Gaza War, Part 3

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Read the story of Izzeddin Nawasra, a young Gazan murdered in a refugee camp by Israel this week.

It's truly heartbreaking.

My heart has turned to stone when it comes to any Jews, wherever located, who support the depraved Israeli government. Whenever they die, under any circumstances, I will feign sympathy, but in fact only think of Izzedin and wish they could have died earlier so perhaps his life could have been spared.


How about when Hamas kills its own Palestinians who were approaching an aid truck with food on it. They shot the boy to prevent him from reaching the aid so they could take it themselves.

Outraged about that? Or only at Jews?

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/b1bhublvt



I’m a DP, but this is a great example of something I do not get.

Why are you unable to look at tragedy and call it tragedy? What would it harm you to admit something terrible is happening?

Most people who want a ceasefire in Gaza also mourned the loss of Israeli, Thai, Bedouin and other lives on October 7. Why are Israel’s supporters incapable of seeing any other life as having equal meaning? It baffles me.


Simple,

With Hamas staying in power, there Will be future attacks like 10/7 on Israelis. They will happen over and over again. Leaving Hamas in power guarantees that.


Also leaving Hamas in power also is detrimental to the typical Gaza resident. All aid, food, construction materials go to build rockets and concrete tunnels, rather than schools and hospitals. If you speak up against Hamas, you will be murdered. Hamas is also holding the Palestinians hostage in yet another way.

No peace without Hamas gone. Even Egypt just brokered a deal that Hamas rejected. The deal was there was a permanent ceasefire if Hamas leaves Gaza and allows UN to run area. Israel would stop war and Hamas would need to release prisoners.

Hamas rejected the deal to keep fighting and keep power. They don’t give a darn about the typical Gaza resident. They are using them as human shields.


lol why do you lie so much? Egypt never brokered anything. Egypt had a notion, an idea that they never ran by Israel and there is no indication Israel has agreed to it. So, what deal? What ceasefire? What a liar you are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Israel, the land where you can be detained indefinitely for thought crimes (but only if you're not Jewish), for the simple fact of not being Jewish, or for not being outspoken enough in denouncing Hamas. Also, the country where people from Russian and Ukraine tell Americans that they should be subject to prosecution in the U.S. court system for criticizing the actions of the IDF!

What a country!



You have clearly never been. In the words of a great comedian, I would rather be getting head in Tel Aviv, than getting head blown off in Gaza.


What a great thing to be proud of. Just like furniture, the best bedrooms are the silent ones


upset much that people are actually free to get head in Tel Aviv?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone here read The Lemon Tree? It’s a book about the history of Isreal / Palestine incorporating personal histories of an Israeli and a Palestinian.

In that book, the Israeli (who is Jewish) notes she believes that
“the key to coexistence lay in what she called "the three A's": acknowledgment of what had happened to the Palestinians in 1948, apology for it, and amends.”

Why can’t this an approach for Israel to take?




What should’ve happened in 1948 should’ve been Jews taking over East Germany as their state and dealing with the reality of the times. Tons of ethnic groups practically have their own state in Eastern Europe and many on religious ground as well (see Bosnia and Serbia).

The existence of a Jewish state of Israel thousands of years ago in the Biblical era is an insane reason to take back a country. That’s like Muslim Jihadists wanting to take back Europe/Spain like centuries past or the Confederate or Mayflower sympathizers who want to go back to a time Past.

Imagine if Native Americans came back thousands of years from today wanting to take back the entire United States after centuries. Much like Palestinians , we would be confused. Immigration from religious or ethnic persecution is always allowed but taking back, displacing the current population from their homes , and reviving an ancient Biblical state is something different.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone here read The Lemon Tree? It’s a book about the history of Isreal / Palestine incorporating personal histories of an Israeli and a Palestinian.

In that book, the Israeli (who is Jewish) notes she believes that
“the key to coexistence lay in what she called "the three A's": acknowledgment of what had happened to the Palestinians in 1948, apology for it, and amends.”

Why can’t this an approach for Israel to take?




What should’ve happened in 1948 should’ve been Jews taking over East Germany as their state and dealing with the reality of the times. Tons of ethnic groups practically have their own state in Eastern Europe and many on religious ground as well (see Bosnia and Serbia).

