UMD College Park Results thread

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 4.7 weighted. 3.98 unweighted. 27 act. Upset.

ACT definitely not in line with GPA....red flag

This should not be a red flag. This will likely be my daughter next year. She has a slight learning disability but she excels in school because she is a very hard worker and is diligent. She just can’t seem to ace her standardized tests. Any school would be lucky to have her because she works hard and gets good grades.

It's not a red flag. A red flag is low GPA and high test scores -- not the other way around. Idiot.

why wouldn't it be a red flag either way? If I was an admissions officer I would 100% question a 4.7/27 as inflated grades.

Because no matter what you personally think even with grade inflation SAT scores do not measure intelligence they measure test taking skills standardized test are not a measure of anything unless you almost ace it. It was originally created to find geniuses but it morphed into a money making scheme to sell books and test prep.

The SAT had racist and antisemitic origins ( not to find geniuses).
The current College Board money making scheme and test prep cottage industry part is correct.

[Anonymous]

I imagine UMD is accepting the top 10% at each MD public high school, that may explain some of these high stats rejections.

Transferring in is much easier too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 4.7 weighted. 3.98 unweighted. 27 act. Upset.

ACT definitely not in line with GPA....red flag

This should not be a red flag. This will likely be my daughter next year. She has a slight learning disability but she excels in school because she is a very hard worker and is diligent. She just can’t seem to ace her standardized tests. Any school would be lucky to have her because she works hard and gets good grades.

UMD is test optional. Applicants don't have to submit standardized test scores, so no need to freak.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I imagine UMD is accepting the top 10% at each MD public high school, that may explain some of these high stats rejections.

Transferring in is much easier too.

Could they do that without announcing the change? That seems like too big a change to do without prior notice. The backlash would be insane.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if this will prove to be a mistake by umdcp - rejecting very strong MCPS candidates who would have likely attended. The tippy top may be more likely to go elsewhere. Or not - I don’t know these days. Scores have definitely been rising the past couple of years. It’ll be interesting to see.

Average SAT scores at UMD have definitely risen over the past decade. Selectivity has decreased every year as well. It used to be seen as a party school. I don't think that is as accurate any longer.

Many tippy top ARE attending UMD at least among my neighbors. Cost is big factor. If you aren’t qualifying for much or any need based aid, even if you do crack the code on acceptance to a T20, is it worth almost 80K a year X 4 years, by how many kids you have to put through college … especially if your kid wants to be an engineer or STEM field where the outcome would likely be the same no matter the school? Where they can get merit, the school may not be as strong as UMD for that field so financially it wouldn’t make sense to pick the other school.

The other issue is that these very high achieving students can't get into the top 20 schools. It is so incredibly competitive. Kids with the highest stats and amazing ECs are getting rejected from the top schools in the country. To gain admission these days you have to have started your own business that makes lots of money or has somehow become well known, conducted award winning research, achieved social media fame and the like. Ordinary tippy top kids pursuing kid-interests (think high school level sports and clubs) cannot gain admission anymore to the most elite institutions without connections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 4.7 weighted. 3.98 unweighted. 27 act. Upset.

ACT definitely not in line with GPA....red flag

This should not be a red flag. This will likely be my daughter next year. She has a slight learning disability but she excels in school because she is a very hard worker and is diligent. She just can’t seem to ace her standardized tests. Any school would be lucky to have her because she works hard and gets good grades.

UMD is test optional. Applicants don't have to submit standardized test scores, so no need to freak.

Yes, but think for a minute why tests are optional. It is to permit the process to admit a better demographic of students. But if you don’t contribute to the demographic percentage, then they will use scores to differentiate admits. Of course they don’t say that. But, hearing the admit status with and without test scores verified just that. In this day and age of grade inflation, getting a high GPA is easier and doesn’t necessarily differentiate the student for admissions. Submit those GPA with high test scores and you get in. Submit the GPA without test scores, then you are at the mercy of the admission demographics, and may or may not get in. Again, no one is talking about that for obvious reasons and we all prefer to think that tests are not important.

[Anonymous]

I see on MCPS website it says average composite SAT score last year was 1119, which was highest in state. That's not very high. There shouldn't be a MoCo penalty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 4.7 weighted. 3.98 unweighted. 27 act. Upset.

