Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a bad thing if he’s gay and they’re each others beards.

I am liberal and I actually do think it's kind of a bad thing. If it were the 80s or 90s I'd feel differently. But Taylor is so admired/powerful and it's 2024. If one or both of them were closeted and this relationship was a ruse to keep them closeted, my issue then is that it's a missed opportunity for two highly successful, generally admired people to show that any sort of person can be gay, and that it does not actually limit your ability to do things like write successful love songs that straight people relate to, play football, etc.

I like Taylor and Travis but if I found out their relationship was a cover up for one or both of them being gay, I'd be disappointed in that choice. I'd also feel pretty manipulated as a fan.

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Griffin is an employee of ESPN/ABC/Disney, a company in bed with the NFL. Interesting how all of these media members spam viral takes on this relationship. Almost like they got marching orders to make this a wedge issue for proles.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it possible he’s gay or bi? He’s quite old to be childless and never married.

Are you the one constantly posting that the 30s are old, on this thread and others? The guy is 34. Do you live in South Dakota (not to insult people who do, but I imagine they marry earlier than those in more urban areas). Calling Taylor creepy at 34, etc. It’s just very stilted and weird.

Aren’t he and his brother from Ohio? Midwest men with money tend to be married with kids before 30. 34 year old childless bachelor going to Taylor Swift concerts is not normal masculine behavior.

LOL what?

You think it’s normal for single and childless middle aged men to go to Swift concerts and know all the words? Not unless they’re dads with daughters. In real life, if you heard of single and childless middle aged men going to Swift or Beyoncé concerts you’d obviously assume they were gay or bi.

Wrong 1000% wrong.

And please go read your bible again your hate for others is shinning through. Seriously go back to your hole.

He's going because that's his girlfriend idiot, not gay. He should know the words to some of her songs. And he is also an uncle to girls so has heard her songs before he started dating her. You are really bending yourself into knots here.

She was not his girlfriend when he went to that concert. She was not his girlfriend when he memorized all of her songs. A middle aged single and childless man listening to Swift and Beyonce is assumed to be gay or bi. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. But everyone is focusing on HER alleged being closet gay or bi, maybe they BOTH are? Why is it okay to question her sexuality but not his?

Does he know his BFFFFF is on here talking trash about him? Did he memorize ALL the songs? ALL of them? Did he sing them to you? Who wouldn't go see Beyonce in concert if given the opportunity. It's Beyonce. You literally do not even know him. JFC. Back away from the martini. It's 11 am.

I’m happily married. My husband is not some ultra macho guy but he’s also not learning all the lyrics to Swift’s and Beyoncé’s catalog. And we have daughters. Because frankly that is largely something women and gay men do. You can PRETEND this is progressive and “everyone” loves Swift and Beyoncé, blah blah but it’s not true. Their fan bases are women and gay men. Single bachelors going to their concerts with other men acting like fanatics, you’d assume that’s a group of gay/bi men. A rich athlete going there to “meet” Taylor & give her a Swiftie bracelet sounds like a script written by gay men.

Sounds to me like a clever way to ask out a very smart woman who is known for appreciating creativity. And it was charming (or "adorable" as Taylor put it) how he told the story.

No. This is not how straight middle aged men behave.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

The problem there is that you make no distinction between someone saying "omg what if this whole relationship is fake and they are just doing it to launch Kelce's acting career? wild" and someone spouting about how Taylor is ancient and her eggs are drying up and they don't want to see her ugly mug on their tv during their football time rawr.

Celeb gossip will inevitably include people being judgmental or critical. That doesn't mean it's "toxic" or that it's not escapist. For a lot of people, being judgmental or saying "oh ugh I think this celeb is doing something weird/stupid/lame" is part of the escapism.

Your argument is that this thread an only exist if it's just people who feel exactly as you do about Swift and this relationship (unequiviocally supportive). I'm sorry, but that sucks. Start a text chain with your best friend who has your exact same views. Don't try to police a gossip thread. People get to have opinions on the stuff and personally I enjoy reading even the opinions I disagree with because to me, arguing over this stuff is the whole point. It's inane and kind of meaningless, but fun, and that's why I like celeb gossip. You can't take it too seriously, it's meant to be a silly distraction.

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Aww, look it’s Ben’s boys spreading their maga demagoguery.

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Y’know what’s actually “absurd”?

That the GOP is taking orders from a guy who not only lost the last election, but had his attempted a coup fail, his business declared a fraud, been charged with 91 felony counts, and is an adjudicated rapist.

And Taylor is still winning LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Is it possible he’s gay or bi? He’s quite old to be childless and never married.

Are you the one constantly posting that the 30s are old, on this thread and others? The guy is 34. Do you live in South Dakota (not to insult people who do, but I imagine they marry earlier than those in more urban areas). Calling Taylor creepy at 34, etc. It’s just very stilted and weird.

