Does Council bill just let people keep their kids home and not educate them?

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Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

That is an entirely separate issue but why don't you go spend some time volunteering if you are so concerned. We had every intention of keeping our child home if we didn't get into VA. The school refused to work with us so I am not bothering to do their homeschooling paperwork when they refuse to help us keep our child safe and give them an appropriate education. You may not think covid is a big deal but it is to some of us and not worth the risk.

That is some amazingly entitled crap. Just homeschool. And if you don’t, I hope CPS looks into you and opens a case.

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I am PP and the school refused to help you keep your kid safe? So now you support legislation that prevents other kids from being safe from abuse and neglect? You are entitled and self centered.

And as a side note I work in a high FARMS school so I spend ‘some time’ with kids every day. And I am very concerned. And knowing there are people who can only imagine their own situation in life makes me more concerned.

I did my time working for several different cps agencies as well as private foster care. I have put in my time helping other peoples kids. My kids are not abused or neglected and at the highest levels in all classes as we have always worked with them. Send cps my way. I can say hi to old coworkers. Maybe if you did your job better they would not be so behind. In all our elementary school years we only had one good teacher. Parents have a right to their kids being safe. Without weekly or twice weekly testing, distancing and more, mine will not be returning in person any time soon. Teachers should be embarrassed that they do things like putting the desks with no spacing. Or, the child in VA who was being used as a student nurse and got Covid and died.

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Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

That is an entirely separate issue but why don't you go spend some time volunteering if you are so concerned. We had every intention of keeping our child home if we didn't get into VA. The school refused to work with us so I am not bothering to do their homeschooling paperwork when they refuse to help us keep our child safe and give them an appropriate education. You may not think covid is a big deal but it is to some of us and not worth the risk.

So you aren’t homeschooling and not giving your kid an education out of not getting your way with public school?

You know you are a reason why CPS exists.

I worked for multiple different cps. No, they will not care. We can homeschool without registering them as that. If the school system refuses to provide us with an education then it is none of their business what we do.

You are horrifying.

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Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

You don’t even know what this legislation says, as evidenced by the past 12 pages. Spare me the lectures.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you writing the council need to know that they're acting how they're acting because they have heard from so many MORE of us whose children are in unsafe schools, taking inadequate COVID precautions, and using the threat of CPS to coerce silence families who are frightened to send their children. I'm truly repulsed by those of you who are shouting "privilege" at us even as you send your kids off to your very safe charter or safe public. Its not even in this city, it's not even close, and you need to check YOUR privilege. POC are carrying the brunt of this illness and white people should stop trying to talk for them and stop trying to suggest that a family who is keeping their child home in fear is somehow not equipped to make that decision, and need YOU to make the decision for them. That's a terrible thing to do to people who can and are speaking for themselves.

+1 the DCUM echo chamber isn’t real (and frankly is probably filled with folks who don’t even live in the district.

I know it's hard to come to grips with the fact that you created legal child abuse. But you did, Jan. It's real.

Spoken like someone who has no idea what child abuse really is. There’s the real privilege.

Yeah, Jan. I do. That's why this portion of the bill is so foul. Scream all you want.

I don’t need to scream. Elected officials are listening to me. [shrug]

Privileged much?

It's grotesque that you are all gloating about legalizing child abuse.

There are not enough eye rolls on the internet for this but I’ll try.

Explain to me how we will catch cases of educational neglect now.

The school will report it. Just like they do now.

What? To whom? They can't get CPS involved if the family says they're keeping the kids out of school bc of COVID.

Apparently you can’t read. The school can still report to CPS. This just gives them the choice not to. For a very short period of time.

you are reading the wrong paragraph about absences due to quarantine. look at the one above it about excused absences. excused absences are not a basis for triggering reports to cps.

No. You’re reading the resolution. Not the actual legislation.

