Is anyone else nervous - and angry- about having to spend so much for college in the face of AI, lack of any sort of

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Anonymous wrote:No, because AI is overrated and overhyped right now. It's not going to the panacea that these tech bros are pushing. But, I wouldn't study computer science because it's "guaranteed" a well-paying job.

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Ignoring AI, I think people are wising up to the cost of college and questioning its worth. I figure an investment account with $250k is more valuable in the LT than sending my kid to an out of state private over in-state public.

Exactly, since covid, the investment direction has shifted

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Anonymous wrote:No, because AI is overrated and overhyped right now. It's not going to the panacea that these tech bros are pushing. But, I wouldn't study computer science because it's "guaranteed" a well-paying job.

It is not overhyped, sorry, it’s just not. I work around tech and AI and it is replacing people left and right across all areas - layoffs in tech of course, HR, finance, creative, editing, legal, etc. Yes, you still need a human hand in things, but many fewer than ten years ago.

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Looking at the tuition, it is quite clear a few things are meant to taking more money away from mc and umc

* tax but not sure what's been done for everyone?
* expensive health insurance
* expensive private education from k-12, colleges, now even master degree, more and more education, when will kids be independent
* expensive tutoring, EC, coaching, consultants just to chase prestige lol, whole industry of rip-off, are kids better off?
* expensive housing now we are talking about 50 years mortgage, chain for the slaves

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Anonymous wrote:Go pre-med, then med school and get a job in emergency medicine in a big city.

You have AI proofed yourself.

Yep.
Or Ag/Agtech or hospitality at Cornell.

Both colleges see massively increased interest.

Premed and medical school are another part of the problem:
1. Students take on years of schooling with no guarantee of success—a massive investment of time and money.
2. It raises the question: are students truly passionate about medicine, or are they pursuing it purely for financial reasons? If it’s the latter, both future doctors and their patients ultimately suffer.
3. Either AI or the imported H1B physicians will eventually saturate the market

Let's be honest here, 99% of kids go for premed or med for money.

Why is considering financial aspects a bad thing?
As opposed to the 99% of kids going into finance, big tech or big law doing it out of a sense of altruism? Who doesn’t choose a profession with very expensive
Education costs without some consideration of the financial repercussions? I don’t understand why people think medicine should be impervious to the same financial incentives as any other job. Why should young people sacrifice their youth and tuition dollars without some expectation of at least financial security at the end of that long path. As it is, medicine is NOT the best way to make money for students that are smart and motivated enough to do well enough to gain admission to med schools.

When the public good - education, health - becomes solely for profit. Everyone suffers. Greeds take over everything. Technology used to be "Don't be evil". Now it is to replace human workers for maximizing profits (for share owners)

That has nothing to do with the medical doctors and other healthcare workers who are front line workers getting a wage. Healthcare becoming profit driven big business is due to business people taking control and squeezing both patients and the medical professionals to increase their profit margins. You want to blame someone, blame big pharma and insurance execs, not the front line primary care docs seeing ever more patients for ever less pay.

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you don't HAVE to do anything.

you have choices.

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Anonymous wrote:Go pre-med, then med school and get a job in emergency medicine in a big city.

You have AI proofed yourself.

Yep.
Or Ag/Agtech or hospitality at Cornell.

Both colleges see massively increased interest.

Premed and medical school are another part of the problem:
1. Students take on years of schooling with no guarantee of success—a massive investment of time and money.
2. It raises the question: are students truly passionate about medicine, or are they pursuing it purely for financial reasons? If it’s the latter, both future doctors and their patients ultimately suffer.
3. Either AI or the imported H1B physicians will eventually saturate the market

Let's be honest here, 99% of kids go for premed or med for money.