Aren’t he and his brother from Ohio? Midwest men with money tend to be married with kids before 30. 34 year old childless bachelor going to Taylor Swift concerts is not normal masculine behavior.

LOL what?

You think it’s normal for single and childless middle aged men to go to Swift concerts and know all the words? Not unless they’re dads with daughters. In real life, if you heard of single and childless middle aged men going to Swift or Beyoncé concerts you’d obviously assume they were gay or bi.

How do they behave?

You are an idiot bible thumper who needs to find a brian.




Wrong 1000% wrong.

And please go read your bible again your hate for others is shinning through. Seriously go back to your hole.

He's going because that's his girlfriend idiot, not gay. He should know the words to some of her songs. And he is also an uncle to girls so has heard her songs before he started dating her. You are really bending yourself into knots here.

She was not his girlfriend when he went to that concert. She was not his girlfriend when he memorized all of her songs. A middle aged single and childless man listening to Swift and Beyonce is assumed to be gay or bi. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. But everyone is focusing on HER alleged being closet gay or bi, maybe they BOTH are? Why is it okay to question her sexuality but not his?

Does he know his BFFFFF is on here talking trash about him? Did he memorize ALL the songs? ALL of them? Did he sing them to you? Who wouldn't go see Beyonce in concert if given the opportunity. It's Beyonce. You literally do not even know him. JFC. Back away from the martini. It's 11 am.

I’m happily married. My husband is not some ultra macho guy but he’s also not learning all the lyrics to Swift’s and Beyoncé’s catalog. And we have daughters. Because frankly that is largely something women and gay men do. You can PRETEND this is progressive and “everyone” loves Swift and Beyoncé, blah blah but it’s not true. Their fan bases are women and gay men. Single bachelors going to their concerts with other men acting like fanatics, you’d assume that’s a group of gay/bi men. A rich athlete going there to “meet” Taylor & give her a Swiftie bracelet sounds like a script written by gay men.

Sounds to me like a clever way to ask out a very smart woman who is known for appreciating creativity. And it was charming (or "adorable" as Taylor put it) how he told the story.

No. This is not how straight middle aged men behave.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

The problem there is that you make no distinction between someone saying "omg what if this whole relationship is fake and they are just doing it to launch Kelce's acting career? wild" and someone spouting about how Taylor is ancient and her eggs are drying up and they don't want to see her ugly mug on their tv during their football time rawr.

Celeb gossip will inevitably include people being judgmental or critical. That doesn't mean it's "toxic" or that it's not escapist. For a lot of people, being judgmental or saying "oh ugh I think this celeb is doing something weird/stupid/lame" is part of the escapism.

Your argument is that this thread an only exist if it's just people who feel exactly as you do about Swift and this relationship (unequiviocally supportive). I'm sorry, but that sucks. Start a text chain with your best friend who has your exact same views. Don't try to police a gossip thread. People get to have opinions on the stuff and personally I enjoy reading even the opinions I disagree with because to me, arguing over this stuff is the whole point. It's inane and kind of meaningless, but fun, and that's why I like celeb gossip. You can't take it too seriously, it's meant to be a silly distraction.

*posted from my mom’s basement. And I hope to get paid by the word count.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it possible he’s gay or bi? He’s quite old to be childless and never married.

Are you the one constantly posting that the 30s are old, on this thread and others? The guy is 34. Do you live in South Dakota (not to insult people who do, but I imagine they marry earlier than those in more urban areas). Calling Taylor creepy at 34, etc. It’s just very stilted and weird.

Aren’t he and his brother from Ohio? Midwest men with money tend to be married with kids before 30. 34 year old childless bachelor going to Taylor Swift concerts is not normal masculine behavior.

LOL what?

You think it’s normal for single and childless middle aged men to go to Swift concerts and know all the words? Not unless they’re dads with daughters. In real life, if you heard of single and childless middle aged men going to Swift or Beyoncé concerts you’d obviously assume they were gay or bi.

Wrong 1000% wrong.

And please go read your bible again your hate for others is shinning through. Seriously go back to your hole.

He's going because that's his girlfriend idiot, not gay. He should know the words to some of her songs. And he is also an uncle to girls so has heard her songs before he started dating her. You are really bending yourself into knots here.

She was not his girlfriend when he went to that concert. She was not his girlfriend when he memorized all of her songs. A middle aged single and childless man listening to Swift and Beyonce is assumed to be gay or bi. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. But everyone is focusing on HER alleged being closet gay or bi, maybe they BOTH are? Why is it okay to question her sexuality but not his?

