MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

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Anonymous wrote:Depends - if they have an iep? I’d tell them that most of the services are delivered by the general Ed teacher because inclusion spec Ed teachers are stretched too thin and we spend so much time on paperwork and not with kids. I’d also tell them no matter what they “advocate for” in the iep, it doesn’t actually happen during the school day due to limited resources and time so half the time we just agree to make you go away


We know. Thanks for being a failure in your life's work.


Likewise for being a failure at actual life. (Lack of empathy is the first sign of being a psychopath)



"I decided to use an anonymous forum to taunt distraught parents of special needs kids in a blasé manner about how we fail their children. But you're the psychopath! Poor me!"
PP


Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is so much easier.

The thread is what we would tell parents if we could. I appreciated that teachers transparency and didn't read it as a taunt. You're clearly dissatisfied with your child's service, but you're lashing out to someone who is telling you there is literally nothing they can do to solve your problem.


I’m the one who posted about spec Ed. Not a taunt just the hard truth. And I’m not a failure at my job, I’m actually a really good spec Ed teacher and I advocate hard for the kids on my caseload. But these are the truths of the conditions in mcps and that’s what the thread asked about. Sometimes I wish parents knew so they didn’t believe the BS . That being said, parents should not be angry at the teachers - it’s the system and lack of appropriate resources


If you really wanted parents to know, why not tell them instead of lying to them to get them to “go away”? I don’t get it. That’s something that is absolutely in your power to do, and doesn’t even take a lot of effort.


And get fired ? Or written up by my boss/ supervisor for telling you that? No way


People outside teaching have no idea what pressures teachers face. No idea at all. I wish it were as simple as the PPs suggest re: just talking to parents.



Please, you have a job for life. It's almost impossible to get fired.
The union has captured the Democratic Party.


I see you didn’t actually address the point:
You have NO IDEA what teachers face. I had a prospective teacher shadow me for two days. He left saying he had no idea that’s what a teacher’s day is actually like. He then went back to school and joined another profession.

Shadow for two days. It’ll open your eyes.



Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is a joke compared to the stress and lack of job security in a high level corporate job or Big Law.
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Anonymous wrote:Depends - if they have an iep? I’d tell them that most of the services are delivered by the general Ed teacher because inclusion spec Ed teachers are stretched too thin and we spend so much time on paperwork and not with kids. I’d also tell them no matter what they “advocate for” in the iep, it doesn’t actually happen during the school day due to limited resources and time so half the time we just agree to make you go away


We know. Thanks for being a failure in your life's work.


Likewise for being a failure at actual life. (Lack of empathy is the first sign of being a psychopath)



"I decided to use an anonymous forum to taunt distraught parents of special needs kids in a blasé manner about how we fail their children. But you're the psychopath! Poor me!"
PP


Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is so much easier.

The thread is what we would tell parents if we could. I appreciated that teachers transparency and didn't read it as a taunt. You're clearly dissatisfied with your child's service, but you're lashing out to someone who is telling you there is literally nothing they can do to solve your problem.


I’m the one who posted about spec Ed. Not a taunt just the hard truth. And I’m not a failure at my job, I’m actually a really good spec Ed teacher and I advocate hard for the kids on my caseload. But these are the truths of the conditions in mcps and that’s what the thread asked about. Sometimes I wish parents knew so they didn’t believe the BS . That being said, parents should not be angry at the teachers - it’s the system and lack of appropriate resources


If you really wanted parents to know, why not tell them instead of lying to them to get them to “go away”? I don’t get it. That’s something that is absolutely in your power to do, and doesn’t even take a lot of effort.


And get fired ? Or written up by my boss/ supervisor for telling you that? No way


People outside teaching have no idea what pressures teachers face. No idea at all. I wish it were as simple as the PPs suggest re: just talking to parents.



Please, you have a job for life. It's almost impossible to get fired.
The union has captured the Democratic Party.


I see you didn’t actually address the point:
You have NO IDEA what teachers face. I had a prospective teacher shadow me for two days. He left saying he had no idea that’s what a teacher’s day is actually like. He then went back to school and joined another profession.

