Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?

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Anonymous wrote:In state = 13th Grade

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That's what parents/kids say when they don't get in. It's a face-saving technique that's entirely transparent.

What? Plenty of kids who don't get into UVA or UMD can do better than VT/JMU or UMBC oos

dp... yes, but this particular thread is about how going to in state = 13th year.

If you are saying that someone applied to but didn't get into to UVA or UMD (in state), that would still mean they were willing to do the 13th grade.

And if you didn't get into UVA/UMD, and then say it's like "13th grade", then that's just face-saving sour grapes.

THIS ^^

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Anonymous wrote:In state = 13th Grade

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That's what parents/kids say when they don't get in. It's a face-saving technique that's entirely transparent.

What? Plenty of kids who don't get into UVA or UMD can do better than VT/JMU or UMBC oos

dp... yes, but this particular thread is about how going to in state = 13th year.

If you are saying that someone applied to but didn't get into to UVA or UMD (in state), that would still mean they were willing to do the 13th grade.

And if you didn't get into UVA/UMD, and then say it's like "13th grade", then that's just face-saving sour grapes.

I hope my kids leave the state/area for college. But they may prefer the “13th grade” option. It’s just how it is and different people have different preferences.

If you are offended by “13th grade” then you may want to reflect on why.

? I'm not offended by it. IMO, the the ^^PP who called it 13th grade probably did so because their DC got rejected to the flagship.

I'm originally from CA, and we have a very different opinion about going in state (yes, I know why.. CA has a lot more great options). So, even in the DC area, it doesn't bother me that going in state = 13th grade, especially if that in state is the flagship that has an amazing national reputation.

If you weren’t offended then why did you say the PP’s kid probably got rejected?

13th grade is 13th grade. Regardless of where PP’s kids were accepted.

But no one calls it 13th grade anymore. UVA is far too difficult to get into. And if you know someone there, they will tell you that you never see those that they know because of 26,900 students down there. Our private high school sent only two students, the valedictorian and salutatorian- they ever saw each other. Those Eagle Scouts that went from our son’s troop also says they never saw each other and lost contact

The original PP never even said UVA.

Many kids/parents seek out OOS colleges regardless of their ability to get accepted at any particular in-state college.

They want a different experience. That’s ok. It’s just a preference. No need to be offended by other people’s preferences.

go look at the comments above. Riddled with references to UVA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state = 13th Grade

+1

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That's what parents/kids say when they don't get in. It's a face-saving technique that's entirely transparent.

What? Plenty of kids who don't get into UVA or UMD can do better than VT/JMU or UMBC oos

dp... yes, but this particular thread is about how going to in state = 13th year.

If you are saying that someone applied to but didn't get into to UVA or UMD (in state), that would still mean they were willing to do the 13th grade.

And if you didn't get into UVA/UMD, and then say it's like "13th grade", then that's just face-saving sour grapes.

THIS ^^

[b]


I'm a nova dad. Never heard this phrase but, yes, when used here, it's someone with the green-eyed monster whose kid didn't get in

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state = 13th Grade

+1

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That's what parents/kids say when they don't get in. It's a face-saving technique that's entirely transparent.

What? Plenty of kids who don't get into UVA or UMD can do better than VT/JMU or UMBC oos

dp... yes, but this particular thread is about how going to in state = 13th year.

If you are saying that someone applied to but didn't get into to UVA or UMD (in state), that would still mean they were willing to do the 13th grade.

And if you didn't get into UVA/UMD, and then say it's like "13th grade", then that's just face-saving sour grapes.

I hope my kids leave the state/area for college. But they may prefer the “13th grade” option. It’s just how it is and different people have different preferences.

If you are offended by “13th grade” then you may want to reflect on why.

DP. It's not "offensive," it's merely inaccurate. Students do not run into their high school classmates at any of these large schools unless they make a plan to do so. There are thousands of students, including many OOS kids. People who call it "13th grade" don't actually have kids at these schools; they're just making dumb statements that aren't backed up in way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of my kids went to an OOS flagship that was about the same price (due to merit aid) & lower ranked than the comparable in-state option.

The biggest advantages of leaving the state was being exposed to a different part of the country & meeting a whole new group of friends (nobody from kid’s high school attended the OOS school). If kid had stayed in-state, would have been an hour from home & would have hung out with same friends as in high school.

Only a fraction of what you learn in college is in the classroom. While in-state publics often “get the job done,” going OOS can foster more personal growth.

OMG. You truly do believe your own gaslighting.

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Anonymous wrote:In state = 13th Grade

+1

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That's what parents/kids say when they don't get in. It's a face-saving technique that's entirely transparent.

What? Plenty of kids who don't get into UVA or UMD can do better than VT/JMU or UMBC oos

dp... yes, but this particular thread is about how going to in state = 13th year.

