New VDOE Rankings of High and Secondary Schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woodson is below Hayfield?????

Something is funky with their algorithm.

Even in US News Report ranking (I know I know some of you hate it), Woodson has been declining for several years. On the other hand, Chantilly has been surging. This reflects also Rocky Run ranking here is first. All I can attribute this is to demographic change of student bodies, a sort of "gentrification" of Chantilly pyramid.

School ratings correspond largely to demographics, and Woodson slipped a bit after the boundary change that moved Fairfax Villa ES from Fairfax to Woodson. It's a less affluent area than the rest of the areas that feed into Woodson, so the ratings dropped slightly. Even so, the issue with the VDOE ratings/rankings appears to have more to do with data integrity than Woodson's demographics.

And, yes, Chantilly has become a magnet for Asian families seeking a more affordable alternative to Langley, McLean, etc. It's one of the three high schools in FCPS that are either majority (TJ) or plurality (Centreville, Chantilly) Asian. That translates into a ratings boost.

[Anonymous]

Interesting to see Oakton so high

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woodson is below Hayfield?????

Something is funky with their algorithm.

Even in US News Report ranking (I know I know some of you hate it), Woodson has been declining for several years. On the other hand, Chantilly has been surging. This reflects also Rocky Run ranking here is first. All I can attribute this is to demographic change of student bodies, a sort of "gentrification" of Chantilly pyramid.

School ratings correspond largely to demographics, and Woodson slipped a bit after the boundary change that moved Fairfax Villa ES from Fairfax to Woodson. It's a less affluent area than the rest of the areas that feed into Woodson, so the ratings dropped slightly. Even so, the issue with the VDOE ratings/rankings appears to have more to do with data integrity than Woodson's demographics.

And, yes, Chantilly has become a magnet for Asian families seeking a more affordable alternative to Langley, McLean, etc. It's one of the three high schools in FCPS that are either majority (TJ) or plurality (Centreville, Chantilly) Asian. That translates into a ratings boost.

I lived near Woodson in the 2010s, and hasn't been following up on its boundary. Surprised to see the new Woodson boundary cut Fairfax high area in half and made them disjointed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see Oakton so high

I'm not surprised.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From Reid’s weekly email:

Friday morning, the Governor of Virginia held a press conference to highlight the public release of approximate modeled school-level data based on the new Virginia Department of Education (VDOE) School Performance and Support Framework. The released data purports to show how schools would have performed if the new framework had been in place this fall, based on 2023-24 student performance.Both the framework itself and this data are unclear on several levels. The modeled data looks at past assessment results and does not account for changes in assessments or cut scores for new reading and math standards that will be in effect beginning in Spring 2025. This makes it difficult to use past performance as a reliable indicator of how students might perform on the new assessments.

Team FCPS, along with division staff around Virginia, continue to work to build understanding around the new state accountability system. Unfortunately, the released data is yet another aspect of the school performance model that remains a challenge for school divisions. The framework is a work in progress as the Virginia Department of Education rolls out ongoing updates in the details of its accountability changes. Within FCPS, we will continue to focus on the goals, metrics, and equity commitments within our Strategic Plan. We will also continue to celebrate that all our schools are accredited.

After the Hayfield football fiasco Michelle Reid needs to go. As a spokesperson for FCPS she is damaged goods.

This isn’t the news event you think it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woodson is below Hayfield?????

Something is funky with their algorithm.

Even in US News Report ranking (I know I know some of you hate it), Woodson has been declining for several years. On the other hand, Chantilly has been surging. This reflects also Rocky Run ranking here is first. All I can attribute this is to demographic change of student bodies, a sort of "gentrification" of Chantilly pyramid.

School ratings correspond largely to demographics, and Woodson slipped a bit after the boundary change that moved Fairfax Villa ES from Fairfax to Woodson. It's a less affluent area than the rest of the areas that feed into Woodson, so the ratings dropped slightly. Even so, the issue with the VDOE ratings/rankings appears to have more to do with data integrity than Woodson's demographics.

And, yes, Chantilly has become a magnet for Asian families seeking a more affordable alternative to Langley, McLean, etc. It's one of the three high schools in FCPS that are either majority (TJ) or plurality (Centreville, Chantilly) Asian. That translates into a ratings boost.