Shadow for two days. It’ll open your eyes.



Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is a joke compared to the stress and lack of job security in a high level corporate job or Big Law.


It’s not really comparably when those jobs pay 5-10 times more and you can afford to outsource.
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Anonymous wrote:Yep. You don’t want your kid to be in a district without a strong union. Why? Unions fight for the best wages which attracts the best teachers. Also, unions have good contracts so teachers aren’t forced to sub for colleagues during their planning period. Those two reasons alone are why you should want to be in a district with a strong union.


The unions in MOCO, both mcps and county don’t protect its workers.
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Anonymous wrote:If you value an “A” more than your child’s moral integrity, as well as emotional, and physical well-being, you are a bad parent. If you refuse to hold your child accountable for their actions, or stymie teachers trying to hold your child accountable for their actions; or if you enable your child to lie and cheat to get ahead, you are also a bad parent whose child will grow up to be a liar and a cheater, or worse.

Also, before you call or email your child’s teacher, take your child’s phone and put it in the garbage disposal. There. You’ve fixed the problem and saved everyone (except the plumber) a lot of grief.


The phone is not the issue. Even if there were no phones, there would be plenty of things to replace it. Ironically some teachers expect kids to have phones and use them for class.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's talk about the teacher's union and all of the roadblocks to learning they have created.
Discuss how teachers and their union did everything they could to see schools closed during covid. Schools stayed one in much of Europe.


Horrible churn in school systems in states where public school teachers can’t unionize. My cousin just moved to Maryland because her three ES kids had subs all year the last couple years due to teachers quitting.


We had year long subs or a series of them before Covid, nothing new. That’s why you need to supplement at home.
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Anonymous wrote:Depends - if they have an iep? I’d tell them that most of the services are delivered by the general Ed teacher because inclusion spec Ed teachers are stretched too thin and we spend so much time on paperwork and not with kids. I’d also tell them no matter what they “advocate for” in the iep, it doesn’t actually happen during the school day due to limited resources and time so half the time we just agree to make you go away


We know. Thanks for being a failure in your life's work.


Likewise for being a failure at actual life. (Lack of empathy is the first sign of being a psychopath)



"I decided to use an anonymous forum to taunt distraught parents of special needs kids in a blasé manner about how we fail their children. But you're the psychopath! Poor me!"
PP


Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is so much easier.

The thread is what we would tell parents if we could. I appreciated that teachers transparency and didn't read it as a taunt. You're clearly dissatisfied with your child's service, but you're lashing out to someone who is telling you there is literally nothing they can do to solve your problem.


I’m the one who posted about spec Ed. Not a taunt just the hard truth. And I’m not a failure at my job, I’m actually a really good spec Ed teacher and I advocate hard for the kids on my caseload. But these are the truths of the conditions in mcps and that’s what the thread asked about. Sometimes I wish parents knew so they didn’t believe the BS . That being said, parents should not be angry at the teachers - it’s the system and lack of appropriate resources


If you really wanted parents to know, why not tell them instead of lying to them to get them to “go away”? I don’t get it. That’s something that is absolutely in your power to do, and doesn’t even take a lot of effort.


And get fired ? Or written up by my boss/ supervisor for telling you that? No way


People outside teaching have no idea what pressures teachers face. No idea at all. I wish it were as simple as the PPs suggest re: just talking to parents.



Please, you have a job for life. It's almost impossible to get fired.
The union has captured the Democratic Party.


I see you didn’t actually address the point:
You have NO IDEA what teachers face. I had a prospective teacher shadow me for two days. He left saying he had no idea that’s what a teacher’s day is actually like. He then went back to school and joined another profession.

Shadow for two days. It’ll open your eyes.



Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is a joke compared to the stress and lack of job security in a high level corporate job or Big Law.


It’s not really comparably when those jobs pay 5-10 times more and you can afford to outsource.