If you are saying that someone applied to but didn't get into to UVA or UMD (in state), that would still mean they were willing to do the 13th grade.

And if you didn't get into UVA/UMD, and then say it's like "13th grade", then that's just face-saving sour grapes.

I hope my kids leave the state/area for college. But they may prefer the “13th grade” option. It’s just how it is and different people have different preferences.

If you are offended by “13th grade” then you may want to reflect on why.

? I'm not offended by it. IMO, the the ^^PP who called it 13th grade probably did so because their DC got rejected to the flagship.

I'm originally from CA, and we have a very different opinion about going in state (yes, I know why.. CA has a lot more great options). So, even in the DC area, it doesn't bother me that going in state = 13th grade, especially if that in state is the flagship that has an amazing national reputation.

If you weren’t offended then why did you say the PP’s kid probably got rejected?

13th grade is 13th grade. Regardless of where PP’s kids were accepted.

But no one calls it 13th grade anymore. UVA is far too difficult to get into. And if you know someone there, they will tell you that you never see those that they know because of 26,900 students down there. Our private high school sent only two students, the valedictorian and salutatorian- they ever saw each other. Those Eagle Scouts that went from our son’s troop also says they never saw each other and lost contact

The original PP never even said UVA.

Many kids/parents seek out OOS colleges regardless of their ability to get accepted at any particular in-state college.

They want a different experience. That’s ok. It’s just a preference. No need to be offended by other people’s preferences.

go look at the comments above. Riddled with references to UVA

Scroll up to the top.

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Anonymous wrote:If the wacko aspect of an employee's religious faith doesn't affect their job performance, then it is also discrimination. Against the law plain and simple. You are violating the law all the time it seems. Wow. Do you even know about Title VII?

It demonstrates poor judgment and potential HR issues done the line.

The law disagrees.

Nope. It would affect job performance and employee retention. No one wants to work with nutters.

So you do discriminate on the basis of religion?

No discrimination. I just don’t hire people with bad judgment and poor social skills. Many (most?) that I do hire are religious.

Wow. It's ironic you don't realize you are indeed discriminating.

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If anyone is demonstrating bad judgment and poor social skills, it's the PP. And I sincerely doubt s/he is in a position to hire anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:DC chose OOS Flagship as it is much better than any instate options. UVA is not good for engineering, and DC’s school is better than VT.

You've said this before, but you won't provide the name of the school. Too funny.

The group of schools includes:

Michigan
Wisconsin
UIUC
Purdue
GA Tech
UC Berkeley
UT Austin
Texas A&M

Sure, we believe you!

Believe what? All of the schools on that list are rated higher than any school in VA for engineering. DC was accepted to multiple and is attend one.

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Anonymous wrote:If the wacko aspect of an employee's religious faith doesn't affect their job performance, then it is also discrimination. Against the law plain and simple. You are violating the law all the time it seems. Wow. Do you even know about Title VII?

It demonstrates poor judgment and potential HR issues done the line.

The law disagrees.

Nope. It would affect job performance and employee retention. No one wants to work with nutters.

So you do discriminate on the basis of religion?

No discrimination. I just don’t hire people with bad judgment and poor social skills. Many (most?) that I do hire are religious.

Wow. It's ironic you don't realize you are indeed discriminating.

If most people I hire are religious then how am I discriminating based on religion?

Because you said you don't hire "religious wackos"

I also don’t hire non-religious wackos.

Non-religions wackos are not a protected class.

No wacko is a protected class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the wacko aspect of an employee's religious faith doesn't affect their job performance, then it is also discrimination. Against the law plain and simple. You are violating the law all the time it seems. Wow. Do you even know about Title VII?

It demonstrates poor judgment and potential HR issues done the line.

The law disagrees.

Nope. It would affect job performance and employee retention. No one wants to work with nutters.

So you do discriminate on the basis of religion?

No discrimination. I just don’t hire people with bad judgment and poor social skills. Many (most?) that I do hire are religious.

Wow. It's ironic you don't realize you are indeed discriminating.

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If anyone is demonstrating bad judgment and poor social skills, it's the PP. And I sincerely doubt s/he is in a position to hire anyone.

As it turns out, I don’t have many of the wackos applying in my field. Maybe 2-3 resumes over the last 20 years. And they were far from qualified so it was a no brainer.

Guess they don’t have good judgment, social skills, or relevant working skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state = 13th Grade

+1

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That's what parents/kids say when they don't get in. It's a face-saving technique that's entirely transparent.

What? Plenty of kids who don't get into UVA or UMD can do better than VT/JMU or UMBC oos

dp... yes, but this particular thread is about how going to in state = 13th year.

If you are saying that someone applied to but didn't get into to UVA or UMD (in state), that would still mean they were willing to do the 13th grade.

And if you didn't get into UVA/UMD, and then say it's like "13th grade", then that's just face-saving sour grapes.

