What do you *REALLY* think of Atheists?

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Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.

Q:How did this thread go from op asking what people think of Atheists to Atheists bashing God and the beliefs of Christians?

A:all threads here end up bashing Christians

Sorry - the above is not atheists bashing God -- just someone expressing their very cogent views. You don't believe it? fine.

Sadly , some Christians react badly to having their beliefs challenged.

DP. Oh for the love of God stop hate trolling with the twists of logic and ad hominems. You’re everything people think of when they say they don’t like dealing with atheists.

There’s no twists of logic. Just facts. Sorry, I hate to be the one to tell you.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.

We see creation all over and we conclude their must be a Creator.
You see creation all over and conclude it just happened.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.[/quote]

We see creation all over and we conclude their must be a Creator.
You see creation all over and conclude it just happened.


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Exactly - humans could not deal with creation just happening. So they made up a story about god the creator.

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Why don’t you give us explanation how creation can just happen ?

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you give us explanation how creation can just happen ?

Nothing just happens. Big bang, whatever. But the whole persona of god and the stories and why we should worship him, etc are made up by humans. Similar to the ancient Egyptians who worshipped all kinds of gods. Giving a label and story behind life on earth.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you give us explanation how creation can just happen ?

Nothing just happens. Big bang, whatever. But the whole persona of god and the stories and why we should worship him, etc are made up by humans. Similar to the ancient Egyptians who worshipped all kinds of gods. Giving a label and story behind life on earth.

We believe the Creator is responsible for the Big Bang.
Non believers will say just happened.

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They may be depressed.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.

We see creation all over and we conclude their must be a Creator.
You see creation all over and conclude it just happened.right - bu the whole persons

The whole persona and stories behind god are man made.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.

We see creation all over and we conclude their must be a Creator.
You see creation all over and conclude it just happened.

Who created the creator?

No creator is necessary for the creator?

Then no creator is necessary for the creation of the universe either.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a number of relatives on my side and in-laws on my husband's side, plus colleagues and friends who are religious (Catholic, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, mostly). Sometimes we talk about religion and I'm comfortable saying that I am Atheist, sometimes I'm not comfortable so I talk about them but don't share my view (I never share with work colleagues).

If you consider yourself religious, what do you think of Atheists? My father-in-law won't say it but I'm pretty sure he thinks I worship the Devil and I know he thinks I'm going to hell. There is more to this story but it sometimes gets me thinking that those who practice their faith openly may have some strong opinions they're not saying.

Hoping for some honest replies but if you feel inclined to tell me how wrong my choice is I promise you I've already heard it so I probably won't read more than the first few words of what you post. I respect others' choices and just want the same.

Why would anyone see you differently for having a different belief? Religion is something which gives you peace, which comes with faith, you can't talk yourself into it. Sometimes it comes if people just start doing the motion or move in religious circles, just like fitness does but those people usually go back to their original weight rather quickly.

Lots of people view atheists differently. And Lots of people talk themselves out of religion -- sometimes because they didn't have a choice, as children, not to believe. Sometimes it happens because the more they think about religious issues the more ridiculous religion seems to them. And for some people, religion never takes, even if they are indoctrinated as children.

Religion also brings some people peace and seems to come naturally to them. I think religion is like so many things -- some people go for it and others don't.

However, in our society, religion is often seen as something that is inherently GOOD and non-religion is seen as inherently BAD. Thus some people who are not religious pretend that they are. And some of the responses on this thread make it clear why they do. Religious people often think it's OK - even good or natural, to disparage people who are not religious.

Well said.

OP here. I've been in conversations in which someone will ask about my faith and I generally won't hide that I am an Atheist, but saying that is sometimes met with silence and I can tell that there is an opinion about it they aren't comfortable sharing. This happened recently and got me thinking and is why I posted to ask for feedback (a lot of which has been constructive, so thank you for that).

Also, I choose to say I'm Atheist because it's true. I don't want to vaguely state my view as though I'm reluctant to say my truth, which is that I don't believe in God or subscribe to a faith. I get the PP who chooses to say it differently and says "not religious" but when someone says that to me I generally think they believe in God but don't go to church or celebrate religious holidays. That doesn't clearly say to me, "I don't believe in God and am therefore not religious". "Not religious" would be true for me, but not true enough. But I get that this is a way to say it that doesn't provoke others who are inclined to feel provoked by the word Atheist.

I have zero interest in bashing people who have a faith and strongly held beliefs. I have zero interest in debating whether their choice or mine is better (though I enjoy a respectful discussion). There is a "tension" that exists between people of faith and non-believers and the debate about it is futile. Asking for proof is futile because two people will look at the same thing and draw different conclusions.

The sun came up this morning; God is amazing!
The sun came up this morning, astrophysics is amazing!

I wish fewer people (from either side) felt the need to "be right" or "belittle" someone whose beliefs are different.

Who set astrophysics in motion?

Who says there is a who?

Oh sure. It's all just happened so perfectly and wonderfully and has lasted for so many years. All just out of nothing. That makes far more sense than believing there is a God behind it all, she said sarcastically.

The Universe is 14.7 Billion years old. Earth is 4.5 Billion years old.

Humans have been around .001% of all existence. There are an unknowable amount of solar systems in the universe. Not unknowable in the “God is unknowable so we need faith” way. In the Billions, potentially Trillions because the universe is expanding as we speak kind of way. It doesn’t make sense to you that in one of those solar systems, there could randomly be a be our “perfectly wonderful” planet?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.

We see creation all over and we conclude their must be a Creator.
You see creation all over and conclude it just happened.

Who created the creator?

No creator is necessary for the creator?

Then no creator is necessary for the creation of the universe either.

and who created the creator’s creator and the creator’s creator’s creator etc etc etc?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.

We see creation all over and we conclude their must be a Creator.
You see creation all over and conclude it just happened.

Who created the creator?

No creator is necessary for the creator?

Then no creator is necessary for the creation of the universe either.

But, you said it was with the Big Bang the universe was created.

The Creator is uncreated beyond space time.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.

Q:How did this thread go from op asking what people think of Atheists to Atheists bashing God and the beliefs of Christians?

A:all threads here end up bashing Christians

Sorry - the above is not atheists bashing God -- just someone expressing their very cogent views. You don't believe it? fine.

Sadly , some Christians react badly to having their beliefs challenged.

DP. Oh for the love of God stop hate trolling with the twists of logic and ad hominems. You’re everything people think of when they say they don’t like dealing with atheists.

Tell me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems without telling me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.

Q:How did this thread go from op asking what people think of Atheists to Atheists bashing God and the beliefs of Christians?

A:all threads here end up bashing Christians

Sorry - the above is not atheists bashing God -- just someone expressing their very cogent views. You don't believe it? fine.

Sadly , some Christians react badly to having their beliefs challenged.

Nope. PP raised a very good question about why the atheist above went off-topic to bash faith instead of answering OP's question. Your attacks on Christians are simply new ad hominems. You guys need to stop the gish-gallopping and stick to the thread topic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.

Q:How did this thread go from op asking what people think of Atheists to Atheists bashing God and the beliefs of Christians?

A:all threads here end up bashing Christians

Sorry - the above is not atheists bashing God -- just someone expressing their very cogent views. You don't believe it? fine.

Sadly , some Christians react badly to having their beliefs challenged.

DP. Oh for the love of God stop hate trolling with the twists of logic and ad hominems. You’re everything people think of when they say they don’t like dealing with atheists.

Tell me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems without telling me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems.

^^ non-answer to a completely accurate charge. This is an example of why DCUM's atheists have such a bad rap.