Teacher here who switched from corporate life. Not only did I get paid more, I was also able to pee when I wanted to AND I got more than 8 minutes for lunch. (I got closer to 2 hours, actually.) I was also able to take an hour off to go to an appointment without spending 3 hours preparing for my absence. If I needed a quiet day, I could shut my office door and choose to avoid people. Oh… and I didn’t bring any work home.

I believe some corporate jobs are harder. I know many aren’t.
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Anonymous wrote:.... you are required to make sure the student is looking at you before you deliver instruction, check for understanding with that student before moving on, then write the directions on the board, etc. The other students have to wait even if they all can go at a faster pace because you have to spend so much time redirecting the student. Then you have to mark down on a paper every few minutes if the student is on task. Then check in with the student after they have begun to work, allow the student to give verbal answers instead of writing them down if the student chooses, provide alternative assignments if it is too difficult, etc....

Is this typical of an iep, or is this an especially unusual case?


This is unusual but some iep students can suck up a lot of time.


Yes, some kids with IEPs require a lot more attention for various reasons. But don't put this on the kid in a "suck up a lot of time" kind of way. It shows such disdain for them. It's not their fault. It goes back to the system. It's not set up to help them. Sometimes in my experience the parents or the school team push for a less supported class, and the kid needs even more help to get by. But the kid didn't ask to be put in the situation.


It’s not the kids fault they have special needs. It’s part of the job. Many of us have our kids in countless hours of private therapies but we still need school support and help.
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Anonymous wrote:Depends - if they have an iep? I’d tell them that most of the services are delivered by the general Ed teacher because inclusion spec Ed teachers are stretched too thin and we spend so much time on paperwork and not with kids. I’d also tell them no matter what they “advocate for” in the iep, it doesn’t actually happen during the school day due to limited resources and time so half the time we just agree to make you go away


We know. Thanks for being a failure in your life's work.


Likewise for being a failure at actual life. (Lack of empathy is the first sign of being a psychopath)



"I decided to use an anonymous forum to taunt distraught parents of special needs kids in a blasé manner about how we fail their children. But you're the psychopath! Poor me!"
PP


Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is so much easier.

The thread is what we would tell parents if we could. I appreciated that teachers transparency and didn't read it as a taunt. You're clearly dissatisfied with your child's service, but you're lashing out to someone who is telling you there is literally nothing they can do to solve your problem.


I’m the one who posted about spec Ed. Not a taunt just the hard truth. And I’m not a failure at my job, I’m actually a really good spec Ed teacher and I advocate hard for the kids on my caseload. But these are the truths of the conditions in mcps and that’s what the thread asked about. Sometimes I wish parents knew so they didn’t believe the BS . That being said, parents should not be angry at the teachers - it’s the system and lack of appropriate resources


If you really wanted parents to know, why not tell them instead of lying to them to get them to “go away”? I don’t get it. That’s something that is absolutely in your power to do, and doesn’t even take a lot of effort.


And get fired ? Or written up by my boss/ supervisor for telling you that? No way


People outside teaching have no idea what pressures teachers face. No idea at all. I wish it were as simple as the PPs suggest re: just talking to parents.



Please, you have a job for life. It's almost impossible to get fired.
The union has captured the Democratic Party.


I see you didn’t actually address the point:
You have NO IDEA what teachers face. I had a prospective teacher shadow me for two days. He left saying he had no idea that’s what a teacher’s day is actually like. He then went back to school and joined another profession.

Shadow for two days. It’ll open your eyes.



Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is a joke compared to the stress and lack of job security in a high level corporate job or Big Law.


It’s not really comparably when those jobs pay 5-10 times more and you can afford to outsource.


Teacher here who switched from corporate life. Not only did I get paid more, I was also able to pee when I wanted to AND I got more than 8 minutes for lunch. (I got closer to 2 hours, actually.) I was also able to take an hour off to go to an appointment without spending 3 hours preparing for my absence. If I needed a quiet day, I could shut my office door and choose to avoid people. Oh… and I didn’t bring any work home.

I believe some corporate jobs are harder. I know many aren’t.


Well the days of closing office doors are gone for the majority of people who now sit in cubes. It's impossible to get away from people unless you work at home which is definitely not something teachers can do.