Does he know his BFFFFF is on here talking trash about him? Did he memorize ALL the songs? ALL of them? Did he sing them to you? Who wouldn't go see Beyonce in concert if given the opportunity. It's Beyonce. You literally do not even know him. JFC. Back away from the martini. It's 11 am.

I’m happily married. My husband is not some ultra macho guy but he’s also not learning all the lyrics to Swift’s and Beyoncé’s catalog. And we have daughters. Because frankly that is largely something women and gay men do. You can PRETEND this is progressive and “everyone” loves Swift and Beyoncé, blah blah but it’s not true. Their fan bases are women and gay men. Single bachelors going to their concerts with other men acting like fanatics, you’d assume that’s a group of gay/bi men. A rich athlete going there to “meet” Taylor & give her a Swiftie bracelet sounds like a script written by gay men.

Sounds to me like a clever way to ask out a very smart woman who is known for appreciating creativity. And it was charming (or "adorable" as Taylor put it) how he told the story.

No. This is not how straight middle aged men behave.

A 34 yo is NOT middle-aged. And, yes, it is exactly how a smart, straight man who is trying to woo the most famous woman in the world - a woman known for being brilliant, creative, and a hopeless romantic - would behave.

You must be one of those 20-something incel guys - you could something from Travis Kelce.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it possible he’s gay or bi? He’s quite old to be childless and never married.

Are you the one constantly posting that the 30s are old, on this thread and others? The guy is 34. Do you live in South Dakota (not to insult people who do, but I imagine they marry earlier than those in more urban areas). Calling Taylor creepy at 34, etc. It’s just very stilted and weird.

Aren’t he and his brother from Ohio? Midwest men with money tend to be married with kids before 30. 34 year old childless bachelor going to Taylor Swift concerts is not normal masculine behavior.

LOL what?

You think it’s normal for single and childless middle aged men to go to Swift concerts and know all the words? Not unless they’re dads with daughters. In real life, if you heard of single and childless middle aged men going to Swift or Beyoncé concerts you’d obviously assume they were gay or bi.

Wrong 1000% wrong.

And please go read your bible again your hate for others is shinning through. Seriously go back to your hole.

He's going because that's his girlfriend idiot, not gay. He should know the words to some of her songs. And he is also an uncle to girls so has heard her songs before he started dating her. You are really bending yourself into knots here.

She was not his girlfriend when he went to that concert. She was not his girlfriend when he memorized all of her songs. A middle aged single and childless man listening to Swift and Beyonce is assumed to be gay or bi. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. But everyone is focusing on HER alleged being closet gay or bi, maybe they BOTH are? Why is it okay to question her sexuality but not his?

Does he know his BFFFFF is on here talking trash about him? Did he memorize ALL the songs? ALL of them? Did he sing them to you? Who wouldn't go see Beyonce in concert if given the opportunity. It's Beyonce. You literally do not even know him. JFC. Back away from the martini. It's 11 am.

I’m happily married. My husband is not some ultra macho guy but he’s also not learning all the lyrics to Swift’s and Beyoncé’s catalog. And we have daughters. Because frankly that is largely something women and gay men do. You can PRETEND this is progressive and “everyone” loves Swift and Beyoncé, blah blah but it’s not true. Their fan bases are women and gay men. Single bachelors going to their concerts with other men acting like fanatics, you’d assume that’s a group of gay/bi men. A rich athlete going there to “meet” Taylor & give her a Swiftie bracelet sounds like a script written by gay men.

Sounds to me like a clever way to ask out a very smart woman who is known for appreciating creativity. And it was charming (or "adorable" as Taylor put it) how he told the story.

No. This is not how straight middle aged men behave.

A 34 yo is NOT middle-aged. And, yes, it is exactly how a smart, straight man who is trying to woo the most famous woman in the world - a woman known for being brilliant, creative, and a hopeless romantic - would behave.

You must be one of those 20-something incel guys - you could something from Travis Kelce.

*learn something*

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Anonymous wrote:Is it possible he’s gay or bi? He’s quite old to be childless and never married.

Are you the one constantly posting that the 30s are old, on this thread and others? The guy is 34. Do you live in South Dakota (not to insult people who do, but I imagine they marry earlier than those in more urban areas). Calling Taylor creepy at 34, etc. It’s just very stilted and weird.

Aren’t he and his brother from Ohio? Midwest men with money tend to be married with kids before 30. 34 year old childless bachelor going to Taylor Swift concerts is not normal masculine behavior.

LOL what?

You think it’s normal for single and childless middle aged men to go to Swift concerts and know all the words? Not unless they’re dads with daughters. In real life, if you heard of single and childless middle aged men going to Swift or Beyoncé concerts you’d obviously assume they were gay or bi.

Wrong 1000% wrong.

And please go read your bible again your hate for others is shinning through. Seriously go back to your hole.

