Does Council bill just let people keep their kids home and not educate them?

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you writing the council need to know that they're acting how they're acting because they have heard from so many MORE of us whose children are in unsafe schools, taking inadequate COVID precautions, and using the threat of CPS to coerce silence families who are frightened to send their children. I'm truly repulsed by those of you who are shouting "privilege" at us even as you send your kids off to your very safe charter or safe public. Its not even in this city, it's not even close, and you need to check YOUR privilege. POC are carrying the brunt of this illness and white people should stop trying to talk for them and stop trying to suggest that a family who is keeping their child home in fear is somehow not equipped to make that decision, and need YOU to make the decision for them. That's a terrible thing to do to people who can and are speaking for themselves.

+1 the DCUM echo chamber isn’t real (and frankly is probably filled with folks who don’t even live in the district.

I know it's hard to come to grips with the fact that you created legal child abuse. But you did, Jan. It's real.

Spoken like someone who has no idea what child abuse really is. There’s the real privilege.

Yeah, Jan. I do. That's why this portion of the bill is so foul. Scream all you want.

I don’t need to scream. Elected officials are listening to me. [shrug]

Privileged much?

It's grotesque that you are all gloating about legalizing child abuse.

There are not enough eye rolls on the internet for this but I’ll try.

Explain to me how we will catch cases of educational neglect now.

The school will report it. Just like they do now.

What? To whom? They can't get CPS involved if the family says they're keeping the kids out of school bc of COVID.

Apparently you can’t read. The school can still report to CPS. This just gives them the choice not to. For a very short period of time.

you are reading the wrong paragraph about absences due to quarantine. look at the one above it about excused absences. excused absences are not a basis for triggering reports to cps.

No. You’re reading the resolution. Not the actual legislation.

Can you link to that?

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you writing the council need to know that they're acting how they're acting because they have heard from so many MORE of us whose children are in unsafe schools, taking inadequate COVID precautions, and using the threat of CPS to coerce silence families who are frightened to send their children. I'm truly repulsed by those of you who are shouting "privilege" at us even as you send your kids off to your very safe charter or safe public. Its not even in this city, it's not even close, and you need to check YOUR privilege. POC are carrying the brunt of this illness and white people should stop trying to talk for them and stop trying to suggest that a family who is keeping their child home in fear is somehow not equipped to make that decision, and need YOU to make the decision for them. That's a terrible thing to do to people who can and are speaking for themselves.

+1 the DCUM echo chamber isn’t real (and frankly is probably filled with folks who don’t even live in the district.

I know it's hard to come to grips with the fact that you created legal child abuse. But you did, Jan. It's real.

Spoken like someone who has no idea what child abuse really is. There’s the real privilege.

Yeah, Jan. I do. That's why this portion of the bill is so foul. Scream all you want.

I don’t need to scream. Elected officials are listening to me. [shrug]

Privileged much?

It's grotesque that you are all gloating about legalizing child abuse.

There are not enough eye rolls on the internet for this but I’ll try.

Explain to me how we will catch cases of educational neglect now.

The school will report it. Just like they do now.

What? To whom? They can't get CPS involved if the family says they're keeping the kids out of school bc of COVID.

Apparently you can’t read. The school can still report to CPS. This just gives them the choice not to. For a very short period of time.

you are reading the wrong paragraph about absences due to quarantine. look at the one above it about excused absences. excused absences are not a basis for triggering reports to cps.

No. You’re reading the resolution. Not the actual legislation.

Can you link to that?

Please point to the part of the legislation that says “a school will still notify CFS if a student does not attend school without a medical reason” or something like it?

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I’m lost as to what the people who are keeping their kids home but do not have a medical reason think the outcome should be? Apparently they think they should be allowed to do that, without having CPS check out what’s happening, and they don’t have to apply to homeschool or do virtual school? Why would they think this is ok?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m lost as to what the people who are keeping their kids home but do not have a medical reason think the outcome should be? Apparently they think they should be allowed to do that, without having CPS check out what’s happening, and they don’t have to apply to homeschool or do virtual school? Why would they think this is ok?

If they’re not doing anything wrong, it’s no big deal. But CPS investigations into missing children have apparently found 30 serious cases. We can’t abandon some kids like that just bc some wealthy white parent is embarrassed to answer a couple of questions from CPS.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m lost as to what the people who are keeping their kids home but do not have a medical reason think the outcome should be? Apparently they think they should be allowed to do that, without having CPS check out what’s happening, and they don’t have to apply to homeschool or do virtual school? Why would they think this is ok?

If they’re not doing anything wrong, it’s no big deal. But CPS investigations into missing children have apparently found 30 serious cases. We can’t abandon some kids like that just bc some wealthy white parent is embarrassed to answer a couple of questions from CPS.

