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Anonymous wrote:Who are the current parent coaches?

Too many to list, mostly lower tier teams. They don't tell families it will be a parent coach until basically the fall sesson starts, they hold tryouts and claim they are looking for the right coach, string em along, take their money and then a parent coach pops up in August.

There is one head coach of a third team who’s kid plays for him. Let’s stop speaking in hyperboles etc.

Are you claiming that there is just ONE parent coach in all of Valor?

I am claiming that there is one head coach that I am aware of who is coaching his kids team. This is a third team.

Okay- but who are the others?! Why does no one straight up call out the names? Bc why?

There arent others in terms of head coaches. That is the point. Maybe one other lower level team that I dont know about, but you all are hyperbolizing a situation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who are the current parent coaches?

Too many to list, mostly lower tier teams. They don't tell families it will be a parent coach until basically the fall sesson starts, they hold tryouts and claim they are looking for the right coach, string em along, take their money and then a parent coach pops up in August.

There is one head coach of a third team who’s kid plays for him. Let’s stop speaking in hyperboles etc.

Are you claiming that there is just ONE parent coach in all of Valor?

I am claiming that there is one head coach that I am aware of who is coaching his kids team. This is a third team.

Okay- but who are the others?! Why does no one straight up call out the names? Bc why?

There arent others in terms of head coaches. That is the point. Maybe one other lower level team that I dont know about, but you all are hyperbolizing a situation.

I know about one coach who is also a parent - he’s excellent and was a coach before his kid joined the team. People are trying to make a bid deal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who are the current parent coaches?

Too many to list, mostly lower tier teams. They don't tell families it will be a parent coach until basically the fall sesson starts, they hold tryouts and claim they are looking for the right coach, string em along, take their money and then a parent coach pops up in August.

There is one head coach of a third team who’s kid plays for him. Let’s stop speaking in hyperboles etc.

Are you claiming that there is just ONE parent coach in all of Valor?

I am claiming that there is one head coach that I am aware of who is coaching his kids team. This is a third team.

Okay- but who are the others?! Why does no one straight up call out the names? Bc why?

There arent others in terms of head coaches. That is the point. Maybe one other lower level team that I dont know about, but you all are hyperbolizing a situation.

First, you say there is only one.
Then you say there aren't any others.
Then you say maybe there is one other that you don't know about.
It sounds like you just don't know. So why post?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who are the current parent coaches?

Too many to list, mostly lower tier teams. They don't tell families it will be a parent coach until basically the fall sesson starts, they hold tryouts and claim they are looking for the right coach, string em along, take their money and then a parent coach pops up in August.

There is one head coach of a third team who’s kid plays for him. Let’s stop speaking in hyperboles etc.

Are you claiming that there is just ONE parent coach in all of Valor?

I am claiming that there is one head coach that I am aware of who is coaching his kids team. This is a third team.

Okay- but who are the others?! Why does no one straight up call out the names? Bc why?

There arent others in terms of head coaches. That is the point. Maybe one other lower level team that I dont know about, but you all are hyperbolizing a situation.

I can’t speak to any others, but U11 boys third team definitely has a parent coach with kid on the team. If true on the girls side too, that is two total. Last year there was at least one for a younger girls lower team but that coach doesn’t appear to be coaching this year. I wouldn’t say parent coaches are “common”, but the fact that it occurs at all seems unusual compared to other clubs.

A coach who is also a parent of a kid in a different age group at the club is a different situation. I imagine that happens more frequently at many clubs.

[Anonymous]

Parent coaches I know of,
(and I don't know most of the coaches so there are probably more)

U11-girls third team
U14 girls-second team
U19 boys-second team
U16 boys-third team
U13 boys-fourth team

There should be a large discount for a parent coach. The reason people leave rec is to get away from parent coaches. And most of these teams are 11v11 soccer, not u-littles, where parents expect and think they are paying for real instruction. $3000 for daddyball is bait and switch and absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are the current parent coaches?

Too many to list, mostly lower tier teams. They don't tell families it will be a parent coach until basically the fall sesson starts, they hold tryouts and claim they are looking for the right coach, string em along, take their money and then a parent coach pops up in August.

There is one head coach of a third team who’s kid plays for him. Let’s stop speaking in hyperboles etc.

Are you claiming that there is just ONE parent coach in all of Valor?

