Federal Reserve RTO

[Anonymous]

First, let me say I’m not a government worker, but a lifelong DC area resident. I am curious about how people view DC employment. Many came here for the jobs. Now they want to take the jobs. How does DC not become Detroit?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First, let me say I’m not a government worker, but a lifelong DC area resident. I am curious about how people view DC employment. Many came here for the jobs. Now they want to take the jobs. How does DC not become Detroit?

Because Executive branch/Congress/Judiciary ain't moving. When they do, detroit 2.0

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:First, let me say I’m not a government worker, but a lifelong DC area resident. I am curious about how people view DC employment. Many came here for the jobs. Now they want to take the jobs. How does DC not become Detroit?

Because Executive branch/Congress/Judiciary ain't moving. When they do, detroit 2.0

So, DC can become Detroit?

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Anonymous wrote:First, let me say I’m not a government worker, but a lifelong DC area resident. I am curious about how people view DC employment. Many came here for the jobs. Now they want to take the jobs. How does DC not become Detroit?

Because Executive branch/Congress/Judiciary ain't moving. When they do, detroit 2.0

So, DC can become Detroit?

DC actually had a net increase of population in 2022. It’s going to be fine. Economies change.

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Anonymous wrote:First, let me say I’m not a government worker, but a lifelong DC area resident. I am curious about how people view DC employment. Many came here for the jobs. Now they want to take the jobs. How does DC not become Detroit?

Because Executive branch/Congress/Judiciary ain't moving. When they do, detroit 2.0

So, DC can become Detroit?

DC actually had a net increase of population in 2022. It’s going to be fine. Economies change.

Y’all kinda sound like politicians. Say it’s gonna be fine but the exodus hadn’t happened yet! You don’t know what’s gonna happen. JC.

[Anonymous]

According to Bloomberg, the NYFed returned to two DOW in the office in response to a general call by the city’s mayor for employees to return to the city. Why is the Board/DC different?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to Bloomberg, the NYFed returned to two DOW in the office in response to a general call by the city’s mayor for employees to return to the city. Why is the Board/DC different?

It didn't stick because there was no business reason for it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP seems to think they’re responding to one repeat poster. They’re definitely not, as they’re attributing different people’s arguments to the same poster. I know that because I’ve posted several posts, but the response to my post included comments as if if I made other posts.

Very interesting that you think the OP has responded more than 1-2 times on this thread. I'm the OP and I can tell you I haven't. Maybe it makes you feel better to think you're responding to one person.

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Anonymous wrote:First, let me say I’m not a government worker, but a lifelong DC area resident. I am curious about how people view DC employment. Many came here for the jobs. Now they want to take the jobs. How does DC not become Detroit?

Because Executive branch/Congress/Judiciary ain't moving. When they do, detroit 2.0

So, DC can become Detroit?

DC actually had a net increase of population in 2022. It’s going to be fine. Economies change.

Y’all kinda sound like politicians. Say it’s gonna be fine but the exodus hadn’t happened yet! You don’t know what’s gonna happen. JC.

Sounds like you understand communities better than the Fed’s policy staff!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP seems to think they’re responding to one repeat poster. They’re definitely not, as they’re attributing different people’s arguments to the same poster. I know that because I’ve posted several posts, but the response to my post included comments as if if I made other posts.

Very interesting that you think the OP has responded more than 1-2 times on this thread. I'm the OP and I can tell you I haven't. Maybe it makes you feel better to think you're responding to one person.

A certain type of DCUM poster gets weirdly invested in the idea that there is only a single poster who could disagree with them.

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Anonymous wrote:First, let me say I’m not a government worker, but a lifelong DC area resident. I am curious about how people view DC employment. Many came here for the jobs. Now they want to take the jobs. How does DC not become Detroit?

Because Executive branch/Congress/Judiciary ain't moving. When they do, detroit 2.0

So, DC can become Detroit?

DC actually had a net increase of population in 2022. It’s going to be fine. Economies change.

Y’all kinda sound like politicians. Say it’s gonna be fine but the exodus hadn’t happened yet! You don’t know what’s gonna happen. JC.

Look. If the federal government believes that part of its job is to force employees to commute into downtown DC, then they are going to have to pay employees to do that. That’s how labor markets work. That is why the Fed will unionize.

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Anonymous wrote:First, let me say I’m not a government worker, but a lifelong DC area resident. I am curious about how people view DC employment. Many came here for the jobs. Now they want to take the jobs. How does DC not become Detroit?

Because Executive branch/Congress/Judiciary ain't moving. When they do, detroit 2.0

So, DC can become Detroit?

DC actually had a net increase of population in 2022. It’s going to be fine. Economies change.

Y’all kinda sound like politicians. Say it’s gonna be fine but the exodus hadn’t happened yet! You don’t know what’s gonna happen. JC.

Sounds like you understand communities better than the Fed’s policy staff!

Please tell us all about the “communities” again? That was not in my job description. I think the Republicans in Congress would be interested to know that the mission of the Federal government is to strengthen the economy of DC and waste money on real estate.

