Anonymous wrote:Also consider that the nicknames aren’t popular anymore so we have William (who’s maybe Will or Liam), Daniel, Patrick, Christopher, Geoffrey or Jefferson, Thomas - just to name some examples straight from my life with teens.
Gen Xers with these names would have been Bill or Billy, Dan, Pat or Rick(y), Chris, Jeff and Tom or Tommy.
In my family’s situation, Dad is Bill and son is William.
Yep, I agreed with Daniel on the condition that there will be no nicknames. Seems like the rest of the moms felt the same: Daniel goes to school with Thomas and Gabriel, while my coworkers include Gabe and Tommy.
No-nickname moms are insufferable.
Yes, but inevitably their child winds up with a peer- or self-assigned nickname they HATE, and then spend the rest of their life grinding their teeth and saying “It’s GabRIEL” under her breath when all their sons college friends, his wife, and coworkers just call him Gabe.
MIL? Once again, Brucie or Tommy sounds weird on adult males.
No one is talking about “Brucie” that’s a baby name not a nickname.
But people who name their kids Daniel, Gabriel, Thomas, Victoria, Jessica, etc., and then try to police their own choice to use nicknames like Dan, Gabe, Tom, Vic, Jess, etc. It’s fine if you only want to call your kid by their full name, and if they choose that, great. But if you choose a name with a common nickname you actively don’t like and then militantly try to prevent anyone from using the nickname, it’s just controlling.
I don't call Jess "Jessica" or Dan "Daniel" out of respect for their name choices and preferences, despite my liking the full versions better. It's baffling to me, that expecting respect for my choices is being "just controlling".
PS. I know an adult Brucie, and it's not my place (or yours) to argue whether it's a baby name to not.
The whole point is that once you give your kid a name, THEY get to decide whether the are okay with nicknames or not. Not mommy.
For a child under school age, sure, tell people “it’s Daniel, not Dan.” But after that, it’s up to the kid, and when a mom starts telling his friends and others “no, it’s Daniel,” when actually he is totally cool with Dan and even likes it when his school friends call him that, yes, it’s controlling.
You’re just being argumentative on Bruce— I don’t care either way but either you or another PP brought it up as anocknsme you think sounds bad on an adult. I didn’t dismiss it because I wouldn’t use it if someone old me to, I dismissed it because it’s a ridiculous straw man in a conversation about nicknames, since it’s not even remotely common for people to use it as a nickname on anyone over the age of 2. Which you know.
Whatever. Speaking of strawmen, you made up a scenario and based on it called me insufferable and controlling.
FWIW, the only person who I insisted called my kid Daniel is my DH. Lucky for me, Daniel in question (who is in HS), uses his full name as do his friends.
I’m not the PP who called you insufferable, but I see it’s a sensitive issue for you.
No need to get snarky, little Dick’s mom.
Everything Bruce I met has been an awesome person.
I have become convinced that these posts linking to this IG account are from the person who runs the account. And the more they post them, the more I hate the account and find the name suggestions therein to be incredibly bad.
I have become convinced that these posts linking to this IG account are from the person who runs the account. And the more they post them, the more I hate the account and find the name suggestions therein to be incredibly bad.
Fergus? Come. On.
Hmm. Can you please cut + paste the list the names in the linked page? I don't have IG.
Define "very popular" because it and its variations are ranked pretty low on the SSN list. I've never met one, of any age.
Your world is small then as I can think of two just off the top of my head.
What a weird comment.
It's a statistically uncommon name. You may know people with it, but it's not "very popular." We have data for this, you don't just get to make stuff up because you personally know a couple people with that name.
There are people today named Fred, OP (and you) acts like no one ever in this century is or has been named Fred.
OP here. I definitely never said that! It’s just not that popular (Frederick in the 400s, other variations much lower). It’s not common like Henry or Theodore (names I really like but would not use because they are too common). I personally don’t know any Fred/Freddys and I have never seen it suggested on this site or any of the naming sites/blogs accounts I follow.
But I definitely never said no one had it. Just that I think it’s a great name that isn’t used that often. Not sure why that made you mad!
It is a great name. Make sure to say it out loud with your last name to make sure it flows well. (Also glance at the initials - ie: LOL, CUM, etc..
Anonymous wrote:Two of my friends in the UK named their sons Harvey. To me, they sound old and fat but they were well-educated, upper-ish class people.
Anonymous wrote:
Also consider that the nicknames aren’t popular anymore so we have William (who’s maybe Will or Liam), Daniel, Patrick, Christopher, Geoffrey or Jefferson, Thomas - just to name some examples straight from my life with teens.
Gen Xers with these names would have been Bill or Billy, Dan, Pat or Rick(y), Chris, Jeff and Tom or Tommy.
In my family’s situation, Dad is Bill and son is William.
I LOVE the name Liam, and have never heard of it being used as a nickname (or rather to shorten) the name William.... how lovely.
Disagree that it's lovely, since it's the same name in a different language. It's appropriation, like naming your kid Joseph and calling them Jose "as a nickname."
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