Send to K or Hold?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a daughter born 14 days before our cutoff and I’m planning to hold her.

Also… I actually have three kids with fall birthdays (we’re in NY where the public school cutoff is 12/31 but most private schools are 9/1 or 10/1, except for ours). I held my oldest back, a boy, no brainer. My girls are 6 weeks and 2 weeks before the cutoff. While I think tbe decision is more nuanced for girls, I think that kids are pressured to grow up too fast these days. If they are close to the cut off and I can buy them an extra year of childhood, extra play based time, extra time without a phone, or sleepaway camps, or the pressure of high school, social media… I think that’s a good thing.

My oldest is in kindergarten (he turned 6 instead of 5) and it’s a very long, highly structured day. They get one hour of lunch and recess and that’s it for outdoor time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the issue is that kindergarten is too academic and it can be hard for kids to sit still. The research is so clear that play based curriculums are best for preschool, and it is a really abrupt shift to kindergarten, at least in most settings I am familiar with.

I don’t think you can decide now. I’d wait until it’s time to apply/register for K and decide based on what happens based on where your child is at that point. Although older kids often do better, plenty of young ones do fine too.

Its not too academic. Its school. Play based is not best for all kids. We removed our child from a play based preschool to a more academic one where they thrived and were prepared. People like you don't prepare their kids and then have all kinds of excuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Almost all modern research done with the current kindergarten curriculum points to kids, boys especially but all kids, doing drastically better at 6 rather than 5. Statistically, 5 year olds struggle an unnecessary amount more than 6 year olds.

And yes, DCUM poster whose 5 year old did *fantastic* in K and who can never ever ever IMAGINE someone making a different decision, we have heard you. Over and over again. Your anecdotal experience is not relevant when there is a plethora of data available.

Your comments are strange as you cannot compare a 5-year-old to a 6-year-old. You seem to think no one can make a different decision than you as you are the one ranting and telling people to hold back. There is also data on why you shouldn't hold back. Most studies are there to prove the evaluators point so they are extremely bias.

I have a high school kid who we sent. As a high schooler, they took classes with Sophomores to Seniors and still weren't challenged. They are the only one in their grade in a math and electives. Academics in ES were painfully slow, as were in middle school. Socially I cannot see them a year younger and that would have hurt them academically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a daughter born 14 days before our cutoff and I’m planning to hold her.

Also… I actually have three kids with fall birthdays (we’re in NY where the public school cutoff is 12/31 but most private schools are 9/1 or 10/1, except for ours). I held my oldest back, a boy, no brainer. My girls are 6 weeks and 2 weeks before the cutoff. While I think tbe decision is more nuanced for girls, I think that kids are pressured to grow up too fast these days. If they are close to the cut off and I can buy them an extra year of childhood, extra play based time, extra time without a phone, or sleepaway camps, or the pressure of high school, social media… I think that’s a good thing.

My oldest is in kindergarten (he turned 6 instead of 5) and it’s a very long, highly structured day. They get one hour of lunch and recess and that’s it for outdoor time.

Ok, lets see, you hate boys. You aren't buying your kids an extra year of childhood as that's impossible. You are slowing them down for your needs. Play based will not prepare them for school so kids will be ahead of yours. Its not a long day if you prepared your kids and they were in a full day preschool. You don't get them an extra year of sleep away camp - if you want them to stay kids, why send them away as most go by age and grade, and get off your phone if you are against social media.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the issue is that kindergarten is too academic and it can be hard for kids to sit still. The research is so clear that play based curriculums are best for preschool, and it is a really abrupt shift to kindergarten, at least in most settings I am familiar with.

I don’t think you can decide now. I’d wait until it’s time to apply/register for K and decide based on what happens based on where your child is at that point. Although older kids often do better, plenty of young ones do fine too.

Its not too academic. Its school. Play based is not best for all kids. We removed our child from a play based preschool to a more academic one where they thrived and were prepared. People like you don't prepare their kids and then have all kinds of excuses.

Uh okay. My kids are doing great in school so I don’t need excuses. Nevertheless I thought most agreed that K these days has too much sitting, too much testing, too much pressure. I think it’s a shame but my kids have been fine thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the issue is that kindergarten is too academic and it can be hard for kids to sit still. The research is so clear that play based curriculums are best for preschool, and it is a really abrupt shift to kindergarten, at least in most settings I am familiar with.

I don’t think you can decide now. I’d wait until it’s time to apply/register for K and decide based on what happens based on where your child is at that point. Although older kids often do better, plenty of young ones do fine too.

Its not too academic. Its school. Play based is not best for all kids. We removed our child from a play based preschool to a more academic one where they thrived and were prepared. People like you don't prepare their kids and then have all kinds of excuses.

