Summer LCM Options & swimming unattached

[Anonymous]

Unless your 12&U is a national level swimmer just skip the meet and attend Time Trials. LC becomes really important when you are 15ish and want to swim in college. Or if you are some of the area swimmers that are trying to make cuts for the big meets and the Olympics.

For the majority of swimmers, it is not a big deal. Skip a day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but if attending make-up time trials vs the regular time trials is the difference between your swimmer making their A meet or not, then LC meets really don't matter for your swimmer.

Sadly, this isn’t true at some pools. While there’s no risk in swimmers making A Meets, there is risk in getting left of the relay. Will be very possible that a LC Champs qualifying swimmer won’t make the relay at our summer pool this year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but if attending make-up time trials vs the regular time trials is the difference between your swimmer making their A meet or not, then LC meets really don't matter for your swimmer.

Sadly, this isn’t true at some pools. While there’s no risk in swimmers making A Meets, there is risk in getting left of the relay. Will be very possible that a LC Champs qualifying swimmer won’t make the relay at our summer pool this year.

Wouldn’t this just be in an issue for the first A meet relay? Swimmer could swim it for time in the first B meet and earn spot on relay for subsequent meets and relay carnival.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but if attending make-up time trials vs the regular time trials is the difference between your swimmer making their A meet or not, then LC meets really don't matter for your swimmer.

Sadly, this isn’t true at some pools. While there’s no risk in swimmers making A Meets, there is risk in getting left of the relay. Will be very possible that a LC Champs qualifying swimmer won’t make the relay at our summer pool this year.

Wouldn’t this just be in an issue for the first A meet relay? Swimmer could swim it for time in the first B meet and earn spot on relay for subsequent meets and relay carnival.

None of this makes sense, if the first B meet is essentially another crack at time trials, and times from that B meet are used to make the lineup for the 1st A meet why wouldn’t that also apply to the 1st A meet relay? Y’all need to breathe, you’re stressing over 12 and under kids (and yes, we know you absolutely are the parents of younger kids because I refuse to believe any parent of a teen swimmer cares this much about summer swim anymore) being on a relay at the 1st meet of summer swim. Relax.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but if attending make-up time trials vs the regular time trials is the difference between your swimmer making their A meet or not, then LC meets really don't matter for your swimmer.

Sadly, this isn’t true at some pools. While there’s no risk in swimmers making A Meets, there is risk in getting left of the relay. Will be very possible that a LC Champs qualifying swimmer won’t make the relay at our summer pool this year.

Wouldn’t this just be in an issue for the first A meet relay? Swimmer could swim it for time in the first B meet and earn spot on relay for subsequent meets and relay carnival.

Yes, just an issue for the first A meet. My child, center lane for every A meet at age 8 and 9, missed our time trials to attend my brother‘s wedding at age 10. 1st and 2nd place in week 1, but didn’t make the relay until week 2.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but if attending make-up time trials vs the regular time trials is the difference between your swimmer making their A meet or not, then LC meets really don't matter for your swimmer.

Our team doesn’t do make up time trials, it seems that some do, most don’t.

Our team also will not let you use last year’s time. So, no time trials or B meet 2 days later, no first A meet.

Ours doesn’t allow make ups either and DC doesn’t want to miss a meet as it counts against you for high point, relay spots (and they go to all stars every year). Say what you will but DC make All Stars every year and loves summer swim despite being a high performing club swimmer (they aren’t mutually exclusive).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but if attending make-up time trials vs the regular time trials is the difference between your swimmer making their A meet or not, then LC meets really don't matter for your swimmer.

Generally true, but not always true for certain age groups on teams like Chesterbrook and Tuckahoe (and maybe OKM and Crosspointe). Some age groups are stacked and very competitive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but if attending make-up time trials vs the regular time trials is the difference between your swimmer making their A meet or not, then LC meets really don't matter for your swimmer.

Generally true, but not always true for certain age groups on teams like Chesterbrook and Tuckahoe (and maybe OKM and Crosspointe). Some age groups are stacked and very competitive.

For the 12&u set who will have the conflict, go to time trials, especially when the team is stacked and very competitive. Skip the LC meet. It will be ok.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but if attending make-up time trials vs the regular time trials is the difference between your swimmer making their A meet or not, then LC meets really don't matter for your swimmer.

Our team doesn’t do make up time trials, it seems that some do, most don’t.

Our team also will not let you use last year’s time. So, no time trials or B meet 2 days later, no first A meet.

Ours doesn’t allow make ups either and DC doesn’t want to miss a meet as it counts against you for high point, relay spots (and they go to all stars every year). Say what you will but DC make All Stars every year and loves summer swim despite being a high performing club swimmer (they aren’t mutually exclusive).

when your swimmer gets a little older, they'll realize summer swim doesn't matter

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but if attending make-up time trials vs the regular time trials is the difference between your swimmer making their A meet or not, then LC meets really don't matter for your swimmer.

Our team doesn’t do make up time trials, it seems that some do, most don’t.

Our team also will not let you use last year’s time. So, no time trials or B meet 2 days later, no first A meet.

