[APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE

[Anonymous]

I was legit embarrassed for APE with their lame analysis of the VMPI. They don't have a clue.

Now they think they are experts on everything?! These people have a white superiority complex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting that Miranda is doubling down on her affiliation with APE. APE is wildly unpopular in Arlington. It’s going to be an interesting school board race.

Sorry, but if APE is wildly unpopular than there is nothing of interest here. The candidate supported by Arlington Dems will easily win.

Some of ya'll need real hobbies.

If they were minding themselves then I'd happily forget about them. But they are now pushing misinformation during an election (voting already started) - weeks after changing to become a political entity.

Of course, Arlingtonians should take notice of astroturfing in their community.

What misinformation are they pushing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was legit embarrassed for APE with their lame analysis of the VMPI. They don't have a clue.

Now they think they are experts on everything?! These people have a white superiority complex.

Yes, the parts that weren't lying were lame.

It looks like someone recently told them to pay attention. So they are now catching up and while trying to mathsplain to the rest of us. Hello, many of us have been following this for months. It's clear from these questions that they have NOT been paying attention.

If they were sincere interested, why not connect with the APS Math Advisory Committee?

Just seems like a political play given the timing, misinformation, and lack of sincere "questions"...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting that Miranda is doubling down on her affiliation with APE. APE is wildly unpopular in Arlington. It’s going to be an interesting school board race.

Sorry, but if APE is wildly unpopular than there is nothing of interest here. The candidate supported by Arlington Dems will easily win.

Some of ya'll need real hobbies.

If they were minding themselves then I'd happily forget about them. But they are now pushing misinformation during an election (voting already started) - weeks after changing to become a political entity.

Of course, Arlingtonians should take notice of astroturfing in their community.

What misinformation are they pushing?

That VMPI may prevent school districts from offering advanced/accelerated paths.

I posted more details about it a couple of pages ago. Can post again later when I have more time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was legit embarrassed for APE with their lame analysis of the VMPI. They don't have a clue.

Now they think they are experts on everything?! These people have a white superiority complex.

Yes, the parts that weren't lying were lame.

It looks like someone recently told them to pay attention. So they are now catching up and while trying to mathsplain to the rest of us. Hello, many of us have been following this for months. It's clear from these questions that they have NOT been paying attention.

If they were sincere interested, why not connect with the APS Math Advisory Committee?

Just seems like a political play given the timing, misinformation, and lack of sincere "questions"...

Funny that you mention the APS Math Advisory Committee - several APE members are on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was legit embarrassed for APE with their lame analysis of the VMPI. They don't have a clue.

Now they think they are experts on everything?! These people have a white superiority complex.

Yes, the parts that weren't lying were lame.

It looks like someone recently told them to pay attention. So they are now catching up and while trying to mathsplain to the rest of us. Hello, many of us have been following this for months. It's clear from these questions that they have NOT been paying attention.

If they were sincere interested, why not connect with the APS Math Advisory Committee?

Just seems like a political play given the timing, misinformation, and lack of sincere "questions"...

eh, APS is just trying to stay relevant. They look desperate for attention if you ask me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was legit embarrassed for APE with their lame analysis of the VMPI. They don't have a clue.

Now they think they are experts on everything?! These people have a white superiority complex.

Yes, the parts that weren't lying were lame.

It looks like someone recently told them to pay attention. So they are now catching up and while trying to mathsplain to the rest of us. Hello, many of us have been following this for months. It's clear from these questions that they have NOT been paying attention.

If they were sincere interested, why not connect with the APS Math Advisory Committee?

Just seems like a political play given the timing, misinformation, and lack of sincere "questions"...

Funny that you mention the APS Math Advisory Committee - several APE members are on it.

Really? Did they just join? and who? Because how could they be on the math committee and have so little understanding of the VMPI?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was legit embarrassed for APE with their lame analysis of the VMPI. They don't have a clue.

Now they think they are experts on everything?! These people have a white superiority complex.

Yes, the parts that weren't lying were lame.

It looks like someone recently told them to pay attention. So they are now catching up and while trying to mathsplain to the rest of us. Hello, many of us have been following this for months. It's clear from these questions that they have NOT been paying attention.

If they were sincere interested, why not connect with the APS Math Advisory Committee?

Just seems like a political play given the timing, misinformation, and lack of sincere "questions"...

eh, APS is just trying to stay relevant. They look desperate for attention if you ask me.

ooopsy I meant APE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone posted a link to the SB campaign donations.

Interesting…

https://cfreports.elections.virginia.gov/Committee/Index/6cfda7c5-b04d-4373-9c42-420a8fc7b594?CurrentTab=Large%20Contributions

Not much there. The most interesting one to me is the wife of a prominent Covid-Twitter alarmist.

yeah- I think their dinner table discussions must be .....interesting.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was legit embarrassed for APE with their lame analysis of the VMPI. They don't have a clue.

Now they think they are experts on everything?! These people have a white superiority complex.

Yes, the parts that weren't lying were lame.

It looks like someone recently told them to pay attention. So they are now catching up and while trying to mathsplain to the rest of us. Hello, many of us have been following this for months. It's clear from these questions that they have NOT been paying attention.

If they were sincere interested, why not connect with the APS Math Advisory Committee?

Just seems like a political play given the timing, misinformation, and lack of sincere "questions"...

Funny that you mention the APS Math Advisory Committee - several APE members are on it.

Really? Did they just join? and who? Because how could they be on the math committee and have so little understanding of the VMPI?

+1

Or maybe the people on the math advisory don’t talk to the newsletter people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone posted a link to the SB campaign donations.