Why is considering financial aspects a bad thing?
As opposed to the 99% of kids going into finance, big tech or big law doing it out of a sense of altruism? Who doesn’t choose a profession with very expensive
Education costs without some consideration of the financial repercussions? I don’t understand why people think medicine should be impervious to the same financial incentives as any other job. Why should young people sacrifice their youth and tuition dollars without some expectation of at least financial security at the end of that long path. As it is, medicine is NOT the best way to make money for students that are smart and motivated enough to do well enough to gain admission to med schools.

When the public good - education, health - becomes solely for profit. Everyone suffers. Greeds take over everything. Technology used to be "Don't be evil". Now it is to replace human workers for maximizing profits (for share owners)

That has nothing to do with the medical doctors and other healthcare workers who are front line workers getting a wage. Healthcare becoming profit driven big business is due to business people taking control and squeezing both patients and the medical professionals to increase their profit margins. You want to blame someone, blame big pharma and insurance execs, not the front line primary care docs seeing ever more patients for ever less pay.

Sure. Feel free to send your children to med schools.

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We are paying for our two kids to go to college for about $160k each without saddling them with loans and we are paying off our two houses in the next 4 years so that they each have a place to inherit and live if they don't end up with careers that pay enough for home ownership. That's the best we can do for them.

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Anonymous wrote:We are paying for our two kids to go to college for about $160k each without saddling them with loans and we are paying off our two houses in the next 4 years so that they each have a place to inherit and live if they don't end up with careers that pay enough for home ownership. That's the best we can do for them.

That's great planning. Our goal is to make sure we (the parents) will not become burden to our kids, so we are trying to keep ourselves healthy!

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Anonymous wrote:We are paying for our two kids to go to college for about $160k each without saddling them with loans and we are paying off our two houses in the next 4 years so that they each have a place to inherit and live if they don't end up with careers that pay enough for home ownership. That's the best we can do for them.

That's amazing. Your kids are very lucky

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Hence the popularity of less expensive schools among people without family money.

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Anonymous wrote:No, because AI is overrated and overhyped right now. It's not going to the panacea that these tech bros are pushing. But, I wouldn't study computer science because it's "guaranteed" a well-paying job.

It is not overhyped, sorry, it’s just not. I work around tech and AI and it is replacing people left and right across all areas - layoffs in tech of course, HR, finance, creative, editing, legal, etc. Yes, you still need a human hand in things, but many fewer than ten years ago.

Yep. I remember when spreadsheets were invented, and accountants no longer has jobs.

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The jobs will remain just fewer of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Go pre-med, then med school and get a job in emergency medicine in a big city.

You have AI proofed yourself.

I could see ER docs being replaced by AI algorithms telling technicians and mid levels what to carry out. There will be a need for healthcare roles, but there will be less need for high level expensive MD education, except for a few to oversee operations. Much of medicine is algorithmic nowadays.

Last 2 times my kids needed Urgent Care or ER, AI gave a more detailed and thoughtful diagnosis - and in one case, the doctor was flat out wrong but AI got it right...

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AI will take over the drudge jobs and those that require sifting through large amounts of data and/or the ability to identify issues that can be fixed before the point of no return. Think assisting in medicine by identifying breast cancer in its infancy, etc.

Will still need people involved in the process.

Will some “professions” suffer more job losses than others, sure but in the same way blacksmiths became metal works and mechanics those individuals that can adapt will survive and prosper. Those that can’t adapt, well we all know that outcome.

So kids need to learn how to adapt while at college if they don’t already have that skill.

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Anonymous wrote:AI will take over the drudge jobs and those that require sifting through large amounts of data and/or the ability to identify issues that can be fixed before the point of no return. Think assisting in medicine by identifying breast cancer in its infancy, etc.

Will still need people involved in the process.

Will some “professions” suffer more job losses than others, sure but in the same way blacksmiths became metal works and mechanics those individuals that can adapt will survive and prosper. Those that can’t adapt, well we all know that outcome.

So kids need to learn how to adapt while at college if they don’t already have that skill.

Which schools teach this type of intellectual adaptability? Creativity? Flexibility?