What do you *REALLY* think of Atheists?

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Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.


We see creation all over and we conclude their must be a Creator.
You see creation all over and conclude it just happened.




Who created the creator?

No creator is necessary for the creator?

Then no creator is necessary for the creation of the universe either.


But, you said it was with the Big Bang the universe was created.

The Creator is uncreated beyond space time.



This is what people of faith believe, that God has always existed an will always exist.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.


Q:How did this thread go from op asking what people think of Atheists to Atheists bashing God and the beliefs of Christians?

A:all threads here end up bashing Christians


Sorry - the above is not atheists bashing God -- just someone expressing their very cogent views. You don't believe it? fine.

Sadly , some Christians react badly to having their beliefs challenged.


Nope. PP raised a very good question about why the atheist above went off-topic to bash faith instead of answering OP's question. Your attacks on Christians are simply new ad hominems. You guys need to stop the gish-gallopping and stick to the thread topic.


You need to stop misrepresenting what PP said. PP said “atheists bashing God”. No one is bashing any gods. Facts.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.


Q:How did this thread go from op asking what people think of Atheists to Atheists bashing God and the beliefs of Christians?

A:all threads here end up bashing Christians


Sorry - the above is not atheists bashing God -- just someone expressing their very cogent views. You don't believe it? fine.

Sadly , some Christians react badly to having their beliefs challenged.


DP. Oh for the love of God stop hate trolling with the twists of logic and ad hominems. You’re everything people think of when they say they don’t like dealing with atheists.


Tell me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems without telling me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems.


^^ non-answer to a completely accurate charge. This is an example of why DCUM's atheists have such a bad rap.


It’s completely INaccurate.

There were no twist of logic or ad hominens. PP should learn the meaning of words before trying to throw them out as insults.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.


Q:How did this thread go from op asking what people think of Atheists to Atheists bashing God and the beliefs of Christians?

A:all threads here end up bashing Christians


I promise you I’m not bashing anyone. Just stating facts.


You cannot prove or disprove this belief that God does not exist.
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Anonymous wrote:OP again. I feel very little need to get to the bottom of whether there is or isn't a God. I don't believe there is (so I don't "hate him" or "turn to him in a crisis", as PP's have mentioned). I also don't blame him for bad things that've happened in history or in my life. I would have to believe in him to blame him so these dots don't connect. There are bad people and I do blame them (Hitler, as an example). Honestly, I don't think about him at all unless I get into a conversation about religion/beliefs. I feel that I have spent a considerable amount of time contemplating this earlier in my life and I reached a decision that feels right for me so that's where I landed.

I get that for those who have a strong faith, they take their belief....on faith. They choose to believe in God and to accept that he exists based on their interpretation of things that lead to this conclusion (things which I likely would view differently), or they don't spend time thinking about evidence because they don't need it; their faith that it's true is enough. I get that, and respect it.

I know there are Atheists out there who are looking for the fight...demanding proof, challenging believers, asserting how wrong they are. Frankly, those Atheists give the rest of us a bad rap. I'm not interested in this sort of conversation. It's a very strange take on evangelizing. <jk> I'm not one of those Atheists.

There are also people of faith who evangelize quite inappropriately. Not a fan. I've never understood their need to try to push their beliefs on others, except that I know some of them have tried to "save me". Ummm... no thanks; I'm good.

And not to make too light of the analogy used previously but I choose not to have a strong opinion about the Loch Ness Monster because I soooo want that one to be true.



Hello, OP, glad that you tune in occassionally. You say "I know there are Atheists out there who are looking for the fight...demanding proof, challenging believers, asserting how wrong they are. Frankly, those Atheists give the rest of us a bad rap."

I disagree with this. Such atheists are not pleasant, but I don't think they don't give all of us a bad rap. Child molesting priests don't give all Catholics a bad rap and Maga evangelicals don't give all Christians a bad rap. Creepy homosexuals don't give all gays a bad rap.

See my point? It's easy to blame a whole category of people for the actions of a few. It's been done a lot and is still being done. I don't think we should do it to ourselves.

Thanks for starting this thread.




Good points.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.


Q:How did this thread go from op asking what people think of Atheists to Atheists bashing God and the beliefs of Christians?

A:all threads here end up bashing Christians


Sorry - the above is not atheists bashing God -- just someone expressing their very cogent views. You don't believe it? fine.

Sadly , some Christians react badly to having their beliefs challenged.


DP. Oh for the love of God stop hate trolling with the twists of logic and ad hominems. You’re everything people think of when they say they don’t like dealing with atheists.


Tell me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems without telling me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems.


^^ non-answer to a completely accurate charge. This is an example of why DCUM's atheists have such a bad rap.


It’s completely INaccurate.

There were no twist of logic or ad hominens. PP should learn the meaning of words before trying to throw them out as insults.


