ODP District Scrimmages

[Anonymous]

ODP is such a waste of money. For those who are flexing their DC made it to the next round, just remember the higher-level leagues are not allowed to participate in in ODP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ODP is such a waste of money. For those who are flexing their DC made it to the next round, just remember the higher-level leagues are not allowed to participate in in ODP.

A cursory look at the rosters shows many “higher-level leagues” presumably ECNL GA MLSNext all have kids who are on ODP teams.
So much crying from parents whose DC didn’t make it.
Many “higher-level leagues” kids may not have time, or may play alternate sports in winter, but nobody is “not allowed” to participate in a program designed to find talented players for inclusion in USNT four or five levels down road.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ODP is such a waste of money. For those who are flexing their DC made it to the next round, just remember the higher-level leagues are not allowed to participate in in ODP.

A cursory look at the rosters shows many “higher-level leagues” presumably ECNL GA MLSNext all have kids who are on ODP teams.
So much crying from parents whose DC didn’t make it.
Many “higher-level leagues” kids may not have time, or may play alternate sports in winter, but nobody is “not allowed” to participate in a program designed to find talented players for inclusion in USNT four or five levels down road.

limited numbers of kids from top team participate. (And yea it’s frowned upon, to coaches telling kids not to do it) Otherwise most kids wouldnt be making teams. USNT knows top kids dont participate. ODP is a shell of what it was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pssst…leagues don’t matter that young.

pssst yes they do. As those high level teams rosters get locked down pretty quick. And they get more training, better coaching and play more games. Most girls not in those leagues just fall behind. And not many slots open for them. My advice is get on a club that is ECNL or GA as young as possible.

pssst....if you know what to do, you don't rely on a ECNL/GA coach tell you what to do. My daughter ate their lunch at tryouts and went back to playing EDP with boys. She is a 2015 and can walk onto any ECNL/GA club she wants. But, keep doing what you are doing and believing what you are believing. I tried to let you in on the secret.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pssst…leagues don’t matter that young.

pssst yes they do. As those high level teams rosters get locked down pretty quick. And they get more training, better coaching and play more games. Most girls not in those leagues just fall behind. And not many slots open for them. My advice is get on a club that is ECNL or GA as young as possible.

pssst....if you know what to do, you don't rely on a ECNL/GA coach tell you what to do. My daughter ate their lunch at tryouts and went back to playing EDP with boys. She is a 2015 and can walk onto any ECNL/GA club she wants. But, keep doing what you are doing and believing what you are believing. I tried to let you in on the secret.

Pssst….troll

[Anonymous]

ODP still around? Who plays there?

[Anonymous]

It is interesting to see who made it from my child’s age group. A few former and current teammates made the district pool. Of those, former teammates have apparently made the state pool and current teammate on the callback list. From what I have seen I think the callback player is more talented than the former teammates who made it, unless they have improved a lot in the last 6 months. Maybe whoever is evaluating prefers the play style of my child’s former team vs. current team. Does anyone know what they tend to look for?

My own child did not try out but would maybe consider for next year as it seems the level of player is around where they are and if it’s decent training.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a useless scrimmage. Every kid who shows up makes it into the state pool, plus there’s a whole bunch of call backs. It’s basically a pay to play situation.

What? You were looking some great external validation of "being selected" to the state pool? Sorry to shatter your ego.

What are you even talking about
There were 125 or so kids there for 2014 boys yesterday and only 30 kids made the state pool
Everything in US soccer is pay to play
Sorry your kid didn’t make it

ODP is a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a useless scrimmage. Every kid who shows up makes it into the state pool, plus there’s a whole bunch of call backs. It’s basically a pay to play situation.

What? You were looking some great external validation of "being selected" to the state pool? Sorry to shatter your ego.

What are you even talking about
There were 125 or so kids there for 2014 boys yesterday and only 30 kids made the state pool
Everything in US soccer is pay to play
Sorry your kid didn’t make it

ODP is a joke.

sorry your DD didnt make it

[Anonymous]

Anytime kids get their foot on the ball is good, just don’t think of it as a step stone to elite soccer and you will be fine.

[Anonymous]

You down with ODP? Yea, you know me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is interesting to see who made it from my child’s age group. A few former and current teammates made the district pool. Of those, former teammates have apparently made the state pool and current teammate on the callback list. From what I have seen I think the callback player is more talented than the former teammates who made it, unless they have improved a lot in the last 6 months. Maybe whoever is evaluating prefers the play style of my child’s former team vs. current team. Does anyone know what they tend to look for?

My own child did not try out but would maybe consider for next year as it seems the level of player is around where they are and if it’s decent training.

Many Callback Players were either: A.) Talented and not at the scrimmages due to tournament attendance or they were hurt/ sick. B.) Showed some promise, but were inconsistent at the scrimmages or could not attend but given one final chance. But yes, many of the call back players are very talented; but you can just can't put them on the state player pool if they could not attend the scrimmages. -They usually put out some language at the beginning of each year, essentially telling the highly skilled players not to skip all the trainings and sessions up to that point as has been done in the past as it is a bad look.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is interesting to see who made it from my child’s age group. A few former and current teammates made the district pool. Of those, former teammates have apparently made the state pool and current teammate on the callback list. From what I have seen I think the callback player is more talented than the former teammates who made it, unless they have improved a lot in the last 6 months. Maybe whoever is evaluating prefers the play style of my child’s former team vs. current team. Does anyone know what they tend to look for?

My own child did not try out but would maybe consider for next year as it seems the level of player is around where they are and if it’s decent training.

Many Callback Players were either: A.) Talented and not at the scrimmages due to tournament attendance or they were hurt/ sick. B.) Showed some promise, but were inconsistent at the scrimmages or could not attend but given one final chance. But yes, many of the call back players are very talented; but you can just can't put them on the state player pool if they could not attend the scrimmages. -They usually put out some language at the beginning of each year, essentially telling the highly skilled players not to skip all the trainings and sessions up to that point as has been done in the past as it is a bad look.

Ohh that makes sense. Yes the callback player on current team, along with a former teammate whose name I noticed, were both at a tournament. Also know of one current and one former teammate who didn’t make next round and that tracks with what I have seen/remember in terms of skill level and playing time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pssst…leagues don’t matter that young.

pssst yes they do. As those high level teams rosters get locked down pretty quick. And they get more training, better coaching and play more games. Most girls not in those leagues just fall behind. And not many slots open for them. My advice is get on a club that is ECNL or GA as young as possible.

pssst....if you know what to do, you don't rely on a ECNL/GA coach tell you what to do. My daughter ate their lunch at tryouts and went back to playing EDP with boys. She is a 2015 and can walk onto any ECNL/GA club she wants. But, keep doing what you are doing and believing what you are believing. I tried to let you in on the secret.

psssst shes a 2015 so she wasn't playing with ECNL or GA kids.. playing against water down talent.

[Anonymous]

Odp doesn’t bring real competition or returns until you make it too Connecticut and New Jersey and Florida. Early sessions and scrimmages are pretty meaningless. Especially as the kids get older and ECNL/MLSN clubs put their feet down on players signing up.

Competition really heats up to a serious level in FL. When kids play against kids from out west/midwest. Completely different level of competition.

Odp is good for DCs getting different experiences in different positions and coaches if your in season experience is lacking.

My 2 cents