Is there no Encanto thread?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll have to watch it again.

Bruno character is not a cut and dry victim or family scapegoat.
Since many of his visions turned out untrue (unrequited love) or too vague (maribels role) and others seemed like pranks (rain! Oh you thought about rain and made it rain!) or unnecessary (fyi your pet dies tomorrow! Yours gonna get fat someday!), it’s hard to know. Plus we don’t know what age he was doing any of this.

And was his tunnel door thing the magic door the house gave him upon his ceremony?? That’s f’d up.

The movie and narratives (songs and dialogs) covered a lot of territory.

I took those as a reflection of how shallow and simple the villagers were. They had a great life because the Madrigals did everything for them Like did they really need Luisa to constantly round up the donkeys? Why couldn't they do it themselves? Why didn't they fix the fence? Or why did they need the river re-routed, rather than just carrying water like everyone else in the world? Did they really need the church moved over a few feet for convenience?

Since they had no real worries or troubles, they were self-absorbed and only cared about dumb things like goldfish and weight. So there was really nothing else that could be a prophecy, since there was so little going on in their lives.

I would have liked to see more of the villagers' character arc, where they realize they have been taking advantage and learn to be more self-sufficient. It could have been developed more than just helping them build the house, like they realize they can't rely on Luisa for everything, they need to be more careful and not rely on Julieta to fix their ailments, etc.

I think the point was Abuela thought the magic built the family and the community when it’s family and community that created the magic. Maribel’s gift really was saving the miracle, family, and community. She was on the family door at the end.

But can’t she get a room of her own???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact that there is so much debate and so many interpretations proves that the movie was convoluted. We are all left wondering “huh?”

…because all good movies have a single straightforward interpretation? Okay then.

The plot was simple but the meaning is complex and open to discussion. That’s what makes it such a good movie, and why a bunch of presumed adults are all enjoying discussing it. A real jewel for Disney’s crown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll have to watch it again.

Bruno character is not a cut and dry victim or family scapegoat.
Since many of his visions turned out untrue (unrequited love) or too vague (maribels role) and others seemed like pranks (rain! Oh you thought about rain and made it rain!) or unnecessary (fyi your pet dies tomorrow! Yours gonna get fat someday!), it’s hard to know. Plus we don’t know what age he was doing any of this.

And was his tunnel door thing the magic door the house gave him upon his ceremony?? That’s f’d up.

The movie and narratives (songs and dialogs) covered a lot of territory.

I took those as a reflection of how shallow and simple the villagers were. They had a great life because the Madrigals did everything for them Like did they really need Luisa to constantly round up the donkeys? Why couldn't they do it themselves? Why didn't they fix the fence? Or why did they need the river re-routed, rather than just carrying water like everyone else in the world? Did they really need the church moved over a few feet for convenience?

Since they had no real worries or troubles, they were self-absorbed and only cared about dumb things like goldfish and weight. So there was really nothing else that could be a prophecy, since there was so little going on in their lives.

I would have liked to see more of the villagers' character arc, where they realize they have been taking advantage and learn to be more self-sufficient. It could have been developed more than just helping them build the house, like they realize they can't rely on Luisa for everything, they need to be more careful and not rely on Julieta to fix their ailments, etc.

I think the point was Abuela thought the magic built the family and the community when it’s family and community that created the magic. Maribel’s gift really was saving the miracle, family, and community. She was on the family door at the end.

Yes, well-put! Maribel taught Abuela that the gift was their family - which was really Pedro’s gift.

And my wife agrees with you, she was yelling “tie up your damn donkeys!” 😂

[Anonymous]

Sorry just realized that I mixed up two posters there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll have to watch it again.

Bruno character is not a cut and dry victim or family scapegoat.
Since many of his visions turned out untrue (unrequited love) or too vague (maribels role) and others seemed like pranks (rain! Oh you thought about rain and made it rain!) or unnecessary (fyi your pet dies tomorrow! Yours gonna get fat someday!), it’s hard to know. Plus we don’t know what age he was doing any of this.

And was his tunnel door thing the magic door the house gave him upon his ceremony?? That’s f’d up.

The movie and narratives (songs and dialogs) covered a lot of territory.

I took those as a reflection of how shallow and simple the villagers were. They had a great life because the Madrigals did everything for them Like did they really need Luisa to constantly round up the donkeys? Why couldn't they do it themselves? Why didn't they fix the fence? Or why did they need the river re-routed, rather than just carrying water like everyone else in the world? Did they really need the church moved over a few feet for convenience?

