TJ admissions decision - repercussions for Class of 2026

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Anonymous wrote:This is what our school board has been reduced to, trying to intimidate a 5ft women with security.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OH-2M-oPkU

I am an Indian mother who disagrees with the changes to the admissions process. This insane woman does not speak for me and my family and my culture. She is a cancer on education in Northern Virginia.

Please I beg of you, do not allow this monster to destroy your perception of us. We must fight this process and this school board but this woman is burning down the house for attention.

Asra's been on the right side of this issue from day one fighting. This video shows just how deplorable our school board is willing to act.

The video doesn’t show the School Board doing anything. It shows that she overstays her time - the video cuts off, conveniently, when this happens - and her shouting at security people who get nowhere near her.

Jeez. That woman would do anything tweets.

I find her courageous. She also deserves a victory lap.

All the rants against this Asian woman on here fighting discrimination (which has been proven in a court of law) is a proof that Asians will be stepped on but they are too afraid to do the same to the AA.

I am an Asian American woman who posted previously that I strongly disagree with her tactics and believe she is hurting the cause of fair admissions. I did not rant; I simply expressed my disagreement with her tactics.

To be fair, these are the types of tactics that get noticed. The struggles of civil rights and fights against racism have been successful because some have refused to remain polite - because being polite often gets you ignored by the racists.

They want Asians to be subservient and when they are, well you are too boring and when they are not, you are crazy insane lunatic.

No... she's behaving similarly to the anti-CRT ranters and those (mostly) white ladies are batshit as well. It's about the ugly behavior, not the race, but she knows like you do that the subservient Asian racist trope is an easy card to play to deflect any potential criticism of her outlandish arguments and inappropriate behavior. "Anything goes, and if you disagree you're an anti-Asian racist."

Sounds like she is behaving like a progressive. If you disagree with me, you are racist. See mirror.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is what our school board has been reduced to, trying to intimidate a 5ft women with security.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OH-2M-oPkU

I am an Indian mother who disagrees with the changes to the admissions process. This insane woman does not speak for me and my family and my culture. She is a cancer on education in Northern Virginia.

Please I beg of you, do not allow this monster to destroy your perception of us. We must fight this process and this school board but this woman is burning down the house for attention.

Asra's been on the right side of this issue from day one fighting. This video shows just how deplorable our school board is willing to act.

She fought for people like you, Indian mother. I disagree with her politics and her methods but man, she has courage. The board took 70% of the parents in TJ for granted and rode roughshod over them. If not for Asra and her group, God knows what other indignities you may have had to suffer. You don't need to agree with her but please - ask yourself what you have done to push back against changes that you didn't agree with.

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand why is this so hard to implement some process that is not subject to discrimination. The new changes are cleverly crafted so on paper, it may sound fine, but clearly intended to punish kids from academic focused families.

I don’t mind no testing, but why can’t we simply use grades from regular school years and may be teacher recommendations to allocate some min seats to each school pyramid or base school (so aap centers are not at disadvantage) and fill remaining from an open pool? There won’t be any bias here, but of course board clearly wanted to punish certain groups.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what our school board has been reduced to, trying to intimidate a 5ft women with security.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OH-2M-oPkU

I am an Indian mother who disagrees with the changes to the admissions process. This insane woman does not speak for me and my family and my culture. She is a cancer on education in Northern Virginia.

Please I beg of you, do not allow this monster to destroy your perception of us. We must fight this process and this school board but this woman is burning down the house for attention.

Asra's been on the right side of this issue from day one fighting. This video shows just how deplorable our school board is willing to act.

She fought for people like you, Indian mother. I disagree with her politics and her methods but man, she has courage. The board took 70% of the parents in TJ for granted and rode roughshod over them. If not for Asra and her group, God knows what other indignities you may have had to suffer. You don't need to agree with her but please - ask yourself what you have done to push back against changes that you didn't agree with.

+ 1000. Another Indian parent that, as a personal friend of Asra's agree with you. She fought for what she believed in both in the sphere of education and for muslim women's rights. Go Asra!

