Bathroom security announcement

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.

+1 are we living in a 3rd world county where girls on their periods are made to stay home from school?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These schools need to expel kids who break the rules. Plain and simple, if you're caught vaping at school or doing drugs then you should be expelled. Put this issue back on the parents.


That is no an option because it is not Equitable.


Both are against the law. I don't understand why the police aren't doing their jobs.

because Elrich and his progressive crew don't want certain groups to be disproportionately impacted.

Some progressive liberal stated that in order to be equitable, you have to apply rules inequitably.

So, here we are.


So you believe the police aren't doing their job because of some far-left conspiracy group? These are laws that are on the books. Enforcing them isn't controversial. I think the theory the police are intentionally turning a blind eye to shake the county down for the SRO funds holds more merit.

the police cannot do their jobs in the HS because Elrich and his progressive crew basically defunded the police in the schools. Cops cannot go into the HS at will and arrest people. They have to be called in by admin. So, it's really the admins in the school who are turning a blind eye due to #equity. It's not the cops not wanting to do their jobs.

I think you are dumb to think cops don't want to arrest law breakers. Elrich and the progressives voted to defund the police and get cops out of school. The police actually were willing to make changes to keep SROs in schools, and MCPS was going to do a study to look at the impact of SROs in MCPS but Elrich and Jawando defunded the police before any study could be completed.

So again, now here we are..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.

+1 are we living in a 3rd world county where girls on their periods are made to stay home from school?


Sounds like it.

Wow, the posters on this thread is unbelievable. Every month, my DD should stay home for a day or two because of her period?

I actually come from a 3rd world country and even we don’t expect girls to do this. Unbelievable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


It was my solution as my periods were that bad in HS. MCPS isn't going to address the issue and our leadership is clueless. Instead of bringing in more security, they lock the bathrooms. So, yes, I'd let a girl stay home for it if necessary.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These schools need to expel kids who break the rules. Plain and simple, if you're caught vaping at school or doing drugs then you should be expelled. Put this issue back on the parents.


That is no an option because it is not Equitable.


Both are against the law. I don't understand why the police aren't doing their jobs.

because Elrich and his progressive crew don't want certain groups to be disproportionately impacted.

Some progressive liberal stated that in order to be equitable, you have to apply rules inequitably.

So, here we are.


So you believe the police aren't doing their job because of some far-left conspiracy group? These are laws that are on the books. Enforcing them isn't controversial. I think the theory the police are intentionally turning a blind eye to shake the county down for the SRO funds holds more merit.

the police cannot do their jobs in the HS because Elrich and his progressive crew basically defunded the police in the schools. Cops cannot go into the HS at will and arrest people. They have to be called in by admin. So, it's really the admins in the school who are turning a blind eye due to #equity. It's not the cops not wanting to do their jobs.

I think you are dumb to think cops don't want to arrest law breakers. Elrich and the progressives voted to defund the police and get cops out of school. The police actually were willing to make changes to keep SROs in schools, and MCPS was going to do a study to look at the impact of SROs in MCPS but Elrich and Jawando defunded the police before any study could be completed.

So again, now here we are..


The other option is for MCPS to just hire more security guards and hall monitors. Problem solved to get around those against it. We need more security than just SRO's at this point and need a mix of solutions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I'll go so far as to say that this disproportionately impacts girls (menstruation) and therefore any bathroom restrictions are discriminatory against girls.

It's a policy that cannot stand.

MCPS is willing to have one entire gender suffer just because the cheapest solution is to limit bathroom access when there are MANY OTHER solutions... but they require more personnel and more money.


Wait, can you clearly outline what the solution is? Let's say there are twenty bathrooms in a school. What do we do to make sure those twenty bathrooms are free of vaping, weed, sex, and destruction of property every day in every school? Are we posting a janitor in each one with a baseball bat and hoping nothing untoward happens?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'll go so far as to say that this disproportionately impacts girls (menstruation) and therefore any bathroom restrictions are discriminatory against girls.

It's a policy that cannot stand.

MCPS is willing to have one entire gender suffer just because the cheapest solution is to limit bathroom access when there are MANY OTHER solutions... but they require more personnel and more money.


Wait, can you clearly outline what the solution is? Let's say there are twenty bathrooms in a school. What do we do to make sure those twenty bathrooms are free of vaping, weed, sex, and destruction of property every day in every school? Are we posting a janitor in each one with a baseball bat and hoping nothing untoward happens?