Since they had no real worries or troubles, they were self-absorbed and only cared about dumb things like goldfish and weight. So there was really nothing else that could be a prophecy, since there was so little going on in their lives.

I would have liked to see more of the villagers' character arc, where they realize they have been taking advantage and learn to be more self-sufficient. It could have been developed more than just helping them build the house, like they realize they can't rely on Luisa for everything, they need to be more careful and not rely on Julieta to fix their ailments, etc.

I think the point was Abuela thought the magic built the family and the community when it’s family and community that created the magic. Maribel’s gift really was saving the miracle, family, and community. She was on the family door at the end.

But can’t she get a room of her own???

No one has a room with their name on it at the end. Just one has an image—the front door with the family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that there is so much debate and so many interpretations proves that the movie was convoluted. We are all left wondering “huh?”

…because all good movies have a single straightforward interpretation? Okay then.

The plot was simple but the meaning is complex and open to discussion. That’s what makes it such a good movie, and why a bunch of presumed adults are all enjoying discussing it. A real jewel for Disney’s crown.

Agreed, a many layered movie, like the many layers of "we don't talk about Bruno." The songs grow on me more and more each time I hear them.

[Anonymous]

It was decent. I liked a lot of the songs and I agree the overarching message about allowing people to make mistakes and not be perfect is good.

But I actually feel the hit you over the head with the emotion too hard. It was a bit much for my kid and I think it feels like they are trying too hard to be a tearjerker. It takes me out of it. I also just wish there were more kids movies where the main characters didn't have a terrible tragic backstory involving the death of a parent. I think it's weird that this is their formula. It's a weird thing to keep hitting kids with. We are definitely not going to rewatch this one -- my kid found the ending sad and was only partly encouraged by the happy part. It's just a lot of dark stuff for kids under the age of 10. But... that's Disney I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was decent. I liked a lot of the songs and I agree the overarching message about allowing people to make mistakes and not be perfect is good.

But I actually feel the hit you over the head with the emotion too hard. It was a bit much for my kid and I think it feels like they are trying too hard to be a tearjerker. It takes me out of it. I also just wish there were more kids movies where the main characters didn't have a terrible tragic backstory involving the death of a parent. I think it's weird that this is their formula. It's a weird thing to keep hitting kids with. We are definitely not going to rewatch this one -- my kid found the ending sad and was only partly encouraged by the happy part. It's just a lot of dark stuff for kids under the age of 10. But... that's Disney I guess.

But both her parents were alive... And supportive!

I actually said out loud while watching "finally! The main character's mother doesn't die!"

[Anonymous]

I just realized yesterday that in The Family Madrigal she is NOT singing "Pancake Round up!" Though my son said he likes my version better, LOL.

[Anonymous]

Bruno is definitely not seven feet tall, so maybe, just maybe, everyone is exaggerating about him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bruno is definitely not seven feet tall, so maybe, just maybe, everyone is exaggerating about him?

He was most certainly not 7 feet tall. And rats along his back?? Wasn’t he hanging out with the rats because he was hiding between the walls? When he was living with them in his cave room and not with the rats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was decent. I liked a lot of the songs and I agree the overarching message about allowing people to make mistakes and not be perfect is good.

But I actually feel the hit you over the head with the emotion too hard. It was a bit much for my kid and I think it feels like they are trying too hard to be a tearjerker. It takes me out of it. I also just wish there were more kids movies where the main characters didn't have a terrible tragic backstory involving the death of a parent. I think it's weird that this is their formula. It's a weird thing to keep hitting kids with. We are definitely not going to rewatch this one -- my kid found the ending sad and was only partly encouraged by the happy part. It's just a lot of dark stuff for kids under the age of 10. But... that's Disney I guess.

what was sad about the ending? I’ve watched it twice and my 9yo had seen it 3 times. She said the Grandma was mean in treating her differently because of no gift. But didn’t think ending was sad.

[Anonymous]

What was the point of the shape shifting cousin? I don’t feel like he added anything to the story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What was the point of the shape shifting cousin? I don’t feel like he added anything to the story.

I think he was there just to emphasize points and remind us of characters. That's it.

[Anonymous]

The grandmother didn’t have any powers, did she?