Can someone break down AAP and wtf it means moving out of ES

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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

You’re confused bc they’re lying. It’s not the same material. If it were, they’d combine the classes, it makes no sense otherwise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

You’re confused bc they’re lying. It’s not the same material. If it were, they’d combine the classes, it makes no sense otherwise.

Within the same team it is absolutely the same..
At least at our center. Otherwise the teachers would maintain different Schoology folders for aap and honors, but they don't... IT'S THE SAME...just segregated

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

You’re confused bc they’re lying. It’s not the same material. If it were, they’d combine the classes, it makes no sense otherwise.

Within the same team it is absolutely the same..
At least at our center. Otherwise the teachers would maintain different Schoology folders for aap and honors, but they don't... IT'S THE SAME...just segregated

In AAP the pacing is faster and the curriculum goes more in depth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

You’re confused bc they’re lying. It’s not the same material. If it were, they’d combine the classes, it makes no sense otherwise.

Within the same team it is absolutely the same..
At least at our center. Otherwise the teachers would maintain different Schoology folders for aap and honors, but they don't... IT'S THE SAME...just segregated

In AAP the pacing is faster and the curriculum goes more in depth.

Even when the teaching materials, homework, and tests are the same.....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

You’re confused bc they’re lying. It’s not the same material. If it were, they’d combine the classes, it makes no sense otherwise.

Within the same team it is absolutely the same..
At least at our center. Otherwise the teachers would maintain different Schoology folders for aap and honors, but they don't... IT'S THE SAME...just segregated

In AAP the pacing is faster and the curriculum goes more in depth.

Honestly, if they weren't similar the kids would stay segregated in highschool too since they would have been taught soooooo much more

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

You’re confused bc they’re lying. It’s not the same material. If it were, they’d combine the classes, it makes no sense otherwise.

Within the same team it is absolutely the same..
At least at our center. Otherwise the teachers would maintain different Schoology folders for aap and honors, but they don't... IT'S THE SAME...just segregated

In AAP the pacing is faster and the curriculum goes more in depth.

Honestly, if they weren't similar the kids would stay segregated in highschool too since they would have been taught soooooo much more

In our center MS there is only honors and AAP offered, so honors is inevitably going to move at a slower pace and cover topics in less depth since there’s really no other track offered for the kids who can’t and/or don’t want to work at that AAP pace. In high school, students can choose general track, honors and/or AP courses. Yes, there are many honors kids who can work at AAP pace in MS, but that’s a separate matter altogether. I have no idea why they chose to organize it this way. In high school the honors/AP course selection tends to more appropriately sort the students into the programming rigor they can handle.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

You’re confused bc they’re lying. It’s not the same material. If it were, they’d combine the classes, it makes no sense otherwise.

Within the same team it is absolutely the same..
At least at our center. Otherwise the teachers would maintain different Schoology folders for aap and honors, but they don't... IT'S THE SAME...just segregated

In AAP the pacing is faster and the curriculum goes more in depth.

Honestly, if they weren't similar the kids would stay segregated in highschool too since they would have been taught soooooo much more

In our center MS there is only honors and AAP offered, so honors is inevitably going to move at a slower pace and cover topics in less depth since there’s really no other track offered for the kids who can’t and/or don’t want to work at that AAP pace. In high school, students can choose general track, honors and/or AP courses. Yes, there are many honors kids who can work at AAP pace in MS, but that’s a separate matter altogether. I have no idea why they chose to organize it this way. In high school the honors/AP course selection tends to more appropriately sort the students into the programming rigor they can handle.

Interesting...our center Ms has aap, honors and regular. Teachers who teach aap and honors classes use the same materials for both

[Anonymous]

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Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

For the peer group. During orientation I asked, Carson at least says that the AAP and honors classes are the same materials. I talked to my daughter about pulling her from AAP as most of her friends are not in it.

Ultimately we stuck with AAP so that her classes would have students who were more academically inclined. If Honors were just opt in she may have picked that, but the school encourages everyone to take at least one honors course. Throughout elementary school she had constantly had complaints about different students who acted out in class and were disruptive (we did LL4 for reasons) we talked about it and hoped that by being in AAP those students would not be in her core classes.

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Anonymous wrote:How can both your kids be in AAP and you are this clueless?

