Can someone break down AAP and wtf it means moving out of ES

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

That isn't entirely true. My kids were in AAP in a non-center school. Their History, Science, and English classes were all full-time AAP kids. They weren't mixed in with honors kids for anything other than Math.

Of course PE and their elective courses were mixed.

[Anonymous]

You actually have missed communication both email and through the mail. When we had level 2 service we were notified via mail EVERY year usually late May.

For level 4 (full time) we got notified when we got in.

[Anonymous]

For all the hoop-la, it really is not ‘ all that and a bag of chips!’

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

That isn't entirely true. My kids were in AAP in a non-center school. Their History, Science, and English classes were all full-time AAP kids. They weren't mixed in with honors kids for anything other than Math.

Of course PE and their elective courses were mixed.

Ok, so then it's always segregated...
I'm not sure that that is a better look for fcps

[Anonymous]

Sounds like you were not involved in applying for the program, and missed all of the annual AAP meetings. Your elder child was probably identified as being very advanced in math so put into level 2 AAP for math. (Although I thought the subject specific was level 3).

The younger is in an AAP level 4 which means the county found them eligible based on an application the school (or parent) put together and the teachers at your school were not involved. They receive AAP instruction in all subjects, level 2 is not supposed to unless your child was principal placed into a classroom. It’s also possible that your younger is in the first year that level 4 is offered at this school.

You as a parent can apply/appeal every year for your older child. However the classes in middle school are supposed to be the same. Honors English = AAP English except that the group of students are all AAP students…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can both your kids be in AAP and you are this clueless?

What would i have to pay attention to? They're in the same classes with the same people every year. They bring home report cards with all 4s. They test very well. They go to school and don't have issues. It wasn't until picking classes for middle school that we noticed some kids were picking honors and some were aap.

You would have known that you could have applied for LIV services for your oldest and have options in MS. You would have known that your son could choose to attend a Center and been in a class with all LIV selected kids. You wouldn’t be asking these questions now because you would have had the information to make informed choices 3 years ago.

That's my point. I wasn't ignoring communication. My husband and I have heard nothing. There was nothing ever mentioned in parent teacher meetings either. I didn't know only certain aap kids stayed in aap in ms. I just assumed they all did since they've been moving through ES together.

But hey, at least I get text messages twice a week from fcps telling me to check my email about skyview. "The boundary tool is back online."

When your child is in level two, you get a letter at the end of the year every year saying that they qualify for level two services the following year. When your child is in level four, there is no communication. They’re just automatically staying in AAP. you never question why one child got a letter and the other didn’t.

[Anonymous]

Your younger child is able to take Algebra 1 honors next year because they changed the criteria. Last year’s 5th graders had to have certain scores to be eligible to take Algebra in 6th - which is sounds like your daughter did not meet. But this year’s 5th graders do not have the same requirements. The only requirement now is that the 5th grader is taking math 5 advanced and passes the math 6 SOL. They do not need to be in full time AAP and they do not need to meet any other score requirements. It’s just different criteria.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They email about the AAP meetings every year. They send home communication in folders.

maybe your school does

+1 My school buried the AAP info session date at the bottom of a long email about other upcoming events and most people missed it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can both your kids be in AAP and you are this clueless?

What would i have to pay attention to? They're in the same classes with the same people every year. They bring home report cards with all 4s. They test very well. They go to school and don't have issues. It wasn't until picking classes for middle school that we noticed some kids were picking honors and some were aap.

You would have known that you could have applied for LIV services for your oldest and have options in MS. You would have known that your son could choose to attend a Center and been in a class with all LIV selected kids. You wouldn’t be asking these questions now because you would have had the information to make informed choices 3 years ago.

That's my point. I wasn't ignoring communication. My husband and I have heard nothing. There was nothing ever mentioned in parent teacher meetings either. I didn't know only certain aap kids stayed in aap in ms. I just assumed they all did since they've been moving through ES together.

But hey, at least I get text messages twice a week from fcps telling me to check my email about skyview. "The boundary tool is back online."