However, there seems to be a disconnect between the staffing shortages and the people writing on a different thread on this board that they've been applying to teach in MCPS for months or longer and nothing happens. Some teachers said that applicants should reach out directly to schools they want to work in. If there is such a demand for certified teachers, they shouldn't need to jump through hoops to get someone's attention. It's not very intuitive.
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Anonymous wrote:Depends - if they have an iep? I’d tell them that most of the services are delivered by the general Ed teacher because inclusion spec Ed teachers are stretched too thin and we spend so much time on paperwork and not with kids. I’d also tell them no matter what they “advocate for” in the iep, it doesn’t actually happen during the school day due to limited resources and time so half the time we just agree to make you go away


We know. Thanks for being a failure in your life's work.


Likewise for being a failure at actual life. (Lack of empathy is the first sign of being a psychopath)



"I decided to use an anonymous forum to taunt distraught parents of special needs kids in a blasé manner about how we fail their children. But you're the psychopath! Poor me!"
PP


Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is so much easier.

The thread is what we would tell parents if we could. I appreciated that teachers transparency and didn't read it as a taunt. You're clearly dissatisfied with your child's service, but you're lashing out to someone who is telling you there is literally nothing they can do to solve your problem.


I’m the one who posted about spec Ed. Not a taunt just the hard truth. And I’m not a failure at my job, I’m actually a really good spec Ed teacher and I advocate hard for the kids on my caseload. But these are the truths of the conditions in mcps and that’s what the thread asked about. Sometimes I wish parents knew so they didn’t believe the BS . That being said, parents should not be angry at the teachers - it’s the system and lack of appropriate resources


If you really wanted parents to know, why not tell them instead of lying to them to get them to “go away”? I don’t get it. That’s something that is absolutely in your power to do, and doesn’t even take a lot of effort.


And get fired ? Or written up by my boss/ supervisor for telling you that? No way


People outside teaching have no idea what pressures teachers face. No idea at all. I wish it were as simple as the PPs suggest re: just talking to parents.



Please, you have a job for life. It's almost impossible to get fired.
The union has captured the Democratic Party.


I see you didn’t actually address the point:
You have NO IDEA what teachers face. I had a prospective teacher shadow me for two days. He left saying he had no idea that’s what a teacher’s day is actually like. He then went back to school and joined another profession.

Shadow for two days. It’ll open your eyes.



Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is a joke compared to the stress and lack of job security in a high level corporate job or Big Law.


It’s not really comparably when those jobs pay 5-10 times more and you can afford to outsource.


Teacher here who switched from corporate life. Not only did I get paid more, I was also able to pee when I wanted to AND I got more than 8 minutes for lunch. (I got closer to 2 hours, actually.) I was also able to take an hour off to go to an appointment without spending 3 hours preparing for my absence. If I needed a quiet day, I could shut my office door and choose to avoid people. Oh… and I didn’t bring any work home.

I believe some corporate jobs are harder. I know many aren’t.


Well the days of closing office doors are gone for the majority of people who now sit in cubes. It's impossible to get away from people unless you work at home which is definitely not something teachers can do.

However, there seems to be a disconnect between the staffing shortages and the people writing on a different thread on this board that they've been applying to teach in MCPS for months or longer and nothing happens. Some teachers said that applicants should reach out directly to schools they want to work in. If there is such a demand for certified teachers, they shouldn't need to jump through hoops to get someone's attention. It's not very intuitive.


Part of the problem (from my perspective) is that counties don’t want to pay for experienced teachers. An amazing teacher with 20 years successful experience costs a ton more than a first year out of college. MCPS won’t even honor experience after 8 years, so teachers moving into the area would have to voluntarily give up a ton of money by taking a lower step on the pay scale in order to work for MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:If you value an “A” more than your child’s moral integrity, as well as emotional, and physical well-being, you are a bad parent. If you refuse to hold your child accountable for their actions, or stymie teachers trying to hold your child accountable for their actions; or if you enable your child to lie and cheat to get ahead, you are also a bad parent whose child will grow up to be a liar and a cheater, or worse.