Uh okay. My kids are doing great in school so I don’t need excuses. Nevertheless I thought most agreed that K these days has too much sitting, too much testing, too much pressure. I think it’s a shame but my kids have been fine thank you.

Then why not homeschool. You are making excuses and pushes others to hike back to justify your actions. Your kids are not age appropriate and that’s not healthy. I us not to much sitting and texting is necessary to make sure they are on target and don’t need extra help. How is k pressure? K is if anything very basic for those of us who worked with our kids and prepared them. I thought it was a huge waste of time as it was basically a holding grade so kids like yours could catch up to mine.

[Anonymous]

Junior Kindergarten for DC was one of the best decisions we ever made.

[Anonymous]

The redshirting topic has been done to death on this site….

But IMHO holding back/redshirting is pure advantage for your child with zero downside. Always.

Of course the peanut gallery doesn’t like that…it means they resent that you can pay for another year of daycare/preschool (so they might have to, as well).

Not even a question…if you can afford to, redshirt. Your kid will have a huge advantage. And for you, it should be about YOUR child, first and foremost. Others can do as they see fit. Not your problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The redshirting topic has been done to death on this site….

But IMHO holding back/redshirting is pure advantage for your child with zero downside. Always.

Of course the peanut gallery doesn’t like that…it means they resent that you can pay for another year of daycare/preschool (so they might have to, as well).

Not even a question…if you can afford to, redshirt. Your kid will have a huge advantage. And for you, it should be about YOUR child, first and foremost. Others can do as they see fit. Not your problem.

No, it’s not. Being older does not make you smarter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the issue is that kindergarten is too academic and it can be hard for kids to sit still. The research is so clear that play based curriculums are best for preschool, and it is a really abrupt shift to kindergarten, at least in most settings I am familiar with.

I don’t think you can decide now. I’d wait until it’s time to apply/register for K and decide based on what happens based on where your child is at that point. Although older kids often do better, plenty of young ones do fine too.

Its not too academic. Its school. Play based is not best for all kids. We removed our child from a play based preschool to a more academic one where they thrived and were prepared. People like you don't prepare their kids and then have all kinds of excuses.

Uh okay. My kids are doing great in school so I don’t need excuses. Nevertheless I thought most agreed that K these days has too much sitting, too much testing, too much pressure. I think it’s a shame but my kids have been fine thank you.

Then why not homeschool. You are making excuses and pushes others to hike back to justify your actions. Your kids are not age appropriate and that’s not healthy. I us not to much sitting and texting is necessary to make sure they are on target and don’t need extra help. How is k pressure? K is if anything very basic for those of us who worked with our kids and prepared them. I thought it was a huge waste of time as it was basically a holding grade so kids like yours could catch up to mine.

I’m sorry, why are you attacking my children? Where have I said my children had any issues in school whatsoever? What are my problematic “actions” you say I’m justifying?

I expressed an opinion on K, one I actually first heard from our K teacher by the way (things have changed and not in a good way, I do my best). I have never redshirted or done anything different with my kids as a result. They excel at school.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a daughter born 14 days before our cutoff and I’m planning to hold her.

This is dumb. Enjoy having an adult in your house still going to high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The redshirting topic has been done to death on this site….

But IMHO holding back/redshirting is pure advantage for your child with zero downside. Always.

Of course the peanut gallery doesn’t like that…it means they resent that you can pay for another year of daycare/preschool (so they might have to, as well).

Not even a question…if you can afford to, redshirt. Your kid will have a huge advantage. And for you, it should be about YOUR child, first and foremost. Others can do as they see fit. Not your problem.

No, it’s not. Being older does not make you smarter.

Some studies even say the challenge of being younger breeds long term success.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a daughter born 14 days before our cutoff and I’m planning to hold her.

This is dumb. Enjoy having an adult in your house still going to high school.

I live in New York. She would turn 18 in mid December of senior year. If I don’t redshirt her, she will turn 17 in mid December of senior year. The cut off here is very late. I will not have “an adult” living in my house any more than a parent of Jan 1st kid turning 18 two weeks later, or for that matter, any more than most of the country where the cutoff is months earlier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The redshirting topic has been done to death on this site….

But IMHO holding back/redshirting is pure advantage for your child with zero downside. Always.

Of course the peanut gallery doesn’t like that…it means they resent that you can pay for another year of daycare/preschool (so they might have to, as well).

Not even a question…if you can afford to, redshirt. Your kid will have a huge advantage. And for you, it should be about YOUR child, first and foremost. Others can do as they see fit. Not your problem.

No, it’s not. Being older does not make you smarter.

That isn’t what the PP said. There are many advantages beyond being “smarter”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a daughter born 14 days before our cutoff and I’m planning to hold her.

This is dumb. Enjoy having an adult in your house still going to high school.

Vast majority of kids in high school turn 18 at some point before gradation. Are you slow?