Explain ridiculously early 2023/24 start date?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem is the 11 day winter break and the 9 day spring break. None of you are willing to give those up so keep on blaming other religions instead of Christians.....

Definitely willing to chop both of those in half... teachers, however, are not. There was even a suggestion about frontloading 2 teacher work days to August, before school starts. Teachers killed that one too. Would have meant fewer interruptions for kids, and literally no different to teachers other than doing those work days before school starts instead of in October...

[Anonymous]

FCPS teachers already have 6 work days before the school years begins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is the 11 day winter break and the 9 day spring break. None of you are willing to give those up so keep on blaming other religions instead of Christians.....

Definitely willing to chop both of those in half... teachers, however, are not. There was even a suggestion about frontloading 2 teacher work days to August, before school starts. Teachers killed that one too. Would have meant fewer interruptions for kids, and literally no different to teachers other than doing those work days before school starts instead of in October...

You do not understand that the workdays in August are to prepare for the start of the school year? It takes a lot of work to set up your school room and prepare to welcome your new students. The workdays in October are for evaluating and planning based on the performance of students.

Curious. Do you work? Is your job exactly the same every week? Is it not necessary to make adjustments from time to time? Do some of these adjustments require time and evaluation beyond the normal work load?

You cannot just add two more days to the beginning of school and expect it to cover what is needed in October.

[Anonymous]

Summer is more like having only 2 months off now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is the 11 day winter break and the 9 day spring break. None of you are willing to give those up so keep on blaming other religions instead of Christians.....

Definitely willing to chop both of those in half... teachers, however, are not. There was even a suggestion about frontloading 2 teacher work days to August, before school starts. Teachers killed that one too. Would have meant fewer interruptions for kids, and literally no different to teachers other than doing those work days before school starts instead of in October...

You do not understand that the workdays in August are to prepare for the start of the school year? It takes a lot of work to set up your school room and prepare to welcome your new students. The workdays in October are for evaluating and planning based on the performance of students.

Curious. Do you work? Is your job exactly the same every week? Is it not necessary to make adjustments from time to time? Do some of these adjustments require time and evaluation beyond the normal work load?

You cannot just add two more days to the beginning of school and expect it to cover what is needed in October.

I agree with you points, except I’ll point out that there is one day in October and it’s a Staff Development Day, not a TW so the likelihood of accomplishing the part in bold is low.

[Anonymous]

* your points

[Anonymous]

Doesn't the super want to go to year round school? So after the 3-year calendar is approved, who knows what the school year will look like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Summer is more like having only 2 months off now.

2 months is a long time though. Long time for working parents to find childcare, long time for teachers to go without paycheck, long time for kids to go without the structure of school and many students fall behind/regress academically and socially over summer break.

[Anonymous]

I feel like childcare is a red herring in this conversation. maybe someone can enlighten me - but we are a dual working parent household with 3 kids. There are 180 school days. I have to find childcare for the kids on non school days whether it is summer or not. I feel summer has a better set up camps than finding childcare for random days off during the school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Summer is more like having only 2 months off now.

2 months is a long time though. Long time for working parents to find childcare, long time for teachers to go without paycheck, long time for kids to go without the structure of school and many students fall behind/regress academically and socially over summer break.

My teacher spouse in FCPS gets paid monthly for 11 months and says that is what all teachers get. July is the only month of no paycheck. When there was no school in August - I am not certain how it worked. When I was a teacher - I had a choice of getting paid 10 months or 12 months. When teachers get paychecks shouldn't matter for this conversation - they make the same amount either way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Summer is more like having only 2 months off now.

2 months is a long time though. Long time for working parents to find childcare, long time for teachers to go without paycheck, long time for kids to go without the structure of school and many students fall behind/regress academically and socially over summer break.

My teacher spouse in FCPS gets paid monthly for 11 months and says that is what all teachers get. July is the only month of no paycheck. When there was no school in August - I am not certain how it worked. When I was a teacher - I had a choice of getting paid 10 months or 12 months. When teachers get paychecks shouldn't matter for this conversation - they make the same amount either way.

(as in 10 larger paychecks or 12 smaller paychecks - same salary either way)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is the 11 day winter break and the 9 day spring break. None of you are willing to give those up so keep on blaming other religions instead of Christians.....

Definitely willing to chop both of those in half... teachers, however, are not. There was even a suggestion about frontloading 2 teacher work days to August, before school starts. Teachers killed that one too. Would have meant fewer interruptions for kids, and literally no different to teachers other than doing those work days before school starts instead of in October...

Sounds like teachers generally agree that a longer summer break is detrimental to their students' education. They think it is better to have shorter breaks scattered throughout the school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Summer is more like having only 2 months off now.

2 months is a long time though. Long time for working parents to find childcare, long time for teachers to go without paycheck, long time for kids to go without the structure of school and many students fall behind/regress academically and socially over summer break.

It is much easier to find 10 weeks of summer care than random days througout the school year that resulted in first semester almost completely 3 and 4 day weeks and mayb 5 or 6 five day weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is the 11 day winter break and the 9 day spring break. None of you are willing to give those up so keep on blaming other religions instead of Christians.....

Definitely willing to chop both of those in half... teachers, however, are not. There was even a suggestion about frontloading 2 teacher work days to August, before school starts. Teachers killed that one too. Would have meant fewer interruptions for kids, and literally no different to teachers other than doing those work days before school starts instead of in October...

Sounds like teachers generally agree that a longer summer break is detrimental to their students' education. They think it is better to have shorter breaks scattered throughout the school year.

Parents weren’t willing either based off survey results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like childcare is a red herring in this conversation. maybe someone can enlighten me - but we are a dual working parent household with 3 kids. There are 180 school days. I have to find childcare for the kids on non school days whether it is summer or not. I feel summer has a better set up camps than finding childcare for random days off during the school year.

It is easier to find summer care than trying to cover a school year with random days off and almost no 5 dsy weeks or full months of school.