But I have this correct that the wealthy white parents don’t want cps to come to their door, so they pushed for legislation that says CPS won’t investigate this? Why would they do that? Surely they could see the ramifications that would have on actual children who are being neglected?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m lost as to what the people who are keeping their kids home but do not have a medical reason think the outcome should be? Apparently they think they should be allowed to do that, without having CPS check out what’s happening, and they don’t have to apply to homeschool or do virtual school? Why would they think this is ok?

because they believe they are morally superior because they are more covid cautious and therefore should be granted special treatment.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m lost as to what the people who are keeping their kids home but do not have a medical reason think the outcome should be? Apparently they think they should be allowed to do that, without having CPS check out what’s happening, and they don’t have to apply to homeschool or do virtual school? Why would they think this is ok?

because they believe they are morally superior because they are more covid cautious and therefore should be granted special treatment.

Why would the Council agree with them?

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Anonymous wrote:This is really scary. I work as a case manager with DC Medicaid. School is extremely protective for thousands of DC kids--it gives them food, daily structure (and time away from the chaos at home) and in some cases keeps them away from actual physical harm.

I have no idea what the council is thinking. This is going to be devastating to many DC kids whose parents don't or can't have their kids' best interest at heart. I know it's hard to imagine this but many parents make daily and long-term decisions that harm their kids. We saw this in the pandemic--tons of kids who were not schooled at all because there was no-one in the home to login them on, there were many parents who sold the school-owned devices, etc. And this was just the educational neglect (there is physical neglect, abuse, etc).

Truly, I doubt the families you are speaking of are paying attention to Council legislation. And I doubt highly they want to deal with their kids any longer than they have to.

There are a lot of kids of all ages in this city that miss an inordinate amount of school. Their parents either aren’t home so there is no one to make the kid go, or an older kid has to stay home to watch a young sibling or cousin or the parents just don’t care if the kid goes to school. It is common unfortunately in normal times and I fear this legislation will allow some very vulnerable kids to totally fall through the cracks.

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To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

That is an entirely separate issue but why don't you go spend some time volunteering if you are so concerned. We had every intention of keeping our child home if we didn't get into VA. The school refused to work with us so I am not bothering to do their homeschooling paperwork when they refuse to help us keep our child safe and give them an appropriate education. You may not think covid is a big deal but it is to some of us and not worth the risk.

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Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

That is an entirely separate issue but why don't you go spend some time volunteering if you are so concerned. We had every intention of keeping our child home if we didn't get into VA. The school refused to work with us so I am not bothering to do their homeschooling paperwork when they refuse to help us keep our child safe and give them an appropriate education. You may not think covid is a big deal but it is to some of us and not worth the risk.

So you aren’t homeschooling and not giving your kid an education out of not getting your way with public school?

You know you are a reason why CPS exists.

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Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

That is an entirely separate issue but why don't you go spend some time volunteering if you are so concerned. We had every intention of keeping our child home if we didn't get into VA. The school refused to work with us so I am not bothering to do their homeschooling paperwork when they refuse to help us keep our child safe and give them an appropriate education. You may not think covid is a big deal but it is to some of us and not worth the risk.

That is some amazingly entitled crap. Just homeschool. And if you don’t, I hope CPS looks into you and opens a case.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m lost as to what the people who are keeping their kids home but do not have a medical reason think the outcome should be? Apparently they think they should be allowed to do that, without having CPS check out what’s happening, and they don’t have to apply to homeschool or do virtual school? Why would they think this is ok?

They want to keep their charter or OOB seat, and that is all they care about.

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Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

That is an entirely separate issue but why don't you go spend some time volunteering if you are so concerned. We had every intention of keeping our child home if we didn't get into VA. The school refused to work with us so I am not bothering to do their homeschooling paperwork when they refuse to help us keep our child safe and give them an appropriate education. You may not think covid is a big deal but it is to some of us and not worth the risk.

That is some amazingly entitled crap. Just homeschool. And if you don’t, I hope CPS looks into you and opens a case.

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I am PP and the school refused to help you keep your kid safe? So now you support legislation that prevents other kids from being safe from abuse and neglect? You are entitled and self centered.

And as a side note I work in a high FARMS school so I spend ‘some time’ with kids every day. And I am very concerned. And knowing there are people who can only imagine their own situation in life makes me more concerned.

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Anonymous wrote:To those posters saying three months isn’t a big deal, please spend some time volunteering or subbing in a high FARMS school. Three months is critical in many kids’ education. It would be eye opening for many and hopefully help you understand why this legislation is so dangerous.

That is an entirely separate issue but why don't you go spend some time volunteering if you are so concerned. We had every intention of keeping our child home if we didn't get into VA. The school refused to work with us so I am not bothering to do their homeschooling paperwork when they refuse to help us keep our child safe and give them an appropriate education. You may not think covid is a big deal but it is to some of us and not worth the risk.

So you aren’t homeschooling and not giving your kid an education out of not getting your way with public school?

You know you are a reason why CPS exists.

I worked for multiple different cps. No, they will not care. We can homeschool without registering them as that. If the school system refuses to provide us with an education then it is none of their business what we do.