PP had a good point: certain atheists in this forum create an unpleasant vibe in the religion forum and are unnecessarily defensive, patronizing and aggressive. They definitely do give atheists a bad rap.
Anonymous
Sorry if the truth and facts are hard to hear. Not atheists’ fault.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have a number of relatives on my side and in-laws on my husband's side, plus colleagues and friends who are religious (Catholic, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, mostly). Sometimes we talk about religion and I'm comfortable saying that I am Atheist, sometimes I'm not comfortable so I talk about them but don't share my view (I never share with work colleagues).

If you consider yourself religious, what do you think of Atheists? My father-in-law won't say it but I'm pretty sure he thinks I worship the Devil and I know he thinks I'm going to hell. There is more to this story but it sometimes gets me thinking that those who practice their faith openly may have some strong opinions they're not saying.

Hoping for some honest replies but if you feel inclined to tell me how wrong my choice is I promise you I've already heard it so I probably won't read more than the first few words of what you post. I respect others' choices and just want the same.


What do I think of atheists? I don't. I am observant in my religion, and don't judge others for their beliefs
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.


We see creation all over and we conclude their must be a Creator.
You see creation all over and conclude it just happened.




Who created the creator?

No creator is necessary for the creator?

Then no creator is necessary for the creation of the universe either.


But, you said it was with the Big Bang the universe was created.

The Creator is uncreated beyond space time.



The universe is created beyond space time.

See how easy that is?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.


We see creation all over and we conclude their must be a Creator.
You see creation all over and conclude it just happened.




Who created the creator?

No creator is necessary for the creator?

Then no creator is necessary for the creation of the universe either.


But, you said it was with the Big Bang the universe was created.

The Creator is uncreated beyond space time.



The universe is created beyond space time.

See how easy that is?


Lol sorry of course I meant “uncreated”.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.


Q:How did this thread go from op asking what people think of Atheists to Atheists bashing God and the beliefs of Christians?

A:all threads here end up bashing Christians


I promise you I’m not bashing anyone. Just stating facts.


You cannot prove or disprove this belief that God does not exist.


DP . I am not claiming god does not exist. I simply don’t believe in one, just the way you do not believe in many things others do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.


We see creation all over and we conclude their must be a Creator.
You see creation all over and conclude it just happened.




Who created the creator?

No creator is necessary for the creator?

Then no creator is necessary for the creation of the universe either.


But, you said it was with the Big Bang the universe was created.

The Creator is uncreated beyond space time.



The universe is created beyond space time.

See how easy that is?


Lol sorry of course I meant “uncreated”.


NO,
With the Big Bang the start of the universe and space time.
So, there is specific creation time for the universe.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.


We see creation all over and we conclude their must be a Creator.
You see creation all over and conclude it just happened.




Who created the creator?

No creator is necessary for the creator?

Then no creator is necessary for the creation of the universe either.


But, you said it was with the Big Bang the universe was created.

The Creator is uncreated beyond space time.



The universe is created beyond space time.

See how easy that is?


Lol sorry of course I meant “uncreated”.


NO,
With the Big Bang the start of the universe and space time.
So, there is specific creation time for the universe.


Dude you don’t get it both ways. If god can create itself so can the universe. One big difference: we have evidence the universe exists.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.


We see creation all over and we conclude their must be a Creator.
You see creation all over and conclude it just happened.




Who created the creator?

No creator is necessary for the creator?

Then no creator is necessary for the creation of the universe either.


But, you said it was with the Big Bang the universe was created.

The Creator is uncreated beyond space time.



The universe is created beyond space time.

See how easy that is?


Lol sorry of course I meant “uncreated”.


NO,
With the Big Bang the start of the universe and space time.
So, there is specific creation time for the universe.


Dude you don’t get it both ways. If god can create itself so can the universe. One big difference: we have evidence the universe exists.


You are the one trying to have it both ways.
First you said, with the Big Bang the universe was created.
Second time, you said the universe was uncreated.

What I said is the Creator is uncreated beyond space time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.


We see creation all over and we conclude their must be a Creator.
You see creation all over and conclude it just happened.




Who created the creator?

No creator is necessary for the creator?

Then no creator is necessary for the creation of the universe either.


But, you said it was with the Big Bang the universe was created.

The Creator is uncreated beyond space time.



The universe is created beyond space time.

See how easy that is?


Lol sorry of course I meant “uncreated”.


NO,
With the Big Bang the start of the universe and space time.
So, there is specific creation time for the universe.


Dude you don’t get it both ways. If god can create itself so can the universe. One big difference: we have evidence the universe exists.


You are the one trying to have it both ways.
First you said, with the Big Bang the universe was created.
Second time, you said the universe was uncreated.

What I said is the Creator is uncreated beyond space time.


Not sure what you are talking about. Never said the universe was uncreated. Just that there is no reason to think it needs a “creator” as you define it.

If god can create itself so can the universe. However these are both nonsensical points as they presuppose many things there is no evidence for, like “before” the Big Bang, and a dimension “outside space time”.

We kinda know what happened. Anything we don’t have evidence for we are fine saying “we don’t know - yet”. No reason to make up a bunch of stuff.
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