Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:With todays announcement, should the US be investigated for war crimes?



It’s always been rules for thee but not for me for the US. So, not surprised. When America invades and kills, it’s sometimes “regrettable” but never ever a crime.


The Russians have committed war crimes (encyclopedias full) for the past 1.5 years. So, so be it with the cluster bombs. Hopefully, they're particularly effective against the trench positions.


Ironically, you’re posting this from a country built on war crimes,


So be it. Now, we're helping fight against a country that has perfected them.


Tell me more about how you applaud an international court warrant for Putin with your right hand while fighting for all Americans to have immunity from that court with your left.

Tell me more about how you profess to despise illegal land grabs and ethnic cleansing out of the right corner of your mouth while granting unconditional support and money to Israel out of the left one.

Tell me more about your commitment to fight tyrants and spread democracy…once your mouth is on its scheduled break from fellating the Gulf dictators.


Tell me more about your moral quandaries while Russia soldiers rape toddlers to death.


DP but I think toddler rape was propaganda and exposed as such.



Weiss... Huh. Wonder if he has some long standing grudge against Russia? Surely he isn't one of those war mongers that would say anything to her the war he wants...


It's in a U.N. report, dude. You are literally defending child rape.


The "report" is just a collection of stories. If you read the one you are so worked up about, you realize pretty quickly you're dealing with fan fiction.


I'm not so sure an 83 year old woman has fantasies about being raped by Russian soldiers, or a 22 year old mother has fantasies about her 4 year old daughter being forced to fellate a Russian soldier. Why would you assume that?


You skipped some of the less believable details.
Here is the full report:
90. In Kyiv region, in March 2022, two Russian soldiers entered a home, raped a 22-year-
old woman several times, committed acts of sexual violence on her husband, and forced the
couple to have sexual intercourse in their presence. Then, one of the soldiers forced their
four-year-old daughter to perform oral sex on him, which is rape.

Note that supposedly this happened around Kiev in March, where Russian soldiers were rather busy at the time.



No way do troops have time for all that without the Ghost of Kiev stopping them.


Some random joker spreads a fake "Ghost of Kiev" story to troll the Russians and you think you can point at that and claim everything any Ukrainian has ever said is a lie?

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Also, even the Ukrainian Air Force said right from the start that the "Ghost of Kiev" was a myth.

Now the Russians, on the other hand - have lied about literally everything in this war. Like Lavrov saying on February 23rd 2022 that Russia was not going to invade and that it was all just "western hysterics." Or the Russian Navy claiming the Moskva was on its way to port under its own power when in fact it was sunk. The Russians have lied about EVERYTHING.


You're shooting down arguments like a patriot missile battery.
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Remember when the west said they trusted Putin?

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Anonymous wrote:With todays announcement, should the US be investigated for war crimes?



It’s always been rules for thee but not for me for the US. So, not surprised. When America invades and kills, it’s sometimes “regrettable” but never ever a crime.


The Russians have committed war crimes (encyclopedias full) for the past 1.5 years. So, so be it with the cluster bombs. Hopefully, they're particularly effective against the trench positions.


Ironically, you’re posting this from a country built on war crimes,


So be it. Now, we're helping fight against a country that has perfected them.


Tell me more about how you applaud an international court warrant for Putin with your right hand while fighting for all Americans to have immunity from that court with your left.

Tell me more about how you profess to despise illegal land grabs and ethnic cleansing out of the right corner of your mouth while granting unconditional support and money to Israel out of the left one.

Tell me more about your commitment to fight tyrants and spread democracy…once your mouth is on its scheduled break from fellating the Gulf dictators.


Tell me more about your moral quandaries while Russia soldiers rape toddlers to death.


DP but I think toddler rape was propaganda and exposed as such.



Weiss... Huh. Wonder if he has some long standing grudge against Russia? Surely he isn't one of those war mongers that would say anything to her the war he wants...


It's in a U.N. report, dude. You are literally defending child rape.