When your child is in level two, you get a letter at the end of the year every year saying that they qualify for level two services the following year. When your child is in level four, there is no communication. They’re just automatically staying in AAP. you never question why one child got a letter and the other didn’t.

How are you so sure I got a letter? We don't get letters from the school. I did check my email history and found 1 email about an aap meeting from 2024 and another in 2026 buried at the bottom of a newsletter. That's it.

I think the confusion was from day 1 when we received an email that our eldest was selected for AAP. We didn't have to do anything. It wasn't just one subject, it was full-time AAP (apparently level 2). There are kids in that class that come in for Math only, but he's not one of them...

The following year we didn't hear from the school, so we asked. They told us to fill out an application, submit work, get a referral etc.. They ended up being accepted into AAP. I guess we figured that because our eldest was simply selected and our youngest had to jump through hurdles, they were the same. I wouldn't have guessed my youngest would be in a higher level 1) because of the process 2) because of their aptitude

[Anonymous]

I have 3 kids, all in AAP. It really doesn’t matter that much by high school. The only slight difference may be the friend group in middle school. If your kid is in the AAp track, they will only be in classes with other AAP kids. By high school, anyone can pick honor or AP classes.

Just apply for Level IV AAP for your older child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have 3 kids, all in AAP. It really doesn’t matter that much by high school. The only slight difference may be the friend group in middle school. If your kid is in the AAp track, they will only be in classes with other AAP kids. By high school, anyone can pick honor or AP classes.

Just apply for Level IV AAP for your older child.

Who you're in class with can make all the difference. I think it's too late to apply for Level IV

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can both your kids be in AAP and you are this clueless?

What would i have to pay attention to? They're in the same classes with the same people every year. They bring home report cards with all 4s. They test very well. They go to school and don't have issues. It wasn't until picking classes for middle school that we noticed some kids were picking honors and some were aap.

You would have known that you could have applied for LIV services for your oldest and have options in MS. You would have known that your son could choose to attend a Center and been in a class with all LIV selected kids. You wouldn’t be asking these questions now because you would have had the information to make informed choices 3 years ago.

That's my point. I wasn't ignoring communication. My husband and I have heard nothing. There was nothing ever mentioned in parent teacher meetings either. I didn't know only certain aap kids stayed in aap in ms. I just assumed they all did since they've been moving through ES together.

But hey, at least I get text messages twice a week from fcps telling me to check my email about skyview. "The boundary tool is back online."

When your child is in level two, you get a letter at the end of the year every year saying that they qualify for level two services the following year. When your child is in level four, there is no communication. They’re just automatically staying in AAP. you never question why one child got a letter and the other didn’t.

How are you so sure I got a letter? We don't get letters from the school. I did check my email history and found 1 email about an aap meeting from 2024 and another in 2026 buried at the bottom of a newsletter. That's it.

I think the confusion was from day 1 when we received an email that our eldest was selected for AAP. We didn't have to do anything. It wasn't just one subject, it was full-time AAP (apparently level 2). There are kids in that class that come in for Math only, but he's not one of them...

The following year we didn't hear from the school, so we asked. They told us to fill out an application, submit work, get a referral etc.. They ended up being accepted into AAP. I guess we figured that because our eldest was simply selected and our youngest had to jump through hurdles, they were the same. I wouldn't have guessed my youngest would be in a higher level 1) because of the process 2) because of their aptitude

It sounds like your oldest was principal placed in level IV, which does not carry through to middle school, and in elementary is contingent on space in the level IV AAP classroom. They definitely confused ppl by now calling all levels AAP. level IV used to be the only level referred to as full-time AAP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can both your kids be in AAP and you are this clueless?

What would i have to pay attention to? They're in the same classes with the same people every year. They bring home report cards with all 4s. They test very well. They go to school and don't have issues. It wasn't until picking classes for middle school that we noticed some kids were picking honors and some were aap.

