or socioeconomic discrimination, however unintentional it may have been, is illegal. Otherwise any pre-existing systemic discrimination becomes institutionalized, and the low-income Asian students who were the greatest beneficiaries of the new admissions process get shut out of opportunities that they richly deserve.

So, to admit 1 low-income Asian student, illegally eliminate potentially 4 middle class Asian students from TJ. That is racial engineering.

with new admission, middle income as well as low-income Asian students are subject to racial quota limit. As the texts show, the evil board's goal was to bring down the overall asian student strength from 73% to 54.36%, and that's what was accomplished. If the intention was to do outreach and bring-in additional low-income asian students, the asian american representation would have gone over 73%, not below. There was no outreach effort targeting low-income asian students in the past, present, or any planned for future. The evil eyes had one target and one focus, reduce the Asian student strength.

Literally every assertion in this post is false and outside of the bounds of logic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The various ways in which FCPS takes its Asian students for granted are disgusting.

- tries to limit their enrollment at TJ

- withholds certificates from commended students

- excludes Asian kids from outreach programs

- leaves heavily Asian schools overcrowded while expanding schools with few Asian kids

Vote for all Democrats this fall for SB and it will be more of the same.

Asians Americans got rid of the blackface Northam and his useful idiots. FCPS board nitwits are next.

We will vote off every liberal from now on.

LOLZ you honestly think the tiki torch crowd is on your side?

Lol. Where have you been? The conservative Supreme Court has recently ruled that race-based affirmative action programs in college admissions processes violate the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

It’s a good thing that this is not a college admissions process and that it’s race-blind.

[Anonymous]

The conservatives need to find much smarter people to go on these boards and make their arguments for them. What they’re sending right now makes their cause look uneducated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People in this forum just don't understand admitting unqualified URM students is harmful to TJ and our future.

Admitting unqualified students of any race would be harmful to TJ. Thankfully, that’s not happening to any greater extent than it was previously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People in this forum just don't understand admitting unqualified URM students is harmful to TJ and our future.

Admitting unqualified students of any race would be harmful to TJ. Thankfully, that’s not happening to any greater extent than it was previously.

Agree with you. The new process is sending a greater extent of unqualified students to TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The various ways in which FCPS takes its Asian students for granted are disgusting.

- tries to limit their enrollment at TJ

- withholds certificates from commended students

- excludes Asian kids from outreach programs

- leaves heavily Asian schools overcrowded while expanding schools with few Asian kids

Vote for all Democrats this fall for SB and it will be more of the same.

Supported by facts:
Racial Composisiton of Admitted TJHSST Classes (Percent)
2020 (Before Reform)[2] 2021 (After Reform)[3]
Asian 73.0 54.36
White 17.7 22.36
Black ≤2.1[a] 7.09
Hispanic 3.3 11.27
Multiracial/Other 6.0 4.91

Only, one race got suppressed!

Asians were not suppressed by the new admissions process. They continued to be admitted at a rate slightly higher than their percentage of the applicant pool. Indeed, the new admissions process resulted in a distribution of offers that fairly closely mirrored the pool of applicants, meaning for the first time in its history, the TJ admissions process can be considered race-neutral.

The prior admissions process manifestly suppressed the admission rates of Black and Hispanic students, and to a lesser but still significant extent, white students. The delta between the numbers in 2024 and 2025, when viewed through a lens of statistical significance, are attributable with a very high level of confidence to the disparate impact of the old admissions process.

Asian American strength at TJ grew organically from 19% in 1985 to 73% in 2020, in gradual increments of approximately 1.54% per year over the 35 year period. In one single year, 2020, the Asian American strength was forced down by 18% from 73% back to 54.36%. And there was no deliberate racial balancing effort that took place?

That's a different question. There was certainly a deliberate effort to remove obstacles for low-income families, which had an impact on the racial balance of the class because in Northern Virginia, race and socioeconomic status track together fairly nearly.

It cannot be the case that an effort to eliminate racial or socioeconomic discrimination, however unintentional it may have been, is illegal. Otherwise any pre-existing systemic discrimination becomes institutionalized, and the low-income Asian students who were the greatest beneficiaries of the new admissions process get shut out of opportunities that they richly deserve.

So, to admit 1 low-income Asian student, illegally eliminate potentially 4 middle class Asian students from TJ. That is racial engineering.

with new admission, middle income as well as low-income Asian students are subject to racial quota limit. As the texts show, the evil board's goal was to bring down the overall asian student strength from 73% to 54.36%, and that's what was accomplished. If the intention was to do outreach and bring-in additional low-income asian students, the asian american representation would have gone over 73%, not below. There was no outreach effort targeting low-income asian students in the past, present, or any planned for future. The evil eyes had one target and one focus, reduce the Asian student strength.

Literally every assertion in this post is true .

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People in this forum just don't understand admitting unqualified URM students is harmful to TJ and our future.

Admitting unqualified students of any race would be harmful to TJ. Thankfully, that’s happening to greater extent than it was previously.

+100 Finally we are all on the same page. The Board went after the Asian suppression, and any racial suppression cannot be allowed to be an acceptable precedent for future generation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People in this forum just don't understand admitting unqualified URM students is harmful to TJ and our future.

Admitting unqualified students of any race would be harmful to TJ. Thankfully, that’s not happening to any greater extent than it was previously.

Agree with you. The new process is sending a greater extent of unqualified students to TJ.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People in this forum just don't understand admitting unqualified URM students is harmful to TJ and our future.

Admitting unqualified students of any race would be harmful to TJ. Thankfully, that’s not happening to any greater extent than it was previously.

Agree with you. The new process is sending a greater extent of unqualified students to TJ.

You're gonna need to show your work on that one. Haven't seen any evidence of it.

People will cite the larger number of students entering in TJ Math 1, but those students are not "unqualified". They're simply less advanced.

People will also cite the offerings of in-school assistance for catch-up last year and the year before, but those are there to address learning loss from COVID and in many cases the students' lack of access to the same outside-of-school tutoring options as their wealthy predecessors. It's no accident that Curie has numerous courses that line up perfectly with the TJ Math curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People in this forum just don't understand admitting unqualified URM students is harmful to TJ and our future.

Admitting unqualified students of any race would be harmful to TJ. Thankfully, that’s happening to greater extent than it was previously.

+100 Finally we are all on the same page. The Board went after the Asian suppression, and any racial suppression cannot be allowed to be an acceptable precedent for future generation.

Ah - so we've discovered how to edit within a quote to make it appear like you're responding to someone who agrees with you!

Deceptive and disingenuous, but we've come to expect nothing less from the new Jim Crow - the Coalition 4 TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The conservatives need to find much smarter people to go on these boards and make their arguments for them. What they’re sending right now makes their cause look uneducated.

+1

Irrational and innumerate.