Alcohol on school trip

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a private school teacher who chaperones overnight trips. It’s written into our policy that we cannot drink when we are chaperoning, even when we are “off duty”’ in the evening. The reason for that, I’m guessing, is that we’re never really off duty. What if there’s an emergency at night?

I chaperone less than I used to. Not because I can’t drink. That’s fine. It’s because I have to pay for my own meals, my room, etc. It’s too much of a financial hit for me.

Doesn’t the school pay for your room and food? Isn’t it a school trip?

The school asks for teacher volunteers. Paying for the chaperones means that student prices go up, and we try to keep the trips affordable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a private school teacher who chaperones overnight trips. It’s written into our policy that we cannot drink when we are chaperoning, even when we are “off duty”’ in the evening. The reason for that, I’m guessing, is that we’re never really off duty. What if there’s an emergency at night?

I chaperone less than I used to. Not because I can’t drink. That’s fine. It’s because I have to pay for my own meals, my room, etc. It’s too much of a financial hit for me.

Doesn’t the school pay for your room and food? Isn’t it a school trip?

Yeah that’s weird. All the overnights that DC went on, the teachers’ rooms and meals were paid for by the school. I don’t think they were paid any overtime or anything — essentially they are donating their own time outside of school, but they don’t also have to pay for the accommodations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a private school teacher who chaperones overnight trips. It’s written into our policy that we cannot drink when we are chaperoning, even when we are “off duty”’ in the evening. The reason for that, I’m guessing, is that we’re never really off duty. What if there’s an emergency at night?

I chaperone less than I used to. Not because I can’t drink. That’s fine. It’s because I have to pay for my own meals, my room, etc. It’s too much of a financial hit for me.

Doesn’t the school pay for your room and food? Isn’t it a school trip?

The school asks for teacher volunteers. Paying for the chaperones means that student prices go up, and we try to keep the trips affordable.

That's entirely unfair. In my kid's public school, teachers are never asked to pay out of pocket. The music field trip to Nashville is paid for by parents and all music teachers go for free. It's a lot of money... but parents have more money than teachers, even in public. In private, you guys have no excuse. Cough up for the teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a private school teacher who chaperones overnight trips. It’s written into our policy that we cannot drink when we are chaperoning, even when we are “off duty”’ in the evening. The reason for that, I’m guessing, is that we’re never really off duty. What if there’s an emergency at night?

I chaperone less than I used to. Not because I can’t drink. That’s fine. It’s because I have to pay for my own meals, my room, etc. It’s too much of a financial hit for me.

Doesn’t the school pay for your room and food? Isn’t it a school trip?

The school asks for teacher volunteers. Paying for the chaperones means that student prices go up, and we try to keep the trips affordable.

AKA work for free. Unionize.

[Anonymous]

Private School teachers will lose jobs if they try to unionize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a private school teacher who chaperones overnight trips. It’s written into our policy that we cannot drink when we are chaperoning, even when we are “off duty”’ in the evening. The reason for that, I’m guessing, is that we’re never really off duty. What if there’s an emergency at night?

I chaperone less than I used to. Not because I can’t drink. That’s fine. It’s because I have to pay for my own meals, my room, etc. It’s too much of a financial hit for me.

WHAT? That's crazy. I have never heard of such a thing. At my school we get a (modest) stipend for chaperoning overnight trips.

[Anonymous]

I avoid all overnight trips. So much extra work for absolutely no additional pay. In fact, at my school we were just asked to volunteer for EOY trips. I exercised my right to remain silent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a private school teacher who chaperones overnight trips. It’s written into our policy that we cannot drink when we are chaperoning, even when we are “off duty”’ in the evening. The reason for that, I’m guessing, is that we’re never really off duty. What if there’s an emergency at night?

I chaperone less than I used to. Not because I can’t drink. That’s fine. It’s because I have to pay for my own meals, my room, etc. It’s too much of a financial hit for me.

Doesn’t the school pay for your room and food? Isn’t it a school trip?

The school asks for teacher volunteers. Paying for the chaperones means that student prices go up, and we try to keep the trips affordable.

AKA work for free. Unionize.

I'm disgusted by this. Keeping the trips "reasonable" for people who can pay 60k a year on tuition by shifting the cost to people who live on 70k a year? I'd have a fit over this and we are in the former category.

[Anonymous]

Well, we were prohibited from doing this as girl scout chaperones.

If the trip was over, that's fine. But "after hours" when kids could have an emergency, NOT ok.

[Anonymous]

Going back to the OPs question (not whether there should be a rule against drinking on the trip, but whether having a glass of wine is a fireable offense even if there is such a rule):

There are a lot of possible disciplinary steps before firing, and a glass of wine at dinner should be met with any of those steps, not dismissal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a private school teacher who chaperones overnight trips. It’s written into our policy that we cannot drink when we are chaperoning, even when we are “off duty”’ in the evening. The reason for that, I’m guessing, is that we’re never really off duty. What if there’s an emergency at night?

I chaperone less than I used to. Not because I can’t drink. That’s fine. It’s because I have to pay for my own meals, my room, etc. It’s too much of a financial hit for me.

Doesn’t the school pay for your room and food? Isn’t it a school trip?

The school asks for teacher volunteers. Paying for the chaperones means that student prices go up, and we try to keep the trips affordable.

AKA work for free. Unionize.

I'm disgusted by this. Keeping the trips "reasonable" for people who can pay 60k a year on tuition by shifting the cost to people who live on 70k a year? I'd have a fit over this and we are in the former category.

I suspect the schools charging $60,000 per year are not expecting the teacher chaperones to pay their own way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going back to the OPs question (not whether there should be a rule against drinking on the trip, but whether having a glass of wine is a fireable offense even if there is such a rule):

There are a lot of possible disciplinary steps before firing, and a glass of wine at dinner should be met with any of those steps, not dismissal.

Wrong

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going back to the OPs question (not whether there should be a rule against drinking on the trip, but whether having a glass of wine is a fireable offense even if there is such a rule):

There are a lot of possible disciplinary steps before firing, and a glass of wine at dinner should be met with any of those steps, not dismissal.

Nope. I am 0% ok with the teachers watching my child on overnight school trips have any alcohol.

My kid and their class actually *did* experience an emergency while on a middle school trip, with a hotel fire at about 1 am. Fortunately very minor, and all guests were let back in within an hour, but I am thankful that the teachers caring for 25 pre-teens full of adrenaline were fully alert. And I’d happily treat them to a bottle of whatever they’d like after they got home, they earned it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going back to the OPs question (not whether there should be a rule against drinking on the trip, but whether having a glass of wine is a fireable offense even if there is such a rule):

There are a lot of possible disciplinary steps before firing, and a glass of wine at dinner should be met with any of those steps, not dismissal.

Do teachers usually have dinner with students?

[Anonymous]

Any teacher drinking on a school trip, regardless if it is after hours is an idiot. And, do we really want idiots teaching at our 40K+ private schools?