Ours doesn’t allow make ups either and DC doesn’t want to miss a meet as it counts against you for high point, relay spots (and they go to all stars every year). Say what you will but DC make All Stars every year and loves summer swim despite being a high performing club swimmer (they aren’t mutually exclusive).

when your swimmer gets a little older, they'll realize summer swim doesn't matter

I think this I true. Seniors will be gone for a week with friends and not care. If they are serious swimmers they will often skip divisionals or all stars for the important meets.

Last year we had HS swimmers skip divisionals because they had another meet during all stars and they wanted teammates to have a chance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but if attending make-up time trials vs the regular time trials is the difference between your swimmer making their A meet or not, then LC meets really don't matter for your swimmer.

Our team doesn’t do make up time trials, it seems that some do, most don’t.

Our team also will not let you use last year’s time. So, no time trials or B meet 2 days later, no first A meet.

Ours doesn’t allow make ups either and DC doesn’t want to miss a meet as it counts against you for high point, relay spots (and they go to all stars every year). Say what you will but DC make All Stars every year and loves summer swim despite being a high performing club swimmer (they aren’t mutually exclusive).

when your swimmer gets a little older, they'll realize summer swim doesn't matter

I think this I true. Seniors will be gone for a week with friends and not care. If they are serious swimmers they will often skip divisionals or all stars for the important meets.

Last year we had HS swimmers skip divisionals because they had another meet during all stars and they wanted teammates to have a chance.

This has been my experience both as an observer and as the parent of a now older swimmer. My kid loves summer swim, don’t get me wrong, but the meets themselves, high point awards, etc. are not really important to them and their summer certainly doesn’t revolve around it. They prioritize their club schedule over their summer swim meets.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but if attending make-up time trials vs the regular time trials is the difference between your swimmer making their A meet or not, then LC meets really don't matter for your swimmer.

Our team doesn’t do make up time trials, it seems that some do, most don’t.

Our team also will not let you use last year’s time. So, no time trials or B meet 2 days later, no first A meet.

Ours doesn’t allow make ups either and DC doesn’t want to miss a meet as it counts against you for high point, relay spots (and they go to all stars every year). Say what you will but DC make All Stars every year and loves summer swim despite being a high performing club swimmer (they aren’t mutually exclusive).

when your swimmer gets a little older, they'll realize summer swim doesn't matter

I think this I true. Seniors will be gone for a week with friends and not care. If they are serious swimmers they will often skip divisionals or all stars for the important meets.

Last year we had HS swimmers skip divisionals because they had another meet during all stars and they wanted teammates to have a chance.

This has been my experience both as an observer and as the parent of a now older swimmer. My kid loves summer swim, don’t get me wrong, but the meets themselves, high point awards, etc. are not really important to them and their summer certainly doesn’t revolve around it. They prioritize their club schedule over their summer swim meets.

Ipso facto why it would make sense for FISH to hold 13O session during Saturday morning (6/7) and 12U session in the afternoon. Summer swim time trials just isn’t that big of a deal when swimmers are 13+, so skipping time trials for a LC meet is an easy choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DMV summer swim culture is so insufferable. To paraphrase the great Allen Iverson, “we’re talkin’ about rec swim time trials man, not a high level meet, rec swim time trials”.

It is people year-round swimming strutting around the rec pools like they're something, primarily just making sure the rec swimmers don't get any pool time. Oh, but if they lose, "It doesn't matter." Yet, the travel club swimming somehow just isn't as fun, but then they don't go to the rec team practices most of the time, they go to the club practices.

You should choose one or the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DMV summer swim culture is so insufferable. To paraphrase the great Allen Iverson, “we’re talkin’ about rec swim time trials man, not a high level meet, rec swim time trials”.

It is people year-round swimming strutting around the rec pools like they're something, primarily just making sure the rec swimmers don't get any pool time. Oh, but if they lose, "It doesn't matter." Yet, the travel club swimming somehow just isn't as fun, but then they don't go to the rec team practices most of the time, they go to the club practices.

You should choose one or the other.

You sound needlessly triggered here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DMV summer swim culture is so insufferable. To paraphrase the great Allen Iverson, “we’re talkin’ about rec swim time trials man, not a high level meet, rec swim time trials”.

It is people year-round swimming strutting around the rec pools like they're something, primarily just making sure the rec swimmers don't get any pool time. Oh, but if they lose, "It doesn't matter." Yet, the travel club swimming somehow just isn't as fun, but then they don't go to the rec team practices most of the time, they go to the club practices.

You should choose one or the other.

My year-round swimmer is on the younger side and _loves_ their summer swim team. DC works extremely hard all winter to be able to raise their game for summer swim. Are they supposed to hold back or skip meets so that other kids who prioritized other, different winter activities can "get pool time"? Our team fortunately is supportive of all swimmers across the board, no.matter how serious or casual they are, and everyone cheers for all the kids. No one gets extra events at B meets, and our coach actually puts kids into A meets who might not be in the highest spot on the ladder, to give them a chance when the team doesn't need points from them. I'm not sure how much more inclusive the team can get. And yes, DC practices with their club _and_ with the summer team.