The existence of a Jewish state of Israel thousands of years ago in the Biblical era is an insane reason to take back a country. That’s like Muslim Jihadists wanting to take back Europe/Spain like centuries past or the Confederate or Mayflower sympathizers who want to go back to a time Past.

Imagine if Native Americans came back thousands of years from today wanting to take back the entire United States after centuries. Much like Palestinians , we would be confused. Immigration from religious or ethnic persecution is always allowed but taking back, displacing the current population from their homes , and reviving an ancient Biblical state is something different.




Riveting analysis. Israel is there to stay, deal with it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I’m still waiting for a non-Jewish movement to bring home the hostages. It’s been almost 3 months.

Where’s Michelle Obama with a “Bring Home Or Girls” sign?


Recently referenced was the over 8,000 hostages currently in Israeli detention, held for months and years without charges filed. Can we include them in the plea for release?


These are not hostages you imbecile. They are criminals that are jailed.


If they are criminals, why have they not been charged, tried, and found guilty? Remember "innocent until proven guilty"? If you don't have habeas corpus, you are not a criminal. You have been abducted/kidnapped/held hostage.

Even when Palestinians "confess," you can't be sure they are guilty, as Israel has a nasty habit of obtaining confessions "coercively."

Israel abducts and "administratively detains" even children. These children are deprived of legal representation, held without trial, and, in some cases, verbally, physically, and sexually abused.

Remind me why we're expected to send our tax dollars to prop up this criminal enterprise of a state.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone here read The Lemon Tree? It’s a book about the history of Isreal / Palestine incorporating personal histories of an Israeli and a Palestinian.

In that book, the Israeli (who is Jewish) notes she believes that
“the key to coexistence lay in what she called "the three A's": acknowledgment of what had happened to the Palestinians in 1948, apology for it, and amends.”

Why can’t this an approach for Israel to take?




What should’ve happened in 1948 should’ve been Jews taking over East Germany as their state and dealing with the reality of the times. Tons of ethnic groups practically have their own state in Eastern Europe and many on religious ground as well (see Bosnia and Serbia).

The existence of a Jewish state of Israel thousands of years ago in the Biblical era is an insane reason to take back a country. That’s like Muslim Jihadists wanting to take back Europe/Spain like centuries past or the Confederate or Mayflower sympathizers who want to go back to a time Past.

Imagine if Native Americans came back thousands of years from today wanting to take back the entire United States after centuries. Much like Palestinians , we would be confused. Immigration from religious or ethnic persecution is always allowed but taking back, displacing the current population from their homes , and reviving an ancient Biblical state is something different.




Riveting analysis. Israel is there to stay, deal with it.


I’m fine with them staying, I would like them to use their own money to commit atrocities if they must prove to the world they’re no better than their enemies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Israel, the land where you can be detained indefinitely for thought crimes (but only if you're not Jewish), for the simple fact of not being Jewish, or for not being outspoken enough in denouncing Hamas. Also, the country where people from Russian and Ukraine tell Americans that they should be subject to prosecution in the U.S. court system for criticizing the actions of the IDF!

What a country!



You have clearly never been. In the words of a great comedian, I would rather be getting head in Tel Aviv, than getting head blown off in Gaza.


What a great thing to be proud of. Just like furniture, the best bedrooms are the silent ones


upset much that people are actually free to get head in Tel Aviv?


Well that’s nice what Israeli men have to wine and dine Palestinian men in jail can get for free from the female Israeli soldiers/guards who often get fired for relations with inmates.


Based on the amount of pregnant women and kids there alone, I don’t think Palestinian men feel deprived sexually .women probably but certainly not the guys

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Israel, the land where you can be detained indefinitely for thought crimes (but only if you're not Jewish), for the simple fact of not being Jewish, or for not being outspoken enough in denouncing Hamas. Also, the country where people from Russian and Ukraine tell Americans that they should be subject to prosecution in the U.S. court system for criticizing the actions of the IDF!

What a country!



You have clearly never been. In the words of a great comedian, I would rather be getting head in Tel Aviv, than getting head blown off in Gaza.


What a great thing to be proud of. Just like furniture, the best bedrooms are the silent ones


upset much that people are actually free to get head in Tel Aviv?


Well that’s nice what Israeli men have to wine and dine Palestinian men in jail can get for free from the female Israeli soldiers/guards who often get fired for relations with inmates.