What would i have to pay attention to? They're in the same classes with the same people every year. They bring home report cards with all 4s. They test very well. They go to school and don't have issues. It wasn't until picking classes for middle school that we noticed some kids were picking honors and some were aap.

You would have known that you could have applied for LIV services for your oldest and have options in MS. You would have known that your son could choose to attend a Center and been in a class with all LIV selected kids. You wouldn’t be asking these questions now because you would have had the information to make informed choices 3 years ago.

That's my point. I wasn't ignoring communication. My husband and I have heard nothing. There was nothing ever mentioned in parent teacher meetings either. I didn't know only certain aap kids stayed in aap in ms. I just assumed they all did since they've been moving through ES together.

But hey, at least I get text messages twice a week from fcps telling me to check my email about skyview. "The boundary tool is back online."

When your child is in level two, you get a letter at the end of the year every year saying that they qualify for level two services the following year. When your child is in level four, there is no communication. They’re just automatically staying in AAP. you never question why one child got a letter and the other didn’t.

How are you so sure I got a letter? We don't get letters from the school. I did check my email history and found 1 email about an aap meeting from 2024 and another in 2026 buried at the bottom of a newsletter. That's it.

I think the confusion was from day 1 when we received an email that our eldest was selected for AAP. We didn't have to do anything. It wasn't just one subject, it was full-time AAP (apparently level 2). There are kids in that class that come in for Math only, but he's not one of them...

The following year we didn't hear from the school, so we asked. They told us to fill out an application, submit work, get a referral etc.. They ended up being accepted into AAP. I guess we figured that because our eldest was simply selected and our youngest had to jump through hurdles, they were the same. I wouldn't have guessed my youngest would be in a higher level 1) because of the process 2) because of their aptitude

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Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

For the peer group. During orientation I asked, Carson at least says that the AAP and honors classes are the same materials. I talked to my daughter about pulling her from AAP as most of her friends are not in it.

Ultimately we stuck with AAP so that her classes would have students who were more academically inclined. If Honors were just opt in she may have picked that, but the school encourages everyone to take at least one honors course. Throughout elementary school she had constantly had complaints about different students who acted out in class and were disruptive (we did LL4 for reasons) we talked about it and hoped that by being in AAP those students would not be in her core classes.

The kids who selected all honors seem to move as a group to all of the honors classes which are team taught, English, history, science.
Honors math mixes aap/ honors kids depending on algebra track.

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It sounds like you never went to any of the AAP presentations. You are too late to put your 6th grader in AAP for middle school. You should have reapplied this year if you wanted her to go to Carson. She can take honors classes at Franklin next year. You don't have to worry about them going to two different schools because they have AAP at Franklin, too, so your younger child can go there, too.

[Anonymous]

I misread. You have a 5th grader who is principal placed into the AAP classroom. That means that you need to contact the AART teacher and ask her how to apply for her to be in AAP next year. Applications are typically due in November/December. You will need to fill out a parent referral form in the fall stating that she has thrived in the AAP classroom for the past three years and provide work samples (the teacher and AART can help you select these). There are also examples on the FCPS webpage for this.

If you are really motivated to get her in, then you can also contact a psychologist to have her take the WISC IV and if the scores are high, that will be additional evidence that she belongs in AAP.

It sounds like you just completely missed the AAP sessions and have not done any research. All of this is publicly available information.

[Anonymous]

Watch re: the advising coming out of middle school. A straight A student in Honors may be counseled differently, re: choosing HS classes for 9th, than a straight A student coming out of AAP. Sure, listen to their suggestions, but make your own decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:Your writing style is very unclear.

That is because instead of figuring out which math is best for both other kids, OP is pretending not to “understand” AAP.

I know which Math would be best for both kids - Advanced Math 6.

What I don't understand is why my much better student (a level 2 AAP) wasn't given the choice to take Algebra 1 in 6th grade. Apparently, this was due to scoring 2 points too low on the math SOLs in 5th grade. I don't care about this, but I do find it strange that my current 5th grader (a level 4 AAP, who struggles with math) was invited to take algebra 1 next year, in 6th grade, despite not taking the math SOLs yet this year.

OMG PAY ATTENTION. They changed the process for placing kids in Algebra THIS YEAR. This has nothing to do with which of your kids is LLIV or not.

Anyway, I can't believe you haven't done the research on AAP. It's EASY TO FIND. I'm not going to link it if you're too dumb to search for it.