I lived near Woodson in the 2010s, and hasn't been following up on its boundary. Surprised to see the new Woodson boundary cut Fairfax high area in half and made them disjointed.

Fairfax City wanted FCPS to pull some county kids out of Fairfax HS, and FCPS obliged by moving Fairfax Villa to Woodson, which created a big Fairfax HS attendance island to the west.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see Oakton so high

Why? It has to be the 3rd richest HS in FCPS by now behind only Langley and McLean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see Oakton so high

Why? It has to be the 3rd richest HS in FCPS by now behind only Langley and McLean.

Kyle McDaniel is in that pyramid, right? He’s one of the chief architects of the boundary review and so I’m sure the school is safe from the chaos that the school board is about to wreak on the county. So corrupt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see Oakton so high

Why? It has to be the 3rd richest HS in FCPS by now behind only Langley and McLean.

Kyle McDaniel is in that pyramid, right? He’s one of the chief architects of the boundary review and so I’m sure the school is safe from the chaos that the school board is about to wreak on the county. So corrupt.

TJ 105.1
Langley 95.6
Oakton 94.5
McLean 92.2

I would love to see students who live in Falls Church that are currently at McLean HS be reassigned to Falls Church. If that happens, that will bring McLean HS to 2nd place, just behind TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Woodson is below Hayfield?????

Something is funky with their algorithm.

They’re basically ranked about the same, I wouldn’t stress too much about the ordering. It’s more interesting that certain schools are relatively high and up there with schools that have a much better reputation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see Oakton so high

Why? It has to be the 3rd richest HS in FCPS by now behind only Langley and McLean.

Kyle McDaniel is in that pyramid, right? He’s one of the chief architects of the boundary review and so I’m sure the school is safe from the chaos that the school board is about to wreak on the county. So corrupt.

TJ 105.1
Langley 95.6
Oakton 94.5
McLean 92.2

I would love to see students who live in Falls Church that are currently at McLean HS be reassigned to Falls Church. If that happens, that will bring McLean HS to 2nd place, just behind TJ.

The highest performing kids at McLean HS attend Haycock ES, which is in Falls Church. So I’m guessing you mean the Timber Lane kids further south near Route 29. Even if the McLean part of Timber Lane gets moved to Falls Church to eliminate the current attendance island/split feeder, McLean could still be behind Langley and Oakton. They are all top schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see Oakton so high

Why? It has to be the 3rd richest HS in FCPS by now behind only Langley and McLean.

Kyle McDaniel is in that pyramid, right? He’s one of the chief architects of the boundary review and so I’m sure the school is safe from the chaos that the school board is about to wreak on the county. So corrupt.

TJ 105.1
Langley 95.6
Oakton 94.5
McLean 92.2

I would love to see students who live in Falls Church that are currently at McLean HS be reassigned to Falls Church. If that happens, that will bring McLean HS to 2nd place, just behind TJ.

The highest performing kids at McLean HS attend Haycock ES, which is in Falls Church. So I’m guessing you mean the Timber Lane kids further south near Route 29. Even if the McLean part of Timber Lane gets moved to Falls Church to eliminate the current attendance island/split feeder, McLean could still be behind Langley and Oakton. They are all top schools.

Lots of McLean kids from Franklin Sherman, Kent Garden, and Chesterbrook ES go to Haycock because of the AAP program there. The easiest solution is to make a McLean HS a secondary school like LBSS or Robinson SS for ONLY McLean residents. If that happens, McLean will be in 2nd place behind TJ.

I run a $150/hour tutoring service, and over 95% of students from Churchill, Spring Hill, Potomac, Franklin Sherman, Kent Garden, Chesterbrook, Mclean HS, and Langley HS. Less than 5% of my customers are outside of McLean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see Oakton so high

Why? It has to be the 3rd richest HS in FCPS by now behind only Langley and McLean.

Kyle McDaniel is in that pyramid, right? He’s one of the chief architects of the boundary review and so I’m sure the school is safe from the chaos that the school board is about to wreak on the county. So corrupt.

TJ 105.1
Langley 95.6
Oakton 94.5
McLean 92.2

I would love to see students who live in Falls Church that are currently at McLean HS be reassigned to Falls Church. If that happens, that will bring McLean HS to 2nd place, just behind TJ.