You would have known that you could have applied for LIV services for your oldest and have options in MS. You would have known that your son could choose to attend a Center and been in a class with all LIV selected kids. You wouldn’t be asking these questions now because you would have had the information to make informed choices 3 years ago.

That's my point. I wasn't ignoring communication. My husband and I have heard nothing. There was nothing ever mentioned in parent teacher meetings either. I didn't know only certain aap kids stayed in aap in ms. I just assumed they all did since they've been moving through ES together.

But hey, at least I get text messages twice a week from fcps telling me to check my email about skyview. "The boundary tool is back online."

When your child is in level two, you get a letter at the end of the year every year saying that they qualify for level two services the following year. When your child is in level four, there is no communication. They’re just automatically staying in AAP. you never question why one child got a letter and the other didn’t.

How are you so sure I got a letter? We don't get letters from the school. I did check my email history and found 1 email about an aap meeting from 2024 and another in 2026 buried at the bottom of a newsletter. That's it.

I think the confusion was from day 1 when we received an email that our eldest was selected for AAP. We didn't have to do anything. It wasn't just one subject, it was full-time AAP (apparently level 2). There are kids in that class that come in for Math only, but he's not one of them...

The following year we didn't hear from the school, so we asked. They told us to fill out an application, submit work, get a referral etc.. They ended up being accepted into AAP. I guess we figured that because our eldest was simply selected and our youngest had to jump through hurdles, they were the same. I wouldn't have guessed my youngest would be in a higher level 1) because of the process 2) because of their aptitude

It sounds like your oldest was principal placed in level IV, which does not carry through to middle school, and in elementary is contingent on space in the level IV AAP classroom. They definitely confused ppl by now calling all levels AAP. level IV used to be the only level referred to as full-time AAP.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can both your kids be in AAP and you are this clueless?

What would i have to pay attention to? They're in the same classes with the same people every year. They bring home report cards with all 4s. They test very well. They go to school and don't have issues. It wasn't until picking classes for middle school that we noticed some kids were picking honors and some were aap.

You would have known that you could have applied for LIV services for your oldest and have options in MS. You would have known that your son could choose to attend a Center and been in a class with all LIV selected kids. You wouldn’t be asking these questions now because you would have had the information to make informed choices 3 years ago.

That's my point. I wasn't ignoring communication. My husband and I have heard nothing. There was nothing ever mentioned in parent teacher meetings either. I didn't know only certain aap kids stayed in aap in ms. I just assumed they all did since they've been moving through ES together.

But hey, at least I get text messages twice a week from fcps telling me to check my email about skyview. "The boundary tool is back online."

When your child is in level two, you get a letter at the end of the year every year saying that they qualify for level two services the following year. When your child is in level four, there is no communication. They’re just automatically staying in AAP. you never question why one child got a letter and the other didn’t.

How are you so sure I got a letter? We don't get letters from the school. I did check my email history and found 1 email about an aap meeting from 2024 and another in 2026 buried at the bottom of a newsletter. That's it.

I think the confusion was from day 1 when we received an email that our eldest was selected for AAP. We didn't have to do anything. It wasn't just one subject, it was full-time AAP (apparently level 2). There are kids in that class that come in for Math only, but he's not one of them...

The following year we didn't hear from the school, so we asked. They told us to fill out an application, submit work, get a referral etc.. They ended up being accepted into AAP. I guess we figured that because our eldest was simply selected and our youngest had to jump through hurdles, they were the same. I wouldn't have guessed my youngest would be in a higher level 1) because of the process 2) because of their aptitude

The school might give you a condescending attitude and shame you that you should have known this or that, but I encourage you to be brave and follow up anyway. Truly, there are differences with how each FCPS school manages things and they do make mistakes.

[Anonymous]

Don’t worry. It doesn’t make much difference. Many of our AAP kids aren’t even maintaining high enough grades in MS to be in NJHS. Several cheat on tests by toggling over to the internet or Gmail their friends. It’s not like it’s some genius cohort. Plus, they will be scrambled in HS.