Also, before you call or email your child’s teacher, take your child’s phone and put it in the garbage disposal. There. You’ve fixed the problem and saved everyone (except the plumber) a lot of grief.


The phone is not the issue. Even if there were no phones, there would be plenty of things to replace it. Ironically some teachers expect kids to have phones and use them for class.



Having the students use the phone in class is an attempt to have them use them for something educational rather than something that disrupts education. While there are a few teachers who will like students to have phones, most would 100% give up the phone.
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I also made the switch from corporate. The massive pay cut aside...they are both stressful in different ways.

The pros of education is that I do feel like a make a difference - not every day but once in a while there's a huge breakthrough where you know you matter in a kids life. In corporate, I enjoyed what I did but I still felt like a cog making money for the man.

The cons of education (compared to corporate) has been being treated like a child and the lack of respect. Sitting on hard benches in meetings, being talked down to, doing ice breakers, and told to brainstorm with a partner you don't know on a topic that is irrelevant to your position. It's insulting. For that lower salary, and disrespect from your "clients" as well as your superiors. The parents like the ones on DCUM don't respect us. In corporate, my clients wanted and appreciated my work. I was recognized with industry awards, sent gifts and thank you notes, recommended to other clients. My corporate office handed me a staples catalog and I was told to submit what I want. This year we were told that the supply budget has been cut and to not count on the supply closet we usually have. My $50 request was denied last year for some books. It's those day to day things that make it far more of a slog than any corporate job.
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I would like to tell parents that sometimes, your kid is not as smart as you think. I want to say that your child needs to be put in a different school that can deal with their needs. I want to say that your kid needs to bathe more often because they stink. We all smell them. I say yes to shut you up. I don’t care if you redo a test, homework assignment or classwork. It has zero to do with me, my job or my pay so take it as many times as you want. I want to say that your husband keeps side messaging me and it’s annoying. I also want to say that your kids tell us everything. We know when you had sex, what you had for dinner, that you don’t like us and we even know about your neighbors because your kid can’t shut up.
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Anonymous wrote:Depends - if they have an iep? I’d tell them that most of the services are delivered by the general Ed teacher because inclusion spec Ed teachers are stretched too thin and we spend so much time on paperwork and not with kids. I’d also tell them no matter what they “advocate for” in the iep, it doesn’t actually happen during the school day due to limited resources and time so half the time we just agree to make you go away


We know. Thanks for being a failure in your life's work.


Likewise for being a failure at actual life. (Lack of empathy is the first sign of being a psychopath)



"I decided to use an anonymous forum to taunt distraught parents of special needs kids in a blasé manner about how we fail their children. But you're the psychopath! Poor me!"
PP


Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is so much easier.

The thread is what we would tell parents if we could. I appreciated that teachers transparency and didn't read it as a taunt. You're clearly dissatisfied with your child's service, but you're lashing out to someone who is telling you there is literally nothing they can do to solve your problem.


I’m the one who posted about spec Ed. Not a taunt just the hard truth. And I’m not a failure at my job, I’m actually a really good spec Ed teacher and I advocate hard for the kids on my caseload. But these are the truths of the conditions in mcps and that’s what the thread asked about. Sometimes I wish parents knew so they didn’t believe the BS . That being said, parents should not be angry at the teachers - it’s the system and lack of appropriate resources


If you really wanted parents to know, why not tell them instead of lying to them to get them to “go away”? I don’t get it. That’s something that is absolutely in your power to do, and doesn’t even take a lot of effort.


And get fired ? Or written up by my boss/ supervisor for telling you that? No way


People outside teaching have no idea what pressures teachers face. No idea at all. I wish it were as simple as the PPs suggest re: just talking to parents.



Please, you have a job for life. It's almost impossible to get fired.
The union has captured the Democratic Party.


I see you didn’t actually address the point:
You have NO IDEA what teachers face. I had a prospective teacher shadow me for two days. He left saying he had no idea that’s what a teacher’s day is actually like. He then went back to school and joined another profession.

Shadow for two days. It’ll open your eyes.



Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is a joke compared to the stress and lack of job security in a high level corporate job or Big Law.


It’s not really comparably when those jobs pay 5-10 times more and you can afford to outsource.


Teacher here who switched from corporate life. Not only did I get paid more, I was also able to pee when I wanted to AND I got more than 8 minutes for lunch. (I got closer to 2 hours, actually.) I was also able to take an hour off to go to an appointment without spending 3 hours preparing for my absence. If I needed a quiet day, I could shut my office door and choose to avoid people. Oh… and I didn’t bring any work home.

I believe some corporate jobs are harder. I know many aren’t.


Well the days of closing office doors are gone for the majority of people who now sit in cubes. It's impossible to get away from people unless you work at home which is definitely not something teachers can do.

However, there seems to be a disconnect between the staffing shortages and the people writing on a different thread on this board that they've been applying to teach in MCPS for months or longer and nothing happens. Some teachers said that applicants should reach out directly to schools they want to work in. If there is such a demand for certified teachers, they shouldn't need to jump through hoops to get someone's attention. It's not very intuitive.


Part of the problem (from my perspective) is that counties don’t want to pay for experienced teachers. An amazing teacher with 20 years successful experience costs a ton more than a first year out of college. MCPS won’t even honor experience after 8 years, so teachers moving into the area would have to voluntarily give up a ton of money by taking a lower step on the pay scale in order to work for MCPS.



Why would pay someone twice as much to do the same job? Some level of increase for experience is fair, but without substantially more responsibilities, it shouldn’t be anywhere near 2x.
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Anonymous wrote:Depends - if they have an iep? I’d tell them that most of the services are delivered by the general Ed teacher because inclusion spec Ed teachers are stretched too thin and we spend so much time on paperwork and not with kids. I’d also tell them no matter what they “advocate for” in the iep, it doesn’t actually happen during the school day due to limited resources and time so half the time we just agree to make you go away


We know. Thanks for being a failure in your life's work.


Likewise for being a failure at actual life. (Lack of empathy is the first sign of being a psychopath)



"I decided to use an anonymous forum to taunt distraught parents of special needs kids in a blasé manner about how we fail their children. But you're the psychopath! Poor me!"
PP


Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is so much easier.

The thread is what we would tell parents if we could. I appreciated that teachers transparency and didn't read it as a taunt. You're clearly dissatisfied with your child's service, but you're lashing out to someone who is telling you there is literally nothing they can do to solve your problem.


I’m the one who posted about spec Ed. Not a taunt just the hard truth. And I’m not a failure at my job, I’m actually a really good spec Ed teacher and I advocate hard for the kids on my caseload. But these are the truths of the conditions in mcps and that’s what the thread asked about. Sometimes I wish parents knew so they didn’t believe the BS . That being said, parents should not be angry at the teachers - it’s the system and lack of appropriate resources


If you really wanted parents to know, why not tell them instead of lying to them to get them to “go away”? I don’t get it. That’s something that is absolutely in your power to do, and doesn’t even take a lot of effort.


And get fired ? Or written up by my boss/ supervisor for telling you that? No way


People outside teaching have no idea what pressures teachers face. No idea at all. I wish it were as simple as the PPs suggest re: just talking to parents.



Please, you have a job for life. It's almost impossible to get fired.
The union has captured the Democratic Party.


I see you didn’t actually address the point:
You have NO IDEA what teachers face. I had a prospective teacher shadow me for two days. He left saying he had no idea that’s what a teacher’s day is actually like. He then went back to school and joined another profession.

Shadow for two days. It’ll open your eyes.



Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is a joke compared to the stress and lack of job security in a high level corporate job or Big Law.


It’s not really comparably when those jobs pay 5-10 times more and you can afford to outsource.


Teacher here who switched from corporate life. Not only did I get paid more, I was also able to pee when I wanted to AND I got more than 8 minutes for lunch. (I got closer to 2 hours, actually.) I was also able to take an hour off to go to an appointment without spending 3 hours preparing for my absence. If I needed a quiet day, I could shut my office door and choose to avoid people. Oh… and I didn’t bring any work home.