He's going because that's his girlfriend idiot, not gay. He should know the words to some of her songs. And he is also an uncle to girls so has heard her songs before he started dating her. You are really bending yourself into knots here.

She was not his girlfriend when he went to that concert. She was not his girlfriend when he memorized all of her songs. A middle aged single and childless man listening to Swift and Beyonce is assumed to be gay or bi. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. But everyone is focusing on HER alleged being closet gay or bi, maybe they BOTH are? Why is it okay to question her sexuality but not his?

Does he know his BFFFFF is on here talking trash about him? Did he memorize ALL the songs? ALL of them? Did he sing them to you? Who wouldn't go see Beyonce in concert if given the opportunity. It's Beyonce. You literally do not even know him. JFC. Back away from the martini. It's 11 am.

I’m happily married. My husband is not some ultra macho guy but he’s also not learning all the lyrics to Swift’s and Beyoncé’s catalog. And we have daughters. Because frankly that is largely something women and gay men do. You can PRETEND this is progressive and “everyone” loves Swift and Beyoncé, blah blah but it’s not true. Their fan bases are women and gay men. Single bachelors going to their concerts with other men acting like fanatics, you’d assume that’s a group of gay/bi men. A rich athlete going there to “meet” Taylor & give her a Swiftie bracelet sounds like a script written by gay men.

Sounds to me like a clever way to ask out a very smart woman who is known for appreciating creativity. And it was charming (or "adorable" as Taylor put it) how he told the story.

No. This is not how straight middle aged men behave.

LOL BS the pedo party tends to disagree.

Lets see ,Priests, Pastors, Ministers,Police officers every week in this country abuse girls these are your macho men,right, etc fathers who allow their daughters to be in beauty pagents at age 2 and up dressing in those lovely adult sexualized outfits??

Oh please go back to school your ignorance is really showing here.

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24 seconds and MAGA is losing its mind.

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OOPs that last post was ment for someone else sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it possible he’s gay or bi? He’s quite old to be childless and never married.

Are you the one constantly posting that the 30s are old, on this thread and others? The guy is 34. Do you live in South Dakota (not to insult people who do, but I imagine they marry earlier than those in more urban areas). Calling Taylor creepy at 34, etc. It’s just very stilted and weird.

Aren’t he and his brother from Ohio? Midwest men with money tend to be married with kids before 30. 34 year old childless bachelor going to Taylor Swift concerts is not normal masculine behavior.

LOL what?

You think it’s normal for single and childless middle aged men to go to Swift concerts and know all the words? Not unless they’re dads with daughters. In real life, if you heard of single and childless middle aged men going to Swift or Beyoncé concerts you’d obviously assume they were gay or bi.

Wrong 1000% wrong.

And please go read your bible again your hate for others is shinning through. Seriously go back to your hole.

He's going because that's his girlfriend idiot, not gay. He should know the words to some of her songs. And he is also an uncle to girls so has heard her songs before he started dating her. You are really bending yourself into knots here.

She was not his girlfriend when he went to that concert. She was not his girlfriend when he memorized all of her songs. A middle aged single and childless man listening to Swift and Beyonce is assumed to be gay or bi. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. But everyone is focusing on HER alleged being closet gay or bi, maybe they BOTH are? Why is it okay to question her sexuality but not his?

Does he know his BFFFFF is on here talking trash about him? Did he memorize ALL the songs? ALL of them? Did he sing them to you? Who wouldn't go see Beyonce in concert if given the opportunity. It's Beyonce. You literally do not even know him. JFC. Back away from the martini. It's 11 am.

I’m happily married. My husband is not some ultra macho guy but he’s also not learning all the lyrics to Swift’s and Beyoncé’s catalog. And we have daughters. Because frankly that is largely something women and gay men do. You can PRETEND this is progressive and “everyone” loves Swift and Beyoncé, blah blah but it’s not true. Their fan bases are women and gay men. Single bachelors going to their concerts with other men acting like fanatics, you’d assume that’s a group of gay/bi men. A rich athlete going there to “meet” Taylor & give her a Swiftie bracelet sounds like a script written by gay men.

Sounds to me like a clever way to ask out a very smart woman who is known for appreciating creativity. And it was charming (or "adorable" as Taylor put it) how he told the story.

No. This is not how straight middle aged men behave.

A 34 yo is NOT middle-aged. And, yes, it is exactly how a smart, straight man who is trying to woo the most famous woman in the world - a woman known for being brilliant, creative, and a hopeless romantic - would behave.

You must be one of those 20-something incel guys - you could something from Travis Kelce.

Mid 30s is the middle of your life for someone like him! Beefy man, lots of trauma to the body in the last 20 years, brain injuries etc. How many tight ends do you expect live into their 80s?