Can you link to that?

https://lims.dccouncil.us/downloads/LIMS/47923/Meeting1/Enrollment/B24-0403-Enrollment3.pdf

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Can you link to that?

https://lims.dccouncil.us/downloads/LIMS/47923/Meeting1/Enrollment/B24-0403-Enrollment3.pdf

So please explain the difference between the signed resolution versus this, in terms of which takes precedent.

Also this does not include the specific language in the OP quoted resolution, but does allow for schools to permit any absence as excused. It seems to apply to short term scenarios here (family members being close contacts, etc). What would stop the back door virtual option person from just saying her family was in close contact repeatedly until January (or beyond)?

Yeah I don’t see how this changes anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

That is an entirely separate issue but why don't you go spend some time volunteering if you are so concerned. We had every intention of keeping our child home if we didn't get into VA. The school refused to work with us so I am not bothering to do their homeschooling paperwork when they refuse to help us keep our child safe and give them an appropriate education. You may not think covid is a big deal but it is to some of us and not worth the risk.

So you aren’t homeschooling and not giving your kid an education out of not getting your way with public school?

You know you are a reason why CPS exists.

I worked for multiple different cps. No, they will not care. We can homeschool without registering them as that. If the school system refuses to provide us with an education then it is none of their business what we do.

I’m sorry. Refusing to fill out paperwork out of spite isn’t the great argument you think it is.

Also 1. Highly doubt you ever worked for CPS. 2. CPS clearly has cared, since they’ve investigated 90+ people for educational neglect and referred 30 for closer inspection.

CPS SHOULD investigate you and all parents with kids who don’t attend. If you’re providing an education, the investigation will be dropped. But this is how we find the parents who are not.

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Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

That is an entirely separate issue but why don't you go spend some time volunteering if you are so concerned. We had every intention of keeping our child home if we didn't get into VA. The school refused to work with us so I am not bothering to do their homeschooling paperwork when they refuse to help us keep our child safe and give them an appropriate education. You may not think covid is a big deal but it is to some of us and not worth the risk.

So you aren’t homeschooling and not giving your kid an education out of not getting your way with public school?

You know you are a reason why CPS exists.

I worked for multiple different cps. No, they will not care. We can homeschool without registering them as that. If the school system refuses to provide us with an education then it is none of their business what we do.

Well there are 92 open cases about people who are doing what you are doing, so it seems like CPS is caring.

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Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

That is an entirely separate issue but why don't you go spend some time volunteering if you are so concerned. We had every intention of keeping our child home if we didn't get into VA. The school refused to work with us so I am not bothering to do their homeschooling paperwork when they refuse to help us keep our child safe and give them an appropriate education. You may not think covid is a big deal but it is to some of us and not worth the risk.

That is some amazingly entitled crap. Just homeschool. And if you don’t, I hope CPS looks into you and opens a case.

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I am PP and the school refused to help you keep your kid safe? So now you support legislation that prevents other kids from being safe from abuse and neglect? You are entitled and self centered.

And as a side note I work in a high FARMS school so I spend ‘some time’ with kids every day. And I am very concerned. And knowing there are people who can only imagine their own situation in life makes me more concerned.

I did my time working for several different cps agencies as well as private foster care. I have put in my time helping other peoples kids. My kids are not abused or neglected and at the highest levels in all classes as we have always worked with them. Send cps my way. I can say hi to old coworkers. Maybe if you did your job better they would not be so behind. In all our elementary school years we only had one good teacher. Parents have a right to their kids being safe. Without weekly or twice weekly testing, distancing and more, mine will not be returning in person any time soon. Teachers should be embarrassed that they do things like putting the desks with no spacing. Or, the child in VA who was being used as a student nurse and got Covid and died.

Oh okay. You’re a troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

That is an entirely separate issue but why don't you go spend some time volunteering if you are so concerned. We had every intention of keeping our child home if we didn't get into VA. The school refused to work with us so I am not bothering to do their homeschooling paperwork when they refuse to help us keep our child safe and give them an appropriate education. You may not think covid is a big deal but it is to some of us and not worth the risk.

