Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:So they've finally announced that a black box has been recovered from the helicopter. Previously they'd only mentioned the two black boxes from the AA plane.

I'm relieved to hear both that one exists from the helicopter and that the military is acknowledging its existence, which increases the odds that we will actually learn what is on it.

Agree

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Another plane just crashes in Philadelphia. #trumpsamerica

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Wow there are some insane paranoid freaks on this board.

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Anonymous wrote:There are numerous BH pilots saying it was the primary job of the white guy sitting in the back to make sure the area around the BH was clear. I also read that it often is 2 in back although 3 can be done. But doesn’t make sense in this airspace.

Yeah and?

What does the back crew guy do with the PIC, with one hand on cyclical, other hand on collective, and her feet on the rotors, juts up 150 ft off course and veers into middle of river suddenly right when a commercial jet descends there?

Btw this easily could have happened at runway 1 thirty seconds more down river.

This is exactly what will happen with MAGA. They’ll ignore the experts and pull $hit out of their ass to make up some narrative that of course she was a DEI hire, despite absolutely no evidence of it. The men who are alive and knew her won’t speak up on her behalf because there’s a hatred for women in the military as of 1/20/25.

Just the ones that kill 70 people in mid air.

So you’ve already tried her with all the military evidence you have, and found that not only is she guilty, but a “killer?!” Are you already trashing the two white men who did nothing to stop a helicopter that was too high, and off course in line with DCA’s runway?

As soon as you read that last sentence, is your mind now scrambling to make up more damning reasons to blame this accident solely on the actions of a single person, outside of any higher ups who gave orders, or any other culpable parties because she has to be a DEI hire for the very reason she dared to be a woman in the military?

She was in charge it’s mostly her fault.

Then what do you need her name for? To curse it?

They can keep her name, I want to see her credentials and background.

+1. And last 5-10 years of reviews

WTH? I personally knew three active duty pilots who were killed while flying. All three were white men. They got “thoughts and prayers” and “gratitude for their service and heroism.” And what killed them? Human error. Every. Single. Time. Your misogyny is pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:There are numerous BH pilots saying it was the primary job of the white guy sitting in the back to make sure the area around the BH was clear. I also read that it often is 2 in back although 3 can be done. But doesn’t make sense in this airspace.

Yeah and?

What does the back crew guy do with the PIC, with one hand on cyclical, other hand on collective, and her feet on the rotors, juts up 150 ft off course and veers into middle of river suddenly right when a commercial jet descends there?

Btw this easily could have happened at runway 1 thirty seconds more down river.

This is exactly what will happen with MAGA. They’ll ignore the experts and pull $hit out of their ass to make up some narrative that of course she was a DEI hire, despite absolutely no evidence of it. The men who are alive and knew her won’t speak up on her behalf because there’s a hatred for women in the military as of 1/20/25.

Just the ones that kill 70 people in mid air.

So you’ve already tried her with all the military evidence you have, and found that not only is she guilty, but a “killer?!” Are you already trashing the two white men who did nothing to stop a helicopter that was too high, and off course in line with DCA’s runway?

As soon as you read that last sentence, is your mind now scrambling to make up more damning reasons to blame this accident solely on the actions of a single person, outside of any higher ups who gave orders, or any other culpable parties because she has to be a DEI hire for the very reason she dared to be a woman in the military?

She was in charge it’s mostly her fault.

Then what do you need her name for? To curse it?

They can keep her name, I want to see her credentials and background.

+1. And last 5-10 years of reviews

WTH? I personally knew three active duty pilots who were killed while flying. All three were white men. They got “thoughts and prayers” and “gratitude for their service and heroism.” And what killed them? Human error. Every. Single. Time. Your misogyny is pathetic.

But did they take down a commercial jet?

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Anonymous wrote:I do think the Army has an angle here. I’m just not yet sure what it is. They aren’t doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.

Yup.

Maybe giving the family and Army time to scrub information about the pilot (IG, Facebook…). As well as allowing the family to possibly relocate to a more secure environment.

People likely have it figured out by now, who didn’t come home that night. Who was stationed here and never returned to base. It’s someone local even if they were not originally from the DMV region.

Plenty of DCUMs work on Ft. Belvoir. The tea is not being easily spilled.

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Anonymous wrote:Another plane just crashes in Philadelphia. #trumpsamerica

Small private Learjet flying for medical reasons. Hit some row houses which are now on fire.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow there are some insane paranoid freaks on this board.

Check out the Luigi’s Mangione thread and Politics threads.

Welcome to DCUM!

Came for the real estate section, stayed for the Off Topic….

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Where is it stated that the third pilot was female?

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Anonymous wrote:Where is it stated that the third pilot was female?

It’s everywhere now. But here

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/30/nx-s1-5281246/pentagon-jet-military-helicopter-collision

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Elon Musk is thrilled. He wanted this.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/elon-musk-boeing-dei-diversity-x-posts-pilots-rcna133351

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As someone who has been involved in accident investigations, I prefer that the crewmember information NOT be released at this stage. It should be anonymized during the course of the investigation, so as to avoid any risk of subconscious bias (or even the appearance of such). Let the investigation go where the data leads. Once a probable cause has been determined, IF there is reason to suspect that the skills, training or experience of the personnel were a factor, THEN proceed to examine their records to determine where those factors fell short.

The only reason to examine records at this point, before anyone has a full picture of what happened, is to scapegoat the least experienced member of the team. (And btw, it's not always the least experienced person who actually made the mistake! Another good reason to wait for the investigation to conclude on the evidence before jumping to blame any individual.)

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Anonymous wrote:It will be out by tomorrow. No way it can be kept secret for much longer. I am honestly shocked Trump hasn't blurted it out.

There’s no way he knows and hasn’t leaked it. Maybe they took away all his devices.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who has been involved in accident investigations, I prefer that the crewmember information NOT be released at this stage. It should be anonymized during the course of the investigation, so as to avoid any risk of subconscious bias (or even the appearance of such). Let the investigation go where the data leads. Once a probable cause has been determined, IF there is reason to suspect that the skills, training or experience of the personnel were a factor, THEN proceed to examine their records to determine where those factors fell short.

The only reason to examine records at this point, before anyone has a full picture of what happened, is to scapegoat the least experienced member of the team. (And btw, it's not always the least experienced person who actually made the mistake! Another good reason to wait for the investigation to conclude on the evidence before jumping to blame any individual.)

You’re too sane to be hanging around here—among all the sickos.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who has been involved in accident investigations, I prefer that the crewmember information NOT be released at this stage. It should be anonymized during the course of the investigation, so as to avoid any risk of subconscious bias (or even the appearance of such). Let the investigation go where the data leads. Once a probable cause has been determined, IF there is reason to suspect that the skills, training or experience of the personnel were a factor, THEN proceed to examine their records to determine where those factors fell short.

The only reason to examine records at this point, before anyone has a full picture of what happened, is to scapegoat the least experienced member of the team. (And btw, it's not always the least experienced person who actually made the mistake! Another good reason to wait for the investigation to conclude on the evidence before jumping to blame any individual.)

When has this ever been the case when a name has not been released? What is the precedence for this?