I believe some corporate jobs are harder. I know many aren’t.


Everyone wants to make their jobs sound harder and more important than someone else's. Its not comparable but I cannot blame any teacher for leaving and reality is anyone good, especially for HS level classes probably isn't going to want to teach if they are that skilled at what they do.
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Anonymous wrote:Depends - if they have an iep? I’d tell them that most of the services are delivered by the general Ed teacher because inclusion spec Ed teachers are stretched too thin and we spend so much time on paperwork and not with kids. I’d also tell them no matter what they “advocate for” in the iep, it doesn’t actually happen during the school day due to limited resources and time so half the time we just agree to make you go away


We know. Thanks for being a failure in your life's work.


Likewise for being a failure at actual life. (Lack of empathy is the first sign of being a psychopath)



"I decided to use an anonymous forum to taunt distraught parents of special needs kids in a blasé manner about how we fail their children. But you're the psychopath! Poor me!"
PP


Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is so much easier.

The thread is what we would tell parents if we could. I appreciated that teachers transparency and didn't read it as a taunt. You're clearly dissatisfied with your child's service, but you're lashing out to someone who is telling you there is literally nothing they can do to solve your problem.


I’m the one who posted about spec Ed. Not a taunt just the hard truth. And I’m not a failure at my job, I’m actually a really good spec Ed teacher and I advocate hard for the kids on my caseload. But these are the truths of the conditions in mcps and that’s what the thread asked about. Sometimes I wish parents knew so they didn’t believe the BS . That being said, parents should not be angry at the teachers - it’s the system and lack of appropriate resources


If you really wanted parents to know, why not tell them instead of lying to them to get them to “go away”? I don’t get it. That’s something that is absolutely in your power to do, and doesn’t even take a lot of effort.


And get fired ? Or written up by my boss/ supervisor for telling you that? No way


People outside teaching have no idea what pressures teachers face. No idea at all. I wish it were as simple as the PPs suggest re: just talking to parents.



Please, you have a job for life. It's almost impossible to get fired.
The union has captured the Democratic Party.


I see you didn’t actually address the point:
You have NO IDEA what teachers face. I had a prospective teacher shadow me for two days. He left saying he had no idea that’s what a teacher’s day is actually like. He then went back to school and joined another profession.

Shadow for two days. It’ll open your eyes.



Try working in the corporate world. Teaching is a joke compared to the stress and lack of job security in a high level corporate job or Big Law.


It’s not really comparably when those jobs pay 5-10 times more and you can afford to outsource.


Teacher here who switched from corporate life. Not only did I get paid more, I was also able to pee when I wanted to AND I got more than 8 minutes for lunch. (I got closer to 2 hours, actually.) I was also able to take an hour off to go to an appointment without spending 3 hours preparing for my absence. If I needed a quiet day, I could shut my office door and choose to avoid people. Oh… and I didn’t bring any work home.

I believe some corporate jobs are harder. I know many aren’t.


Well the days of closing office doors are gone for the majority of people who now sit in cubes. It's impossible to get away from people unless you work at home which is definitely not something teachers can do.

However, there seems to be a disconnect between the staffing shortages and the people writing on a different thread on this board that they've been applying to teach in MCPS for months or longer and nothing happens. Some teachers said that applicants should reach out directly to schools they want to work in. If there is such a demand for certified teachers, they shouldn't need to jump through hoops to get someone's attention. It's not very intuitive.


Part of the problem (from my perspective) is that counties don’t want to pay for experienced teachers. An amazing teacher with 20 years successful experience costs a ton more than a first year out of college. MCPS won’t even honor experience after 8 years, so teachers moving into the area would have to voluntarily give up a ton of money by taking a lower step on the pay scale in order to work for MCPS.



Why would pay someone twice as much to do the same job? Some level of increase for experience is fair, but without substantially more responsibilities, it shouldn’t be anywhere near 2x.


Why would a transferring teacher accept a salary of 75K when people with the exact experience are making 95K?

MCPS causes part of their staffing problem by failing to respect transferring teachers.

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