I am claiming that there is one head coach that I am aware of who is coaching his kids team. This is a third team.

Okay- but who are the others?! Why does no one straight up call out the names? Bc why?

There arent others in terms of head coaches. That is the point. Maybe one other lower level team that I dont know about, but you all are hyperbolizing a situation.

I know about one coach who is also a parent - he’s excellent and was a coach before his kid joined the team. People are trying to make a bid deal.

So he coached a Valor team that his same-age kid didn't play on, then his kid joined the team in a later season? That is....odd.

[Anonymous]

No one wants a situation where the paid, "professional" coach has a child on that team. Too many ways that goes poorly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parent coaches I know of,
(and I don't know most of the coaches so there are probably more)

U11-girls third team
U14 girls-second team
U19 boys-second team
U16 boys-third team
U13 boys-fourth team

There should be a large discount for a parent coach. The reason people leave rec is to get away from parent coaches. And most of these teams are 11v11 soccer, not u-littles, where parents expect and think they are paying for real instruction. $3000 for daddyball is bait and switch and absurd.

So this list, plus a U11 Boys third team coach.

They have 43 teams U11 and up. And at least 6 of those have bait-and-switch, unprofessional, parent coaches. (And probably a lot more than 6 teams since that's just what a handful of posters on this website know about.)

For which people are paying the same price as teams with real coaches.

That's wild. What a scam.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parent coaches I know of,
(and I don't know most of the coaches so there are probably more)

U11-girls third team
U14 girls-second team
U19 boys-second team
U16 boys-third team
U13 boys-fourth team

There should be a large discount for a parent coach. The reason people leave rec is to get away from parent coaches. And most of these teams are 11v11 soccer, not u-littles, where parents expect and think they are paying for real instruction. $3000 for daddyball is bait and switch and absurd.

So this list, plus a U11 Boys third team coach.

They have 43 teams U11 and up. And at least 6 of those have bait-and-switch, unprofessional, parent coaches. (And probably a lot more than 6 teams since that's just what a handful of posters on this website know about.)

For which people are paying the same price as teams with real coaches.

That's wild. What a scam.

There's a reason "Valor' is the only org on this website with 150+ pages of unhappy customers.

[Anonymous]

Its honestly comical how bad this org is. Its like an F- in every possible category.

[Anonymous]

Wrong. A+ in overcharging and making money hand over fist for a low quality programme.

[Anonymous]

that is a lot of parent coaches! wow! i cannot think of even one parent coach at our club and i have had 3 kids playing at various points.

if parent coaches were totally fine and just as good as "real coaches". then Valor would have their best teams also coached by parents who just happen to have kids on the team.

The fact that they reserve 'parent coaches' for their worst teams (while still charging those families full freight!!) shows they know that the 'parent coaches' are not as good as the 'real coaches'.

kinda crazy that people are willing to pay for these unqualified, biased coaches. but i guess if they are told a real coach is being hired, then commit, they don't have the chance to go to another place by the time the "parent coach" is revealed right before the season starts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its honestly comical how bad this org is. Its like an F- in every possible category.

Yup, comical is the word.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parent coaches I know of,
(and I don't know most of the coaches so there are probably more)

U11-girls third team
U14 girls-second team
U19 boys-second team
U16 boys-third team
U13 boys-fourth team

There should be a large discount for a parent coach. The reason people leave rec is to get away from parent coaches. And most of these teams are 11v11 soccer, not u-littles, where parents expect and think they are paying for real instruction. $3000 for daddyball is bait and switch and absurd.

Yup!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:that is a lot of parent coaches! wow! i cannot think of even one parent coach at our club and i have had 3 kids playing at various points.

if parent coaches were totally fine and just as good as "real coaches". then Valor would have their best teams also coached by parents who just happen to have kids on the team.

The fact that they reserve 'parent coaches' for their worst teams (while still charging those families full freight!!) shows they know that the 'parent coaches' are not as good as the 'real coaches'.

kinda crazy that people are willing to pay for these unqualified, biased coaches. but i guess if they are told a real coach is being hired, then commit, they don't have the chance to go to another place by the time the "parent coach" is revealed right before the season starts.

Typical and on brand for them. We left. My kid is in a much better place and quite a few divisions up from his last team. Valor will feed you bread crumbs. I’d keep your options open come tryout season or look to get ID’d early. Happy hunting.