Based on the amount of pregnant women and kids there alone, I don’t think Palestinian men feel deprived sexually .women probably but certainly not the guys



A reminder that the author of this word salad is totes okay with the Saudis.
Anonymous
I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the female hostages are pregnant by Hamas.

Sex is the only thing people in close quarters can do especially there
Anonymous
The ones they aren’t giving up to be freed are probably the ones that are pregnant. Horrifying idea yea I know but remember this post if it comes out.

I bet they will keep some till nine months are over then take the baby to raise it and release women to Israel
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Israel, the land where you can be detained indefinitely for thought crimes (but only if you're not Jewish), for the simple fact of not being Jewish, or for not being outspoken enough in denouncing Hamas. Also, the country where people from Russian and Ukraine tell Americans that they should be subject to prosecution in the U.S. court system for criticizing the actions of the IDF!

What a country!



You have clearly never been. In the words of a great comedian, I would rather be getting head in Tel Aviv, than getting head blown off in Gaza.


What a great thing to be proud of. Just like furniture, the best bedrooms are the silent ones


upset much that people are actually free to get head in Tel Aviv?


Well that’s nice what Israeli men have to wine and dine Palestinian men in jail can get for free from the female Israeli soldiers/guards who often get fired for relations with inmates.


Based on the amount of pregnant women and kids there alone, I don’t think Palestinian men feel deprived sexually .women probably but certainly not the guys



A reminder that the author of this word salad is totes okay with the Saudis.


A reminder that the author of this word salad thinks bigotry and blanket statements are normal.

I’m ok with Saudis just like I’m ok with Israelis, Palestinians, Germans, Americans, everyone . I am human just like everyone else . What are you?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone here read The Lemon Tree? It’s a book about the history of Isreal / Palestine incorporating personal histories of an Israeli and a Palestinian.

In that book, the Israeli (who is Jewish) notes she believes that
“the key to coexistence lay in what she called "the three A's": acknowledgment of what had happened to the Palestinians in 1948, apology for it, and amends.”

Why can’t this an approach for Israel to take?




What should’ve happened in 1948 should’ve been Jews taking over East Germany as their state and dealing with the reality of the times. Tons of ethnic groups practically have their own state in Eastern Europe and many on religious ground as well (see Bosnia and Serbia).

The existence of a Jewish state of Israel thousands of years ago in the Biblical era is an insane reason to take back a country. That’s like Muslim Jihadists wanting to take back Europe/Spain like centuries past or the Confederate or Mayflower sympathizers who want to go back to a time Past.

Imagine if Native Americans came back thousands of years from today wanting to take back the entire United States after centuries. Much like Palestinians , we would be confused. Immigration from religious or ethnic persecution is always allowed but taking back, displacing the current population from their homes , and reviving an ancient Biblical state is something different.




Biblical "history," as written by the ancient Hebrews -- from their own perspective, of course -- is a non-starter in determining geographical boundaries. Egypt controlled ancient Canaan before the Israelites ever did, so anyone who really wants to go back thousands of years should support returning the land to Egypt. The Israelites were just one of several primitive tribes running around the southern Levant thousands of years ago and squabbling with other tribes, and there's no particular reason why the partial descendants, after several centuries of (often) intermingling with European and other groups, of the original Israelites should have any particular claim on the land. It's like saying we can all take over Ethiopia because our ancestors from 200,000 years back, the first homo sapiens, probably started out there.

The Israeli claims to the land, based on events described in the Bible, most of which almost certainly didn't happen, are patently absurd.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone here read The Lemon Tree? It’s a book about the history of Isreal / Palestine incorporating personal histories of an Israeli and a Palestinian.

In that book, the Israeli (who is Jewish) notes she believes that
“the key to coexistence lay in what she called "the three A's": acknowledgment of what had happened to the Palestinians in 1948, apology for it, and amends.”

Why can’t this an approach for Israel to take?




What should’ve happened in 1948 should’ve been Jews taking over East Germany as their state and dealing with the reality of the times. Tons of ethnic groups practically have their own state in Eastern Europe and many on religious ground as well (see Bosnia and Serbia).

The existence of a Jewish state of Israel thousands of years ago in the Biblical era is an insane reason to take back a country. That’s like Muslim Jihadists wanting to take back Europe/Spain like centuries past or the Confederate or Mayflower sympathizers who want to go back to a time Past.