The "report" is just a collection of stories. If you read the one you are so worked up about, you realize pretty quickly you're dealing with fan fiction.


I'm not so sure an 83 year old woman has fantasies about being raped by Russian soldiers, or a 22 year old mother has fantasies about her 4 year old daughter being forced to fellate a Russian soldier. Why would you assume that?


You skipped some of the less believable details.
Here is the full report:
90. In Kyiv region, in March 2022, two Russian soldiers entered a home, raped a 22-year-
old woman several times, committed acts of sexual violence on her husband, and forced the
couple to have sexual intercourse in their presence. Then, one of the soldiers forced their
four-year-old daughter to perform oral sex on him, which is rape.

Note that supposedly this happened around Kiev in March, where Russian soldiers were rather busy at the time.



Even if it didn’t happen it should have been invented, as this is perfect propaganda. Child and elder abuse, same sex sexual violence, animal abuse.. shaken, not stirred.


I think that if you don't believe the rape stories, you should personally fly to Ukraine to volunteer with OHCHR to record the stories yourself. It's possible the experience may help you develop a soul?

It seems that someone was upset by my earlier post, so let me repost it just for you. Enjoy.

Sergey Mardan: "I lose all my capacity for irony and sarcasm. I have no strength for either irony or sarcasm. Let's all of us share this feeling of national humiliation. Here is what it's all about. [Ukrainian] Azof [Brigade] Commanders have returned to Ukraine."
"Pardon, I can't stay away from sarcasm. But sarcasm is the revenge of a weak people. If anyone suddenly resorts to sarcasm this is the verdict. In this instance, it applies to me. I'm attempting to joke so bitterly, because there is no cause for any jokes."
"We were promised they'd stay until the end of the war. But to commemorate the 500-day jubilee [a reference to the start of the Russian War in Ukraine] the Turks festively handed over these dirtbags [Azov Brigade commanders, POWs by trilateral agreement between Russia, Ukraine and Turkey were to remain in Turkey] to the president of Ukraine, and he took them along in his presidential plane."
"There is an iron curtain on Russia's Western flank. We're under a blockade. Our European part is under a blockade. Beyond that, we have 3 export corridors and we are an export-oriented country. Our domestic market is very small. We have neglected it for 30 years. It was of no interest to us. There is China, Turkey, and, in part, Iran across the Caspian Sea. And that's it."
"It's all very simple. This was to be expected after [the Turkish] Presidential elections. The [Turkish] Presidential elections have come to an end. We certainly helped Erdogan win. We saw the Turkish opposition as an unacceptable option for us. This was better. But the problem is, both are worse for us."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFkdPfytIf8

Julia Davis: "State TV's hit piece about Prigozhin came out shortly before it was revealed that Putin spent time with him even after the mutiny. This is another indictment of Putin's regime, since everything they're condemning was totally fine before Prigozhin rebelled."
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1678624020197982209?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember something that Ukrainians would like to forget and get indignant when reminded: Russians and Ukrainians are very close both in genetics and in their Soviet past. The differences are negligible despite what Ukrainians would like to believe.
I don’t think one side committed much worse acts of violence on the individual scale than the other. This does not pertain to the state level but if the roles were reversed… however let’s not talk hypotheticals.
Now if the invaders were a completely different culture I would be more inclined to believe all the horror stories. Another argument is that it’s always easier to commit atrocities on “others”.


In my experience living in Russia and spending time in Ukraine, Ukrainians aren’t upset if you bring up their shared identity and history with Russians. In fact, that’s one of the reasons they’re so upset about the fact that Russia invaded their country.

Russians and Ukrainians know they have shared history and identity. I’m one of many people who are both Russian (St Petersburg) and Ukrainian (Odessa).