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Anonymous wrote:First, let me say I’m not a government worker, but a lifelong DC area resident. I am curious about how people view DC employment. Many came here for the jobs. Now they want to take the jobs. How does DC not become Detroit?

Because Executive branch/Congress/Judiciary ain't moving. When they do, detroit 2.0

So, DC can become Detroit?

DC actually had a net increase of population in 2022. It’s going to be fine. Economies change.

Y’all kinda sound like politicians. Say it’s gonna be fine but the exodus hadn’t happened yet! You don’t know what’s gonna happen. JC.

Look. If the federal government believes that part of its job is to force employees to commute into downtown DC, then they are going to have to pay employees to do that. That’s how labor markets work. That is why the Fed will unionize.

You’re making the public mad. You’re already paid to commute. Remember, the Fed didn’t cut your salary when they sent you home three years ago. You have been banking that savings for three years. Maybe it’s time you reimburse the Fed and your community.

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Anonymous wrote:OP and their supporters are making themselves look like goofs. They keep citing their opponents as being 5-day/week bootlickers or managers who want to be fawned over, but no one is making those arguments. It’s beyond me why OP can’t go to work and collaborate like they used to, with open doors and face-to-face meetings. Who said that RTO meant sitting in an office with their door closed and working on Teams. That would be the opitome of someone who can’t pivot, not understanding when to use which tools. If I was OPs manager, I’d have a conversation about their attitude and inflexibility. If that didn’t improve with a verbal, PIP it would be. OP doesn’t want hybrid to work. They’re insufferable and should be terminated. Let’s be honest, the Fed is paying this person a handsome sum to work. If they can’t muster the wherewithal to get into the office and be a cordial colleague 2-3 days a week, they’re not needed. Bad apples spoil the bunch.

Because for many of us we mostly work with staff not even located in our building. Pre-Covid we held conference calls. Now it’s Teams calls.

If you have even one person on a project or part of a group who is not located in DC then it necessitates a Teams call. If you have a Teams call then this means everyone is going to sit in their office on the Teams call. Even if everyone who is part of a group is located in DC there’s a chance that at least one person is traveling for work and will need to attend the meeting using Teams.

How is any of this different from pre-COVID? The main difference seems to be that in-office staff no longer gather in conference rooms for video calls, but stay in their offices. Maybe you can suggest that people stop that. In pre-pandemic days, there used to be a lot of conservation both in the conference room and afterwards, oftentimes spilling back into a staffer’s office. It’s this type of non-scheduled, friendly synchronicity that doesn’t happen in a WFH environment. With WFH, everything must be rigidly scheduled and dropped according to video chat appointments. Frankly, I find that annoying.

The difference is that we now all have access to technology that allows us to work remotely. Remember when we used conference lines and not Teams?

In my division there has never been much informal discussion before/after meetings, in the hallways etc. We are working on confidential matters and informal chats in front of people uninvolved in an issue are frowned upon.

If you are able to have conversations in the hallway then you’re able to have them via Teams. It sounds like you need to work on your ability to work remotely. You need to evolve. Things change and you can’t expect the workplace to always stay the same. All of this sounds like a you problem.

That’s a good point about Teams. I had blocked out that we didn’t have Teams before. And I know I’m not the only one who feels like I talk to my colleagues much more now with Teams than before. Teams actually facilitates it because it’s so easy to set up a meeting time. I’m a big fan of chat as well. (In fact wish we had a better chat app like Slack.)

Another improvement on Teams is the ability to share documents and discuss in realtime. So much better and more collaborative than one person lecturing or working on hard copies. You can look up and resolve questions in real time.

I speak much more frequently with my colleagues now.

Exactly. If I have a quick question I see they are available and call. In the office, I wander to their office, hover outside to see if they are busy, awkwardly knock on the door … Most likely I’d just send an email instead if I didn’t have Teams!

For me, part of the downside of fully remote is the pace of work is much faster because people are so much more available but then the overall infrastructure is still slow so people get stuff done and it waits and waits until it all floods at once.

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Anonymous wrote:First, let me say I’m not a government worker, but a lifelong DC area resident. I am curious about how people view DC employment. Many came here for the jobs. Now they want to take the jobs. How does DC not become Detroit?

Because Executive branch/Congress/Judiciary ain't moving. When they do, detroit 2.0

So, DC can become Detroit?

DC actually had a net increase of population in 2022. It’s going to be fine. Economies change.

Y’all kinda sound like politicians. Say it’s gonna be fine but the exodus hadn’t happened yet! You don’t know what’s gonna happen. JC.

Look. If the federal government believes that part of its job is to force employees to commute into downtown DC, then they are going to have to pay employees to do that. That’s how labor markets work. That is why the Fed will unionize.

You’re making the public mad. You’re already paid to commute. Remember, the Fed didn’t cut your salary when they sent you home three years ago. You have been banking that savings for three years. Maybe it’s time you reimburse the Fed and your community.

You have a totally bizarre view of things. I think you’re just one of those federal worker haters.