Imagine if Native Americans came back thousands of years from today wanting to take back the entire United States after centuries. Much like Palestinians , we would be confused. Immigration from religious or ethnic persecution is always allowed but taking back, displacing the current population from their homes , and reviving an ancient Biblical state is something different.




Biblical "history," as written by the ancient Hebrews -- from their own perspective, of course -- is a non-starter in determining geographical boundaries. Egypt controlled ancient Canaan before the Israelites ever did, so anyone who really wants to go back thousands of years should support returning the land to Egypt. The Israelites were just one of several primitive tribes running around the southern Levant thousands of years ago and squabbling with other tribes, and there's no particular reason why the partial descendants, after several centuries of (often) intermingling with European and other groups, of the original Israelites should have any particular claim on the land. It's like saying we can all take over Ethiopia because our ancestors from 200,000 years back, the first homo sapiens, probably started out there.

The Israeli claims to the land, based on events described in the Bible, most of which almost certainly didn't happen, are patently absurd.





I've pointed this out before, but, technically, the current Levantine Arabs (Syrians, Lebanese, Joranians, and PALESTINIANS) are ethnically closer to those Canaanites and even to the ancient Israelis than are the current modern Ashkenazi Israelis.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone here read The Lemon Tree? It’s a book about the history of Isreal / Palestine incorporating personal histories of an Israeli and a Palestinian.

In that book, the Israeli (who is Jewish) notes she believes that
“the key to coexistence lay in what she called "the three A's": acknowledgment of what had happened to the Palestinians in 1948, apology for it, and amends.”

Why can’t this an approach for Israel to take?




What should’ve happened in 1948 should’ve been Jews taking over East Germany as their state and dealing with the reality of the times. Tons of ethnic groups practically have their own state in Eastern Europe and many on religious ground as well (see Bosnia and Serbia).

The existence of a Jewish state of Israel thousands of years ago in the Biblical era is an insane reason to take back a country. That’s like Muslim Jihadists wanting to take back Europe/Spain like centuries past or the Confederate or Mayflower sympathizers who want to go back to a time Past.

Imagine if Native Americans came back thousands of years from today wanting to take back the entire United States after centuries. Much like Palestinians , we would be confused. Immigration from religious or ethnic persecution is always allowed but taking back, displacing the current population from their homes , and reviving an ancient Biblical state is something different.




Biblical "history," as written by the ancient Hebrews -- from their own perspective, of course -- is a non-starter in determining geographical boundaries. Egypt controlled ancient Canaan before the Israelites ever did, so anyone who really wants to go back thousands of years should support returning the land to Egypt. The Israelites were just one of several primitive tribes running around the southern Levant thousands of years ago and squabbling with other tribes, and there's no particular reason why the partial descendants, after several centuries of (often) intermingling with European and other groups, of the original Israelites should have any particular claim on the land. It's like saying we can all take over Ethiopia because our ancestors from 200,000 years back, the first homo sapiens, probably started out there.

The Israeli claims to the land, based on events described in the Bible, most of which almost certainly didn't happen, are patently absurd.




Well, maybe the Italians should invade Israel and Palestine together and bring back the Roman Empire so hopefully we’ll be finished with both their drama. We’ll see how well they can get along then . Once a new bad actor comes along, you will see how close both can become
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Israel, the land where you can be detained indefinitely for thought crimes (but only if you're not Jewish), for the simple fact of not being Jewish, or for not being outspoken enough in denouncing Hamas. Also, the country where people from Russian and Ukraine tell Americans that they should be subject to prosecution in the U.S. court system for criticizing the actions of the IDF!

What a country!



You have clearly never been. In the words of a great comedian, I would rather be getting head in Tel Aviv, than getting head blown off in Gaza.


What a great thing to be proud of. Just like furniture, the best bedrooms are the silent ones


upset much that people are actually free to get head in Tel Aviv?


Well that’s nice what Israeli men have to wine and dine Palestinian men in jail can get for free from the female Israeli soldiers/guards who often get fired for relations with inmates.


Based on the amount of pregnant women and kids there alone, I don’t think Palestinian men feel deprived sexually .women probably but certainly not the guys



Is that why they went in a raping rampage in 🇮🇱 because they are “not deprived”?
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