Also, the PP who called Asra a monster and that she does not speak for you.. Let me ask you this? When a White person says something, do you automatically assume she speaks for all White people? Why, then the assumption that Asra is speaking for all Indians? What are you ashamed of and why the emphasis that others should perceive you a certain way? Who the f' cares what White people think of you? Are you that insecure and feel so inferior?

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Who would have though that trying to break the cycle of low income Black and Hispanic underachievement would be derided as racist.

That attempts to reduce opportunity hoarding by rich people would be called unjust.

It’s truly absurd.

And looking at the numbers - there are MORE Asian students at TJ today than there were just a few years ago. And yet, that’s not enough.

With your logic, we need 20% of the fairfax school board members to be Asian; 20% of the fcps top administrators must be Asian; 20% of county judges must be Asian etc. It is a travesty that we have 0 when the county demographics show we need to have 20%.

That’s false. We are generally okay with the fact that TJ is trending toward a universe where it is approximately half-Asian.

We aren’t in any way seeking some perfect mirroring of society where each race is perfectly represented.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why is this so hard to implement some process that is not subject to discrimination. The new changes are cleverly crafted so on paper, it may sound fine, but clearly intended to punish kids from academic focused families.

I don’t mind no testing, but why can’t we simply use grades from regular school years and may be teacher recommendations to allocate some min seats to each school pyramid or base school (so aap centers are not at disadvantage) and fill remaining from an open pool? There won’t be any bias here, but of course board clearly wanted to punish certain groups.

Vast majority of pro-reform advocates - including me - would be totally fine with this.

Vast majority of anti-reform advocates would be against it, especially when compared to the old old process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what our school board has been reduced to, trying to intimidate a 5ft women with security.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OH-2M-oPkU

I am an Indian mother who disagrees with the changes to the admissions process. This insane woman does not speak for me and my family and my culture. She is a cancer on education in Northern Virginia.

Please I beg of you, do not allow this monster to destroy your perception of us. We must fight this process and this school board but this woman is burning down the house for attention.

Asra's been on the right side of this issue from day one fighting. This video shows just how deplorable our school board is willing to act.

She fought for people like you, Indian mother. I disagree with her politics and her methods but man, she has courage. The board took 70% of the parents in TJ for granted and rode roughshod over them. If not for Asra and her group, God knows what other indignities you may have had to suffer. You don't need to agree with her but please - ask yourself what you have done to push back against changes that you didn't agree with.

+ 1000. Another Indian parent that, as a personal friend of Asra's agree with you. She fought for what she believed in both in the sphere of education and for muslim women's rights. Go Asra!

Also, the PP who called Asra a monster and that she does not speak for you.. Let me ask you this? When a White person says something, do you automatically assume she speaks for all White people? Why, then the assumption that Asra is speaking for all Indians? What are you ashamed of and why the emphasis that others should perceive you a certain way? Who the f' cares what White people think of you? Are you that insecure and feel so inferior?

The poster you quoted said “She fought for you.”

She did not fight for me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what our school board has been reduced to, trying to intimidate a 5ft women with security.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OH-2M-oPkU

I am an Indian mother who disagrees with the changes to the admissions process. This insane woman does not speak for me and my family and my culture. She is a cancer on education in Northern Virginia.

Please I beg of you, do not allow this monster to destroy your perception of us. We must fight this process and this school board but this woman is burning down the house for attention.

Asra's been on the right side of this issue from day one fighting. This video shows just how deplorable our school board is willing to act.

She fought for people like you, Indian mother. I disagree with her politics and her methods but man, she has courage. The board took 70% of the parents in TJ for granted and rode roughshod over them. If not for Asra and her group, God knows what other indignities you may have had to suffer. You don't need to agree with her but please - ask yourself what you have done to push back against changes that you didn't agree with.

+ 1000. Another Indian parent that, as a personal friend of Asra's agree with you. She fought for what she believed in both in the sphere of education and for muslim women's rights. Go Asra!