We don't have enough janitors to do that but we can hire other staff to be security guards and hall monitors. I'm perfectly fine with an adult with a bat at each bathroom if that's what it takes to keep students and staff safe. Reality is if they are not allowed in the bathrooms, they will find other places and MCPS needs to come down hard on these kids if parents will not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


It was my solution as my periods were that bad in HS. MCPS isn't going to address the issue and our leadership is clueless. Instead of bringing in more security, they lock the bathrooms. So, yes, I'd let a girl stay home for it if necessary.

My middle school has a dozen or so bathrooms. How many SROs do they need to actively police them all?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'll go so far as to say that this disproportionately impacts girls (menstruation) and therefore any bathroom restrictions are discriminatory against girls.

It's a policy that cannot stand.

MCPS is willing to have one entire gender suffer just because the cheapest solution is to limit bathroom access when there are MANY OTHER solutions... but they require more personnel and more money.


Wait, can you clearly outline what the solution is? Let's say there are twenty bathrooms in a school. What do we do to make sure those twenty bathrooms are free of vaping, weed, sex, and destruction of property every day in every school? Are we posting a janitor in each one with a baseball bat and hoping nothing untoward happens?


In addition to having sufficient personnel on staff, leadership begins at the top of a school system and within each school. In schools where students know expectations and the consequences for certain behaviors, you don't need baseball bats, etc. When kids think they can do as they please without consequences, more than a few will take advantage. Where's the leadership?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


What issue? Sure, you may see a kid vaping once in a while but that's hardly anything to get worked up over.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'll go so far as to say that this disproportionately impacts girls (menstruation) and therefore any bathroom restrictions are discriminatory against girls.

It's a policy that cannot stand.

MCPS is willing to have one entire gender suffer just because the cheapest solution is to limit bathroom access when there are MANY OTHER solutions... but they require more personnel and more money.


Wait, can you clearly outline what the solution is? Let's say there are twenty bathrooms in a school. What do we do to make sure those twenty bathrooms are free of vaping, weed, sex, and destruction of property every day in every school? Are we posting a janitor in each one with a baseball bat and hoping nothing untoward happens?


In addition to having sufficient personnel on staff, leadership begins at the top of a school system and within each school. In schools where students know expectations and the consequences for certain behaviors, you don't need baseball bats, etc. When kids think they can do as they please without consequences, more than a few will take advantage. Where's the leadership?


If something illegal is going on in your school bathroom, then it's a police matter. You should report this. It's their job to address criminal activity regardless of where it happens within the county.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'll go so far as to say that this disproportionately impacts girls (menstruation) and therefore any bathroom restrictions are discriminatory against girls.

It's a policy that cannot stand.

MCPS is willing to have one entire gender suffer just because the cheapest solution is to limit bathroom access when there are MANY OTHER solutions... but they require more personnel and more money.


Wait, can you clearly outline what the solution is? Let's say there are twenty bathrooms in a school. What do we do to make sure those twenty bathrooms are free of vaping, weed, sex, and destruction of property every day in every school? Are we posting a janitor in each one with a baseball bat and hoping nothing untoward happens?


In addition to having sufficient personnel on staff, leadership begins at the top of a school system and within each school. In schools where students know expectations and the consequences for certain behaviors, you don't need baseball bats, etc. When kids think they can do as they please without consequences, more than a few will take advantage. Where's the leadership?


If something illegal is going on in your school bathroom, then it's a police matter. You should report this. It's their job to address criminal activity regardless of where it happens within the county.

The schools won't report it because #equity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'll go so far as to say that this disproportionately impacts girls (menstruation) and therefore any bathroom restrictions are discriminatory against girls.

It's a policy that cannot stand.

MCPS is willing to have one entire gender suffer just because the cheapest solution is to limit bathroom access when there are MANY OTHER solutions... but they require more personnel and more money.


Wait, can you clearly outline what the solution is? Let's say there are twenty bathrooms in a school. What do we do to make sure those twenty bathrooms are free of vaping, weed, sex, and destruction of property every day in every school? Are we posting a janitor in each one with a baseball bat and hoping nothing untoward happens?


In addition to having sufficient personnel on staff, leadership begins at the top of a school system and within each school. In schools where students know expectations and the consequences for certain behaviors, you don't need baseball bats, etc. When kids think they can do as they please without consequences, more than a few will take advantage. Where's the leadership?


We need both MCPS leadership and parenting. Parents need to also parent.

You don't need SRO's for hall monitoring. You need hall monitors who work with the SRO's.
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