Interesting…

https://cfreports.elections.virginia.gov/Committee/Index/6cfda7c5-b04d-4373-9c42-420a8fc7b594?CurrentTab=Large%20Contributions

Not much there. The most interesting one to me is the wife of a prominent Covid-Twitter alarmist.

yeah- I think their dinner table discussions must be .....interesting.....

I'm sure they both discuss the art of their grifting.

[Anonymous]

Bumping for lazy people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bumping for lazy people.

Lazy people who have trouble responding in the appropriate thread…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like APE is showing us their hand...

Spreading blatant lies about VMPI now in their newsletter?

100% GOP astroturfing.

What parts exactly are lies?
Yes there are some very conservative people in APE. I’m a flaming liberal and I am there too. I originally joined to know what the right wing nut jobs were up to. A lot of the most vocal conservatives are gone or keeping quiet lately. In the last few months I have enjoyed the debate and discussion in APE.

From the newsletter:
"Here are three key questions we have about the VMPI initialtive:

Question 1: Will elementary and middle school kids still be allowed to be differentiated and accelerated in math? This is a key open question, and one that the VMPI does not adequately answer."


VMPI has very clearly answered this question. They didn't explicitly say that earlier this year, but after the question came up in info sessions they very clearly answered it months ago.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtml
"* VMPI maintains Virginia’s rigorous mathematics instruction for all students and strives to provide all students with opportunities to receive high quality, highly-relevant math instruction that is tailored to their specific post-secondary goals.
* The implementation of VMPI would still allow for student acceleration in mathematics content according to ability and achievement. It does not dictate how and when students take specific courses. Those decisions remain with students and school divisions based on individualized learning needs.
* The traditional high school pathway culminating in the study of Calculus or other advanced courses is not being eliminated. Additional course pathways will include engaging semester courses in statistics, data science, modeling, design, and logic, among others.
* Local school divisions will still have plenty of flexibility to create courses aligned to the standards to meet the needs of all students; and provide opportunities for all students to advance through the curriculum based on their learning needs. School divisions will also be able to offer advanced sections and acceleration through the courses."


APE is now pushing the same.exact.misinformation that the GOP astroturfers were pushing earlier this year.

This is 100% a question for APS to answer - not VMPI. They are positioning it as a VDOE question right now because we have gubernatorial election happening right now. Early voting has already begun and <40 days until election.


And, while discussion and questions are certainly a great thing and should happen, it's the timing and lies that are totally slimy.

VMPI clearly stated it was up to the school districts to figure out acceleration/advanced paths.

And here is what APS has to say about it:

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/arlington/Board.nsf/files/C75RAA6CC6B8/$file/F1-%20Math%20Monitoring%20Report_Sept%2030%202021%20RE.pdf

• All students will engage in what is currently considered high school content beginning, at the latest, in grade 8
• More relevant high school course options and pathways for students
• Calculus AB & BC, and other IB, AP, DE courses will remain options for
students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like APE is showing us their hand...

Spreading blatant lies about VMPI now in their newsletter?

100% GOP astroturfing.

What parts exactly are lies?
Yes there are some very conservative people in APE. I’m a flaming liberal and I am there too. I originally joined to know what the right wing nut jobs were up to. A lot of the most vocal conservatives are gone or keeping quiet lately. In the last few months I have enjoyed the debate and discussion in APE.

From the newsletter:
"Here are three key questions we have about the VMPI initialtive:

Question 1: Will elementary and middle school kids still be allowed to be differentiated and accelerated in math? This is a key open question, and one that the VMPI does not adequately answer."


VMPI has very clearly answered this question. They didn't explicitly say that earlier this year, but after the question came up in info sessions they very clearly answered it months ago.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtml
"* VMPI maintains Virginia’s rigorous mathematics instruction for all students and strives to provide all students with opportunities to receive high quality, highly-relevant math instruction that is tailored to their specific post-secondary goals.
* The implementation of VMPI would still allow for student acceleration in mathematics content according to ability and achievement. It does not dictate how and when students take specific courses. Those decisions remain with students and school divisions based on individualized learning needs.
* The traditional high school pathway culminating in the study of Calculus or other advanced courses is not being eliminated. Additional course pathways will include engaging semester courses in statistics, data science, modeling, design, and logic, among others.
* Local school divisions will still have plenty of flexibility to create courses aligned to the standards to meet the needs of all students; and provide opportunities for all students to advance through the curriculum based on their learning needs. School divisions will also be able to offer advanced sections and acceleration through the courses."


APE is now pushing the same.exact.misinformation that the GOP astroturfers were pushing earlier this year.

This is 100% a question for APS to answer - not VMPI. They are positioning it as a VDOE question right now because we have gubernatorial election happening right now. Early voting has already begun and <40 days until election.


And, while discussion and questions are certainly a great thing and should happen, it's the timing and lies that are totally slimy.

VMPI clearly stated it was up to the school districts to figure out acceleration/advanced paths.

And here is what APS has to say about it:

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/arlington/Board.nsf/files/C75RAA6CC6B8/$file/F1-%20Math%20Monitoring%20Report_Sept%2030%202021%20RE.pdf

• All students will engage in what is currently considered high school content beginning, at the latest, in grade 8
• More relevant high school course options and pathways for students
• Calculus AB & BC, and other IB, AP, DE courses will remain options for
students

None of that means the course offerings won't be scaled back. I have a kid who is currently on track to take calculus as a junior and then is interested in taking a higher-level AP class like differential equations as a senior. It's not clear whether that will still be an option when my current fourth grader gets there, or if the progression will top out with calculus. And if it is an option, will it be a live class taught in-person by APS staff, or will those kids who need more acceleration be shunted off into some kind virtual learning program? As those of us whose kids have tried to take German or Latin this year know, vague assurances from APS that course offerings will be available means absolutely nothing for whether they will be available and accessible in practice.