Also, the PP who called Asra a monster and that she does not speak for you.. Let me ask you this? When a White person says something, do you automatically assume she speaks for all White people? Why, then the assumption that Asra is speaking for all Indians? What are you ashamed of and why the emphasis that others should perceive you a certain way? Who the f' cares what White people think of you? Are you that insecure and feel so inferior?

The poster you quoted said “She fought for you.”

She did not fight for me.

Ignore her then and move on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The hearing regarding the emergency stay request is Friday 3/11 at 10am

Below is the link to the brief filed by plaintiffs opposing the stay

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.505154/gov.uscourts.vaed.505154.148.0.pdf

I stopped reading when PLF made the argument that the Admissions Office was free to use the previous admissions process to select students instead of developing a new process. They plainly are not as two of the exams that were previously used no longer exist and developing a plan for assessing the Quant-Q, using it to cull a list of semifinalists, and then gathering teacher recommendations would almost certainly drive the process well into the fall.

I actually love the idea of transitioning TJ to a 10th-12th or even 11th-12th grade school. There are virtually no classes that freshman or sophomores take that are not offered at the base schools.

Just do not seat the class of 2026 until next year. Expand the other classes if needed using PSATs/GPAs.

Done, simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why is this so hard to implement some process that is not subject to discrimination. The new changes are cleverly crafted so on paper, it may sound fine, but clearly intended to punish kids from academic focused families.

I don’t mind no testing, but why can’t we simply use grades from regular school years and may be teacher recommendations to allocate some min seats to each school pyramid or base school (so aap centers are not at disadvantage) and fill remaining from an open pool? There won’t be any bias here, but of course board clearly wanted to punish certain groups.

How is this different from the current process?
They implemented the minimum seats to reduce the Asian numbers. Use geography as a proxy for race.
I'm not familiar with details of each school to know how good this is a proxy for race, though I know you can look at apartment prices in Herndon and identify the school ratings from that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why is this so hard to implement some process that is not subject to discrimination. The new changes are cleverly crafted so on paper, it may sound fine, but clearly intended to punish kids from academic focused families.

I don’t mind no testing, but why can’t we simply use grades from regular school years and may be teacher recommendations to allocate some min seats to each school pyramid or base school (so aap centers are not at disadvantage) and fill remaining from an open pool? There won’t be any bias here, but of course board clearly wanted to punish certain groups.

How is this different from the current process?
They implemented the minimum seats to reduce the Asian numbers. Use geography as a proxy for race.
I'm not familiar with details of each school to know how good this is a proxy for race, though I know you can look at apartment prices in Herndon and identify the school ratings from that.

It uses the Base school, not the attending school. Very very different from the new process and will not penalize kids that went to the AAP center.

I do like the PP ‘s idea to not seat the class of 2026 until next year and just expand the numbers that they admit for the sophomore and Junior rounds. There are so many kid that could benefit from the offerings at TJ and almost no freshmen take the TJ-only classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why is this so hard to implement some process that is not subject to discrimination. The new changes are cleverly crafted so on paper, it may sound fine, but clearly intended to punish kids from academic focused families.

I don’t mind no testing, but why can’t we simply use grades from regular school years and may be teacher recommendations to allocate some min seats to each school pyramid or base school (so aap centers are not at disadvantage) and fill remaining from an open pool? There won’t be any bias here, but of course board clearly wanted to punish certain groups.

How is this different from the current process?
They implemented the minimum seats to reduce the Asian numbers. Use geography as a proxy for race.
I'm not familiar with details of each school to know how good this is a proxy for race, though I know you can look at apartment prices in Herndon and identify the school ratings from that.

It uses the Base school, not the attending school. Very very different from the new process and will not penalize kids that went to the AAP center.

I do like the PP ‘s idea to not seat the class of 2026 until next year and just expand the numbers that they admit for the sophomore and Junior rounds. There are so many kid that could benefit from the offerings at TJ and almost no freshmen take the TJ-only classes.

