Materialists - I need a spoiler!!!

[Anonymous]

This was a weird friggin movie.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was dumb and sad. A rich man with a nice face and good personality would absolutely be able to get a nice and pretty woman. Chris Evans is nowhere near as good looking with his weird teeth and he was such a loser.

+1 They really didn't need to make Chris Evans quite so much of a loser, ruined the film.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was dumb and sad. A rich man with a nice face and good personality would absolutely be able to get a nice and pretty woman. Chris Evans is nowhere near as good looking with his weird teeth and he was such a loser.

+1 They really didn't need to make Chris Evans quite so much of a loser, ruined the film.

You know, you're so right. It's rare to be as old as he was and still living like that. Maybe 10 years earlier, 7 if we're being very generous, but at some point, things get a little better. You go ahead and pick up those extra catering shifts. You increase your standard of living.

[Anonymous]

I hated this movie. Considered it a horror movie

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was dumb and sad. A rich man with a nice face and good personality would absolutely be able to get a nice and pretty woman. Chris Evans is nowhere near as good looking with his weird teeth and he was such a loser.

+1 They really didn't need to make Chris Evans quite so much of a loser, ruined the film.

You know, you're so right. It's rare to be as old as he was and still living like that. Maybe 10 years earlier, 7 if we're being very generous, but at some point, things get a little better. You go ahead and pick up those extra catering shifts. You increase your standard of living.

NP- When I finished the movie I actually thought to myself it actually maybe was supposed to be seen by the audience as a terrifying, horrible ending, like a cautionary tale for women: you will meet a great tall loser in your 20s, fall for him, leave him and date better men, and still go back to the tall loser who did not improve his life because you are a shallow, idiotic sucker for crap men who can't spot a good one even when he stares you in the face. Not pictured of course is what happens post movie: her stressed out and sad with 3 kids in a squalid shitty place as he turns into a bitter, beer bellied alcoholic greater loser.

[Anonymous]

The lack of chemistry and time spent flushing out the relationship with Chris Evans made it hard to understand her logic too. (But then, no chemistry with Pedro either!)

Also, I had no clue there would be so many references to height. I know women deal with this kind of stuff all the time, but I would be mortified if I took a short date to see this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The lack of chemistry and time spent flushing out the relationship with Chris Evans made it hard to understand her logic too. (But then, no chemistry with Pedro either!)

Also, I had no clue there would be so many references to height. I know women deal with this kind of stuff all the time, but I would be mortified if I took a short date to see this.

I agree. It was heartbreaking and offensive in the same way Shallow Hal was to heavier women, except it's the 2020s and we do know better, but somehow male "shortphobia" is accepted still and something to find funny and okay. It was gross.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The lack of chemistry and time spent flushing out the relationship with Chris Evans made it hard to understand her logic too. (But then, no chemistry with Pedro either!)

Also, I had no clue there would be so many references to height. I know women deal with this kind of stuff all the time, but I would be mortified if I took a short date to see this.

I agree. It was heartbreaking and offensive in the same way Shallow Hal was to heavier women, except it's the 2020s and we do know better, but somehow male "shortphobia" is accepted still and something to find funny and okay. It was gross.

Ita.

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Anonymous wrote:The lack of chemistry and time spent flushing out the relationship with Chris Evans made it hard to understand her logic too. (But then, no chemistry with Pedro either!)

Also, I had no clue there would be so many references to height. I know women deal with this kind of stuff all the time, but I would be mortified if I took a short date to see this.

I agree. It was heartbreaking and offensive in the same way Shallow Hal was to heavier women, except it's the 2020s and we do know better, but somehow male "shortphobia" is accepted still and something to find funny and okay. It was gross.

Ita.

I was raised in a house full of girls and this was not on my radar until I had two (tall) boys. People comment on their height so much, their friends’ moms worry about their sons’ heights, the boys tease each other about height. I went through the first 4 decades of life only vaguely knowing that people had a preference for tall men. Has it gotten worse or is this how it has always been?

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Anonymous wrote:The lack of chemistry and time spent flushing out the relationship with Chris Evans made it hard to understand her logic too. (But then, no chemistry with Pedro either!)

Also, I had no clue there would be so many references to height. I know women deal with this kind of stuff all the time, but I would be mortified if I took a short date to see this.

I agree. It was heartbreaking and offensive in the same way Shallow Hal was to heavier women, except it's the 2020s and we do know better, but somehow male "shortphobia" is accepted still and something to find funny and okay. It was gross.

Ita.

I was raised in a house full of girls and this was not on my radar until I had two (tall) boys. People comment on their height so much, their friends’ moms worry about their sons’ heights, the boys tease each other about height. I went through the first 4 decades of life only vaguely knowing that people had a preference for tall men. Has it gotten worse or is this how it has always been?

It's gotten worse imo due to social media, and it can sting at any time: For instance the new Love is Blind. Amber makes it about Chris's height despite the man having every fault on the planet, people go on and on about "Napoleon complex". There is a whole "short king" narrative to counter it but it's assumed a guy who is short is inferior unless they demonstrate x, y or z quality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The lack of chemistry and time spent flushing out the relationship with Chris Evans made it hard to understand her logic too. (But then, no chemistry with Pedro either!)

Also, I had no clue there would be so many references to height. I know women deal with this kind of stuff all the time, but I would be mortified if I took a short date to see this.