I hope my kids leave the state/area for college. But they may prefer the “13th grade” option. It’s just how it is and different people have different preferences.

If you are offended by “13th grade” then you may want to reflect on why.

DP. It's not "offensive," it's merely inaccurate. Students do not run into their high school classmates at any of these large schools unless they make a plan to do so. There are thousands of students, including many OOS kids. People who call it "13th grade" don't actually have kids at these schools; they're just making dumb statements that aren't backed up in way.

“13th grade” doesn’t mean they literally run into HS peers constantly. It’s just a continuation of what they have done for the last 13 years.

If you are offended by it, that really speaks more about your own insecurities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the wacko aspect of an employee's religious faith doesn't affect their job performance, then it is also discrimination. Against the law plain and simple. You are violating the law all the time it seems. Wow. Do you even know about Title VII?

It demonstrates poor judgment and potential HR issues done the line.

The law disagrees.

Nope. It would affect job performance and employee retention. No one wants to work with nutters.

So you do discriminate on the basis of religion?

No discrimination. I just don’t hire people with bad judgment and poor social skills. Many (most?) that I do hire are religious.

Wow. It's ironic you don't realize you are indeed discriminating.

+1
If anyone is demonstrating bad judgment and poor social skills, it's the PP. And I sincerely doubt s/he is in a position to hire anyone.

As it turns out, I don’t have many of the wackos applying in my field. Maybe 2-3 resumes over the last 20 years. And they were far from qualified so it was a no brainer.

Guess they don’t have good judgment, social skills, or relevant working skills.

I see you're doubling down! No one believes you, so please move on.

Liberty U isn’t really pumping out qualified CS majors, but OK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state = 13th Grade

+1

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That's what parents/kids say when they don't get in. It's a face-saving technique that's entirely transparent.

What? Plenty of kids who don't get into UVA or UMD can do better than VT/JMU or UMBC oos

dp... yes, but this particular thread is about how going to in state = 13th year.

If you are saying that someone applied to but didn't get into to UVA or UMD (in state), that would still mean they were willing to do the 13th grade.

And if you didn't get into UVA/UMD, and then say it's like "13th grade", then that's just face-saving sour grapes.

I hope my kids leave the state/area for college. But they may prefer the “13th grade” option. It’s just how it is and different people have different preferences.

If you are offended by “13th grade” then you may want to reflect on why.

DP. It's not "offensive," it's merely inaccurate. Students do not run into their high school classmates at any of these large schools unless they make a plan to do so. There are thousands of students, including many OOS kids. People who call it "13th grade" don't actually have kids at these schools; they're just making dumb statements that aren't backed up in way.

“13th grade” doesn’t mean they literally run into HS peers constantly. It’s just a continuation of what they have done for the last 13 years.

If you are offended by it, that really speaks more about your own insecurities.

Please explain how it is in any way a "continuation of what they have done for the last 13 years" any more than any other college would be. Especially if we've all established they are not seeing their HS peers at these large schools. We'll wait.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the wacko aspect of an employee's religious faith doesn't affect their job performance, then it is also discrimination. Against the law plain and simple. You are violating the law all the time it seems. Wow. Do you even know about Title VII?

It demonstrates poor judgment and potential HR issues done the line.

The law disagrees.

Nope. It would affect job performance and employee retention. No one wants to work with nutters.

So you do discriminate on the basis of religion?

No discrimination. I just don’t hire people with bad judgment and poor social skills. Many (most?) that I do hire are religious.

Wow. It's ironic you don't realize you are indeed discriminating.

+1
If anyone is demonstrating bad judgment and poor social skills, it's the PP. And I sincerely doubt s/he is in a position to hire anyone.

As it turns out, I don’t have many of the wackos applying in my field. Maybe 2-3 resumes over the last 20 years. And they were far from qualified so it was a no brainer.

Guess they don’t have good judgment, social skills, or relevant working skills.

I see you're doubling down! No one believes you, so please move on.

Liberty U isn’t really pumping out qualified CS majors, but OK.

And Wal-Mart doesn't care who they hire, but ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state = 13th Grade

+1

-1
That's what parents/kids say when they don't get in. It's a face-saving technique that's entirely transparent.

What? Plenty of kids who don't get into UVA or UMD can do better than VT/JMU or UMBC oos

dp... yes, but this particular thread is about how going to in state = 13th year.

If you are saying that someone applied to but didn't get into to UVA or UMD (in state), that would still mean they were willing to do the 13th grade.

And if you didn't get into UVA/UMD, and then say it's like "13th grade", then that's just face-saving sour grapes.

THIS ^^

[b]


I'm a nova dad. Never heard this phrase but, yes, when used here, it's someone with the green-eyed monster whose kid didn't get in

People who think it’s based on jealousy are insecure about their life choices.