It’s a really elegant solution. This would also likely be supported by Youngkin’s depart of education (who has tweeted support for the lawsuit) AND the Coalition for TJ. Give everything a year to shake out might be best.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what our school board has been reduced to, trying to intimidate a 5ft women with security.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OH-2M-oPkU

I am an Indian mother who disagrees with the changes to the admissions process. This insane woman does not speak for me and my family and my culture. She is a cancer on education in Northern Virginia.

Please I beg of you, do not allow this monster to destroy your perception of us. We must fight this process and this school board but this woman is burning down the house for attention.

Asra's been on the right side of this issue from day one fighting. This video shows just how deplorable our school board is willing to act.

The video doesn’t show the School Board doing anything. It shows that she overstays her time - the video cuts off, conveniently, when this happens - and her shouting at security people who get nowhere near her.

Jeez. That woman would do anything tweets.

I find her courageous. She also deserves a victory lap.

All the rants against this Asian woman on here fighting discrimination (which has been proven in a court of law) is a proof that Asians will be stepped on but they are too afraid to do the same to the AA.

I am an Asian American woman who posted previously that I strongly disagree with her tactics and believe she is hurting the cause of fair admissions. I did not rant; I simply expressed my disagreement with her tactics.

To be fair, these are the types of tactics that get noticed. The struggles of civil rights and fights against racism have been successful because some have refused to remain polite - because being polite often gets you ignored by the racists.

They want Asians to be subservient and when they are, well you are too boring and when they are not, you are crazy insane lunatic.

No... she's behaving similarly to the anti-CRT ranters and those (mostly) white ladies are batshit as well. It's about the ugly behavior, not the race, but she knows like you do that the subservient Asian racist trope is an easy card to play to deflect any potential criticism of her outlandish arguments and inappropriate behavior. "Anything goes, and if you disagree you're an anti-Asian racist."

That’s because she’s working with RWNJs who work for Cato Institute, etc. Legit Koch-bro affiliates.

She’s got the RWNJ hysteria down pat.

[Anonymous]

I like the of converting TJ to 10th-12th and being able to serve 33% more students through the program on the face of it, but do wonder if there are strong arguments against this that aren’t on my radar. I’d consider any argument about needing to form community or the minor disruption of a student spending 1 year at base HS to be weak arguments, but there may be stronger ones I’m overlooking. Anyone have we’ll-reasoned arguments against this type of change?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what our school board has been reduced to, trying to intimidate a 5ft women with security.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OH-2M-oPkU

I am an Indian mother who disagrees with the changes to the admissions process. This insane woman does not speak for me and my family and my culture. She is a cancer on education in Northern Virginia.

Please I beg of you, do not allow this monster to destroy your perception of us. We must fight this process and this school board but this woman is burning down the house for attention.

Asra's been on the right side of this issue from day one fighting. This video shows just how deplorable our school board is willing to act.

The video doesn’t show the School Board doing anything. It shows that she overstays her time - the video cuts off, conveniently, when this happens - and her shouting at security people who get nowhere near her.

Jeez. That woman would do anything tweets.

I find her courageous. She also deserves a victory lap.

All the rants against this Asian woman on here fighting discrimination (which has been proven in a court of law) is a proof that Asians will be stepped on but they are too afraid to do the same to the AA.

I am an Asian American woman who posted previously that I strongly disagree with her tactics and believe she is hurting the cause of fair admissions. I did not rant; I simply expressed my disagreement with her tactics.

To be fair, these are the types of tactics that get noticed. The struggles of civil rights and fights against racism have been successful because some have refused to remain polite - because being polite often gets you ignored by the racists.

They want Asians to be subservient and when they are, well you are too boring and when they are not, you are crazy insane lunatic.

No... she's behaving similarly to the anti-CRT ranters and those (mostly) white ladies are batshit as well. It's about the ugly behavior, not the race, but she knows like you do that the subservient Asian racist trope is an easy card to play to deflect any potential criticism of her outlandish arguments and inappropriate behavior. "Anything goes, and if you disagree you're an anti-Asian racist."

I didn't see any outlandish behavior on her part. I did see SB members and the police behaving inappropriately and intimidating the speaker and the SB members fleeing.