I agree. It was heartbreaking and offensive in the same way Shallow Hal was to heavier women, except it's the 2020s and we do know better, but somehow male "shortphobia" is accepted still and something to find funny and okay. It was gross.

Ita.

I was raised in a house full of girls and this was not on my radar until I had two (tall) boys. People comment on their height so much, their friends’ moms worry about their sons’ heights, the boys tease each other about height. I went through the first 4 decades of life only vaguely knowing that people had a preference for tall men. Has it gotten worse or is this how it has always been?

It's gotten worse imo due to social media, and it can sting at any time: For instance the new Love is Blind. Amber makes it about Chris's height despite the man having every fault on the planet, people go on and on about "Napoleon complex". There is a whole "short king" narrative to counter it but it's assumed a guy who is short is inferior unless they demonstrate x, y or z quality.

It's low hanging fruit in that case because he's such a pr*ck. If he were sweet, there would have been no commentary on his height. I don't remember comments about Daniel last season.

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Anonymous wrote:The lack of chemistry and time spent flushing out the relationship with Chris Evans made it hard to understand her logic too. (But then, no chemistry with Pedro either!)

Also, I had no clue there would be so many references to height. I know women deal with this kind of stuff all the time, but I would be mortified if I took a short date to see this.

I agree. It was heartbreaking and offensive in the same way Shallow Hal was to heavier women, except it's the 2020s and we do know better, but somehow male "shortphobia" is accepted still and something to find funny and okay. It was gross.

Ita.

I was raised in a house full of girls and this was not on my radar until I had two (tall) boys. People comment on their height so much, their friends’ moms worry about their sons’ heights, the boys tease each other about height. I went through the first 4 decades of life only vaguely knowing that people had a preference for tall men. Has it gotten worse or is this how it has always been?

It's gotten worse imo due to social media, and it can sting at any time: For instance the new Love is Blind. Amber makes it about Chris's height despite the man having every fault on the planet, people go on and on about "Napoleon complex". There is a whole "short king" narrative to counter it but it's assumed a guy who is short is inferior unless they demonstrate x, y or z quality.

It's low hanging fruit in that case because he's such a pr*ck. If he were sweet, there would have been no commentary on his height. I don't remember comments about Daniel last season.

There is so much to say about him that excludes something that cannot be changed. Imagine how short guys at home feel hearing it. Bringing up how doughy he is would have been fair game since he was criticizing Jess for not being in shape enough and he's not in shape at all himself. Height? No.

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Anonymous wrote:The lack of chemistry and time spent flushing out the relationship with Chris Evans made it hard to understand her logic too. (But then, no chemistry with Pedro either!)

Also, I had no clue there would be so many references to height. I know women deal with this kind of stuff all the time, but I would be mortified if I took a short date to see this.

I agree. It was heartbreaking and offensive in the same way Shallow Hal was to heavier women, except it's the 2020s and we do know better, but somehow male "shortphobia" is accepted still and something to find funny and okay. It was gross.

Ita.

I was raised in a house full of girls and this was not on my radar until I had two (tall) boys. People comment on their height so much, their friends’ moms worry about their sons’ heights, the boys tease each other about height. I went through the first 4 decades of life only vaguely knowing that people had a preference for tall men. Has it gotten worse or is this how it has always been?

It's gotten worse imo due to social media, and it can sting at any time: For instance the new Love is Blind. Amber makes it about Chris's height despite the man having every fault on the planet, people go on and on about "Napoleon complex". There is a whole "short king" narrative to counter it but it's assumed a guy who is short is inferior unless they demonstrate x, y or z quality.

It's low hanging fruit in that case because he's such a pr*ck. If he were sweet, there would have been no commentary on his height. I don't remember comments about Daniel last season.

There is so much to say about him that excludes something that cannot be changed. Imagine how short guys at home feel hearing it. Bringing up how doughy he is would have been fair game since he was criticizing Jess for not being in shape enough and he's not in shape at all himself. Height? No.

Fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was dumb and sad. A rich man with a nice face and good personality would absolutely be able to get a nice and pretty woman. Chris Evans is nowhere near as good looking with his weird teeth and he was such a loser.

Before the big reveal, I turned to my husband and joked "I bet he got the leg lengthening surgery" because it would be a ridiculous plot point. And it is.

BUT! I think the point was his character was so picky he didn't want the type of woman who would be thrilled with a rich, short guy with a good personality (she'd likely be short or chubby or not drop dead gorgeous). He was just pragmatic enough to realize his expectations were higher than what he could get naturally. Which her picky clients didn't get.

It also makes his personality less attractive...

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was dumb and sad. A rich man with a nice face and good personality would absolutely be able to get a nice and pretty woman. Chris Evans is nowhere near as good looking with his weird teeth and he was such a loser.

Before the big reveal, I turned to my husband and joked "I bet he got the leg lengthening surgery" because it would be a ridiculous plot point. And it is.

BUT! I think the point was his character was so picky he didn't want the type of woman who would be thrilled with a rich, short guy with a good personality (she'd likely be short or chubby or not drop dead gorgeous). He was just pragmatic enough to realize his expectations were higher than what he could get naturally. Which her picky clients didn't get.

It also makes his personality less attractive...

I don't think it was pickiness: it was a lack of self-esteem. Because if you look around in life a lot of short men have absolutely gorgeous, smart, amazing wives. He just could not see it happening and it's a shame because he would have gotten a much better woman and not a shallow one.