Yeah... UNTIL Russia illegally invaded them, shelled their schools and hospitals and homes, raped, murdered, tortured, looted them. Now they want nothing to do with Russians. Go back now and very few Ukrainians identify with or want anything to do with Russia.
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember something that Ukrainians would like to forget and get indignant when reminded: Russians and Ukrainians are very close both in genetics and in their Soviet past. The differences are negligible despite what Ukrainians would like to believe.
I don’t think one side committed much worse acts of violence on the individual scale than the other. This does not pertain to the state level but if the roles were reversed… however let’s not talk hypotheticals.
Now if the invaders were a completely different culture I would be more inclined to believe all the horror stories. Another argument is that it’s always easier to commit atrocities on “others”.


In my experience living in Russia and spending time in Ukraine, Ukrainians aren’t upset if you bring up their shared identity and history with Russians. In fact, that’s one of the reasons they’re so upset about the fact that Russia invaded their country.

Russians and Ukrainians know they have shared history and identity. I’m one of many people who are both Russian (St Petersburg) and Ukrainian (Odessa).


Yeah... UNTIL Russia illegally invaded them, shelled their schools and hospitals and homes, raped, murdered, tortured, looted them. Now they want nothing to do with Russians. Go back now and very few Ukrainians identify with or want anything to do with Russia.

Yes, this is what I heard from someone who made the trip to Ukraine.
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More boys to the abattoir today. Zelensky needs to fill more pockets.
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From Heather Cox Richardson:

Trump ally Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) called for President Biden to withdraw from NATO altogether, saying bizarrely that NATO, which was formed in 1949 to stand against Soviet aggression and now stands against Russian expansion, is “entirely beholden to Russia.” Indeed, Trump recently boasted that he could end the war in 24 hours, and his former vice president Mike Pence noted that “the only way you’d solve this war in a day is if you gave Vladimir Putin what he wanted.”
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See the column David Sanger filed at nyt from Vilnius

Even he’s given up hope

Ukraine is screwed
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Ukraine has got this…ruble is imploding; Russia’s financial reserves are tapped. They have really two trading partners now - China and Iran.

Russia will die from the inside and be worse off than the worst times of the USSR for generations.

Whatever parts of their nuclear arsenal will be completely defunct in a decade (if any still work).

Game, set, match.
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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine has got this…ruble is imploding; Russia’s financial reserves are tapped. They have really two trading partners now - China and Iran.

Russia will die from the inside and be worse off than the worst times of the USSR for generations.

Whatever parts of their nuclear arsenal will be completely defunct in a decade (if any still work).

Game, set, match.


Lol don’t be ridiculous. This is wishful thinking. India, all of Latam and Africa are happy to do business with Russia. So is Israel! Honey the rest of the world just doesn’t consider this war any of their business and resent the western push to do so.
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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine has got this…ruble is imploding; Russia’s financial reserves are tapped. They have really two trading partners now - China and Iran.

Russia will die from the inside and be worse off than the worst times of the USSR for generations.

Whatever parts of their nuclear arsenal will be completely defunct in a decade (if any still work).

Game, set, match.


Lol don’t be ridiculous. This is wishful thinking. India, all of Latam and Africa are happy to do business with Russia. So is Israel! Honey the rest of the world just doesn’t consider this war any of their business and resent the western push to do so.


By doing “business”, you mean acting as the discount gas station for these regions? Resent away…it’s just going to get worse for Russia going forward.
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Another day for Zelensky to send conscripts to the meat grinder to “liberate” the ethnically Russian east.
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Anonymous wrote:Another day for Zelensky to send conscripts to the meat grinder to “liberate” the ethnically Russian east.


And another day to drug up Russian conscripts on amphetamines so that they happily charge into machine gun fire. Gotta stick with that World War I playbook because the money to do otherwise was stolen long ago.
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Anonymous wrote:Another day for Zelensky to send conscripts to the meat grinder to “liberate” the ethnically Russian east.


Russian projection
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Anonymous wrote:Another day for Zelensky to send conscripts to the meat grinder to “liberate” the ethnically Russian east.


Russia needs to get the f**k out of Ukraine, dummy.
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