The highest performing kids at McLean HS attend Haycock ES, which is in Falls Church. So I’m guessing you mean the Timber Lane kids further south near Route 29. Even if the McLean part of Timber Lane gets moved to Falls Church to eliminate the current attendance island/split feeder, McLean could still be behind Langley and Oakton. They are all top schools.

Lots of McLean kids from Franklin Sherman, Kent Garden, and Chesterbrook ES go to Haycock because of the AAP program there. The easiest solution is to make a McLean HS a secondary school like LBSS or Robinson SS for ONLY McLean residents. If that happens, McLean will be in 2nd place behind TJ.

I run a $150/hour tutoring service, and over 95% of students from Churchill, Spring Hill, Potomac, Franklin Sherman, Kent Garden, Chesterbrook, Mclean HS, and Langley HS. Less than 5% of my customers are outside of McLean.

What would you do with Langley at that point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see Oakton so high

Why? It has to be the 3rd richest HS in FCPS by now behind only Langley and McLean.

Kyle McDaniel is in that pyramid, right? He’s one of the chief architects of the boundary review and so I’m sure the school is safe from the chaos that the school board is about to wreak on the county. So corrupt.

TJ 105.1
Langley 95.6
Oakton 94.5
McLean 92.2

I would love to see students who live in Falls Church that are currently at McLean HS be reassigned to Falls Church. If that happens, that will bring McLean HS to 2nd place, just behind TJ.

The highest performing kids at McLean HS attend Haycock ES, which is in Falls Church. So I’m guessing you mean the Timber Lane kids further south near Route 29. Even if the McLean part of Timber Lane gets moved to Falls Church to eliminate the current attendance island/split feeder, McLean could still be behind Langley and Oakton. They are all top schools.

Lots of McLean kids from Franklin Sherman, Kent Garden, and Chesterbrook ES go to Haycock because of the AAP program there. The easiest solution is to make a McLean HS a secondary school like LBSS or Robinson SS for ONLY McLean residents. If that happens, McLean will be in 2nd place behind TJ.

I run a $150/hour tutoring service, and over 95% of students from Churchill, Spring Hill, Potomac, Franklin Sherman, Kent Garden, Chesterbrook, Mclean HS, and Langley HS. Less than 5% of my customers are outside of McLean.

That’s not going to happen and you don’t have your facts right, either. The AAP kids from Kent Gardens who want to attend an AAP center go to Churchill Road, not Haycock. And if you don’t think lots of Haycock kids who live in Falls Church get tutoring (even if not from you), you’re quite mistaken.

But, again, your suggestion is absurd. Secondary schools in FCPS are among the biggest schools in the state (Lake Braddock and Robinson, in particular). McLean HS, on the other hand, has or soon will have the smallest capacity of any HS in the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see Oakton so high

Why? It has to be the 3rd richest HS in FCPS by now behind only Langley and McLean.

Kyle McDaniel is in that pyramid, right? He’s one of the chief architects of the boundary review and so I’m sure the school is safe from the chaos that the school board is about to wreak on the county. So corrupt.

TJ 105.1
Langley 95.6
Oakton 94.5
McLean 92.2

I would love to see students who live in Falls Church that are currently at McLean HS be reassigned to Falls Church. If that happens, that will bring McLean HS to 2nd place, just behind TJ.

The highest performing kids at McLean HS attend Haycock ES, which is in Falls Church. So I’m guessing you mean the Timber Lane kids further south near Route 29. Even if the McLean part of Timber Lane gets moved to Falls Church to eliminate the current attendance island/split feeder, McLean could still be behind Langley and Oakton. They are all top schools.

Lots of McLean kids from Franklin Sherman, Kent Garden, and Chesterbrook ES go to Haycock because of the AAP program there. The easiest solution is to make a McLean HS a secondary school like LBSS or Robinson SS for ONLY McLean residents. If that happens, McLean will be in 2nd place behind TJ.

I run a $150/hour tutoring service, and over 95% of students from Churchill, Spring Hill, Potomac, Franklin Sherman, Kent Garden, Chesterbrook, Mclean HS, and Langley HS. Less than 5% of my customers are outside of McLean.

What would you do with Langley at that point?

Or Longfellow MS for that matter.