That is some amazingly entitled crap. Just homeschool. And if you don’t, I hope CPS looks into you and opens a case.

+1

I am PP and the school refused to help you keep your kid safe? So now you support legislation that prevents other kids from being safe from abuse and neglect? You are entitled and self centered.

And as a side note I work in a high FARMS school so I spend ‘some time’ with kids every day. And I am very concerned. And knowing there are people who can only imagine their own situation in life makes me more concerned.

I did my time working for several different cps agencies as well as private foster care. I have put in my time helping other peoples kids. My kids are not abused or neglected and at the highest levels in all classes as we have always worked with them. Send cps my way. I can say hi to old coworkers. Maybe if you did your job better they would not be so behind. In all our elementary school years we only had one good teacher. Parents have a right to their kids being safe. Without weekly or twice weekly testing, distancing and more, mine will not be returning in person any time soon. Teachers should be embarrassed that they do things like putting the desks with no spacing. Or, the child in VA who was being used as a student nurse and got Covid and died.

I assume you are homeschooling, since you have no reason not to. You don’t seem to like the school you are at (or any public education your kids have received) so it seems like you have no special devotion to your school (eg your charter or OOB spot). Are you the same person who just isn’t filing homeschool paperwork out of spite? To burden your school and old coworkers?

Man you guys really are bad at conveying you are on the side of good.

[Anonymous]

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Can you link to that?

https://lims.dccouncil.us/downloads/LIMS/47923/Meeting1/Enrollment/B24-0403-Enrollment3.pdf

So please explain the difference between the signed resolution versus this, in terms of which takes precedent.

Also this does not include the specific language in the OP quoted resolution, but does allow for schools to permit any absence as excused. It seems to apply to short term scenarios here (family members being close contacts, etc). What would stop the back door virtual option person from just saying her family was in close contact repeatedly until January (or beyond)?

Yeah I don’t see how this changes anything.

The resolution is just Blah Blah Blah (it paves the way to pass the legislation). The legislation is the actual changes to the law.

[Anonymous]

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Can you link to that?

https://lims.dccouncil.us/downloads/LIMS/47923/Meeting1/Enrollment/B24-0403-Enrollment3.pdf

So please explain the difference between the signed resolution versus this, in terms of which takes precedent.

Also this does not include the specific language in the OP quoted resolution, but does allow for schools to permit any absence as excused. It seems to apply to short term scenarios here (family members being close contacts, etc). What would stop the back door virtual option person from just saying her family was in close contact repeatedly until January (or beyond)?

Yeah I don’t see how this changes anything.

The resolution is just Blah Blah Blah (it paves the way to pass the legislation). The legislation is the actual changes to the law.

the legislation shifts discretion onto the school which now means entitled parents will harass the school when they feel it is “unsafe” for arbitrary reasons, likely also meaning that the parents will pressure the school for special treatment like worksheets sent home etc. It also authorizes parents to keep kids home even if they are vaccinated but not sick if there is a close contact at home. Next step is they will try to pressure DCPS to force vaccinated kids to quarantine…

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I wrote to my councilman. Please reach out. This is simply wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

You don’t even know what this legislation says, as evidenced by the past 12 pages. Spare me the lectures.

Please enlighten us since all of us clearly don't know what the legislation says and you are the expert here. I can't wait to read how I am wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

You don’t even know what this legislation says, as evidenced by the past 12 pages. Spare me the lectures.

Please enlighten us since all of us clearly don't know what the legislation says and you are the expert here. I can't wait to read how I am wrong.

the legislation effectively says principal’s hands are tied if parents claim the are keeping their kids home due to “safety concerns.”

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are there teachers or social workers here who could answer the following:

Suppose you have a child that is just not showing up for school, and yet is enrolled in that school. What is the process? At what point is that child reported by the school to CFS?

Once reported to CFS, what happens?

Under this new legislation, what would change?