ACT definitely not in line with GPA....red flag

This should not be a red flag. This will likely be my daughter next year. She has a slight learning disability but she excels in school because she is a very hard worker and is diligent. She just can’t seem to ace her standardized tests. Any school would be lucky to have her because she works hard and gets good grades.

UMD is test optional. Applicants don't have to submit standardized test scores, so no need to freak.

Yes, but think for a minute why tests are optional. It is to permit the process to admit a better demographic of students. But if you don’t contribute to the demographic percentage, then they will use scores to differentiate admits. Of course they don’t say that. But, hearing the admit status with and without test scores verified just that. In this day and age of grade inflation, getting a high GPA is easier and doesn’t necessarily differentiate the student for admissions. Submit those GPA with high test scores and you get in. Submit the GPA without test scores, then you are at the mercy of the admission demographics, and may or may not get in. Again, no one is talking about that for obvious reasons and we all prefer to think that tests are not important.

And if you don’t submit your test, it’s assumed you are not in the top 85 percentile, as everyone with high test scores submits them!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 4.7 weighted. 3.98 unweighted. 27 act. Upset.

ACT definitely not in line with GPA....red flag

This should not be a red flag. This will likely be my daughter next year. She has a slight learning disability but she excels in school because she is a very hard worker and is diligent. She just can’t seem to ace her standardized tests. Any school would be lucky to have her because she works hard and gets good grades.

It's not a red flag. A red flag is low GPA and high test scores -- not the other way around. Idiot.

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why wouldn't it be a red flag either way? If I was an admissions officer I would 100% question a 4.7/27 as inflated grades.

Because no matter what you personally think even with grade inflation SAT scores do not measure intelligence they measure test taking skills standardized test are not a measure of anything unless you almost ace it. It was originally created to find geniuses but it morphed into a money making scheme to sell books and test prep.

Actually the math section of the SAT has a strong correlation with intelligence.

Nope.

Not if you have adhd, and it's the last section on a 6 hour test!

Also, not if you've taken prep classes and tutoring geared to teaching how to do well with the content.

Also, not in a host of other circumstances. Just no. The SAT tests how well you take the SAT. Intelligence is only 1 of many factors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 4.7 weighted. 3.98 unweighted. 27 act. Upset.

ACT definitely not in line with GPA....red flag

This should not be a red flag. This will likely be my daughter next year. She has a slight learning disability but she excels in school because she is a very hard worker and is diligent. She just can’t seem to ace her standardized tests. Any school would be lucky to have her because she works hard and gets good grades.

UMD is test optional. Applicants don't have to submit standardized test scores, so no need to freak.

Yes, but think for a minute why tests are optional. It is to permit the process to admit a better demographic of students. But if you don’t contribute to the demographic percentage, then they will use scores to differentiate admits. Of course they don’t say that. But, hearing the admit status with and without test scores verified just that. In this day and age of grade inflation, getting a high GPA is easier and doesn’t necessarily differentiate the student for admissions. Submit those GPA with high test scores and you get in. Submit the GPA without test scores, then you are at the mercy of the admission demographics, and may or may not get in. Again, no one is talking about that for obvious reasons and we all prefer to think that tests are not important.

This year a Boston College admissions officer told the audience on a webinar that you should submit SAT only if 1430 or above. So some schools are upfront about wanting to jimmy their stats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 4.7 weighted. 3.98 unweighted. 27 act. Upset.

ACT definitely not in line with GPA....red flag

This should not be a red flag. This will likely be my daughter next year. She has a slight learning disability but she excels in school because she is a very hard worker and is diligent. She just can’t seem to ace her standardized tests. Any school would be lucky to have her because she works hard and gets good grades.

UMD is test optional. Applicants don't have to submit standardized test scores, so no need to freak.

Yes, but think for a minute why tests are optional. It is to permit the process to admit a better demographic of students. But if you don’t contribute to the demographic percentage, then they will use scores to differentiate admits. Of course they don’t say that. But, hearing the admit status with and without test scores verified just that. In this day and age of grade inflation, getting a high GPA is easier and doesn’t necessarily differentiate the student for admissions. Submit those GPA with high test scores and you get in. Submit the GPA without test scores, then you are at the mercy of the admission demographics, and may or may not get in. Again, no one is talking about that for obvious reasons and we all prefer to think that tests are not important.

This year a Boston College admissions officer told the audience on a webinar that you should submit SAT only if 1430 or above. So some schools are upfront about wanting to jimmy their stats.

My point exactly. If you don’t submit they assume you are not above that number and will make the decision based on your gpa, etc. and a test score lower than that test standard. If you are not in an under represented demographic, it lessens your chances by not submitting or taking the rest. But admissions will not say that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if this will prove to be a mistake by umdcp - rejecting very strong MCPS candidates who would have likely attended. The tippy top may be more likely to go elsewhere. Or not - I don’t know these days. Scores have definitely been rising the past couple of years. It’ll be interesting to see.

Average SAT scores at UMD have definitely risen over the past decade. Selectivity has decreased every year as well. It used to be seen as a party school. I don't think that is as accurate any longer.

Many tippy top ARE attending UMD at least among my neighbors. Cost is big factor. If you aren’t qualifying for much or any need based aid, even if you do crack the code on acceptance to a T20, is it worth almost 80K a year X 4 years, by how many kids you have to put through college … especially if your kid wants to be an engineer or STEM field where the outcome would likely be the same no matter the school? Where they can get merit, the school may not be as strong as UMD for that field so financially it wouldn’t make sense to pick the other school.

The other issue is that these very high achieving students can't get into the top 20 schools. It is so incredibly competitive. Kids with the highest stats and amazing ECs are getting rejected from the top schools in the country. To gain admission these days you have to have started your own business that makes lots of money or has somehow become well known, conducted award winning research, achieved social media fame and the like. Ordinary tippy top kids pursuing kid-interests (think high school level sports and clubs) cannot gain admission anymore to the most elite institutions without connections.

The reason is that admissions offers only go to less than 10% of applicants. They can have no research, no businesses, no social media but be 1st generation college attendee, raised on a farm out in Arkansas and volunteered at church every week for 4 years. You should be more aware of the actual profiles of these kids, they're not who you're saying they are, those kids are just the DMV crowd who are forced to make some extra effort to stand out. It doesn't always pay off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 4.7 weighted. 3.98 unweighted. 27 act. Upset.

ACT definitely not in line with GPA....red flag

This should not be a red flag. This will likely be my daughter next year. She has a slight learning disability but she excels in school because she is a very hard worker and is diligent. She just can’t seem to ace her standardized tests. Any school would be lucky to have her because she works hard and gets good grades.

It's not a red flag. A red flag is low GPA and high test scores -- not the other way around. Idiot.

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why wouldn't it be a red flag either way? If I was an admissions officer I would 100% question a 4.7/27 as inflated grades.

Because no matter what you personally think even with grade inflation SAT scores do not measure intelligence they measure test taking skills standardized test are not a measure of anything unless you almost ace it. It was originally created to find geniuses but it morphed into a money making scheme to sell books and test prep.

Actually the math section of the SAT has a strong correlation with intelligence.

Nope.

Not if you have adhd, and it's the last section on a 6 hour test!

Also, not if you've taken prep classes and tutoring geared to teaching how to do well with the content.

Also, not in a host of other circumstances. Just no. The SAT tests how well you take the SAT. Intelligence is only 1 of many factors.

"Just no?" Are you for real? I picture you stomping your feet and crossing your arms. "No! It doesn't work out for me and my littel snowflake, so NO! NO, NO, NO!"
Sorry your kid has been able to get teachers to give them the benefit of the doubt and plenty of "second chances" and "extra time" but that shouldn't cut it in the real world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Accepted to Honors! very happy

3.98/4.84 GPA from magnet program.

SAT 1590, ACT 36

national merit scholarship semifinal

international, national awards ( all major related).

national award for creative ideas (also major related)

several community service awards (close to 1000 SSL)

headship awards


Asian, female in state, need financial aid.

Why not go for the ivies if qualified for FA?

Not first gen, family income not lower enough to qualify for QB, which is $65,000 annually for a typical family of four, and again ASIAN does not belong to URM group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Accepted to Honors! very happy

3.98/4.84 GPA from magnet program.

SAT 1590, ACT 36

national merit scholarship semifinal

international, national awards ( all major related).

national award for creative ideas (also major related)

several community service awards (close to 1000 SSL)

headship awards


Asian, female in state, need financial aid.

Why not go for the ivies if qualified for FA?

Not first gen, family income not lower enough to qualify for QB, which is $65,000 annually for a typical family of four, and again ASIAN does not belong to URM group.

Ivies meet 100% of financial need without regard to merit or status. Have you run the calculators? Can you afford what they say you’ll owe?