Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, what does this have to do with Epstein again?

Everything.
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Get ready Altoona!
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Anonymous wrote:His escape route apparently does not appear sophisticated the way he jumped off the building, ran across the lawn and then across the street - with no waiting car anywhere. Seems like an unsophisticated lone shooter.


I respectfully disagree.

If he would have gotten into a vehicle on the road in that area we would be able to track him much more easily.

He knew that area very well and knew exactly where to jump off that building.
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Anonymous wrote:The limp is fake. He knows we analyze for stride.


You think he might be former law enforcement?


Listen to all of law-enforcement on media. He wasn’t wearing gloves when he went down the staircase. He’s touching the staircases in very specific areas that they have on video and now they will test or have already tested for DNA. Very sloppy. There’s way too many leads.

He may not have a record to identify his prints.


Military takes DNA samples of all incoming members. They’d have a record of his in a database if he was/is military
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Anonymous wrote:So much support for Charlie out there (in the real world) tonight! It honestly warms my heart that goodness and love are louder than the evil and hate that a select few are putting out over this.

This forum is like a sad underworld projection of reality. Your extreme comments and vitriol for anyone that disagrees with you are what creates the monsters that do something like this. People like these posters have turned a debate partner into a villain.


Agreed. The Epstein files need to be released to honor his memory and the Finance Committee needs to release their report. Let his symbolic last act be exposing the way money and power among our political and economic elites have corrupted our society.


I’m new here. What do the Epstein files have to do with this? I thought this was supposed to be a liberal trans shooter?


Charlie Kirk was one of the loudest and most prominent voices advocating for their release. That's the issue he galvanized his following around.

A little over a month ago, Trump personally asked him to stop talking about them and to stop calling for their release. He agreed.

On Monday he started talking about it again.
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Anonymous wrote:The limp is fake. He knows we analyze for stride.


You think he might be former law enforcement?


Listen to all of law-enforcement on media. He wasn’t wearing gloves when he went down the staircase. He’s touching the staircases in very specific areas that they have on video and now they will test or have already tested for DNA. Very sloppy. There’s way too many leads.


Yes if he was law enforcement and not utterly stupid he wouldn’t have touched anything without gloves on - including the edge of the rooftop.

He clearly planned pretty meticulously in advance so my guess, as a former LEO myself, is that he’s confident his prints and DNA are not in the system anywhere - but that’s risky considering genetic genealogy where they find him through some cousin who did 23&Me.

How dirty and contaminated are those handrails though? Good luck narrowing that down.
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Anonymous wrote:The limp is fake. He knows we analyze for stride.


You think he might be former law enforcement?


Listen to all of law-enforcement on media. He wasn’t wearing gloves when he went down the staircase. He’s touching the staircases in very specific areas that they have on video and now they will test or have already tested for DNA. Very sloppy. There’s way too many leads.

He may not have a record to identify his prints.


Military takes DNA samples of all incoming members. They’d have a record of his in a database if he was/is military

He’s not military imo.
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Charlie Kirk predicted his own death at the hands of Israel, should he turn against them.

In his very last show, which aired 48 hours before he was shot, he turned on Israel.

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There's a whole range of different reasons why a whole range of different people might want Charlie Kirk dead.



I’m interested in who, if you don’t mind sharing. I’m genuinely asking - I didn’t know who Kirk was and now I’ve seen a bunch of his clips. He just seemed very very Christian to me but not a “threat”. So I’m intrigued on which groups would want him silenced.


Same here. What’s the big beef with him? He seems like an excellent debater.
Somehow a lot of my amidst friends know of him in Chicago. And his wife played hoops at college!?


Do more research besides whatever your Facebook or Instagram reels are showing you. Please. Our country’s future depends on looking deeper than what our algorithms are showing us.


I see short clips out of context and then the longer talks are Socratic talks. Which ones should I watch?


Here’s a great summary, with links to the speeches and podcasts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/us/charlie-kirk-views-guns-gender-climate.html


Quote from NYT…

“ He was a proponent of “replacement theory,” a once-fringe conspiracy theory positing that Jews are trying to replace white Americans with nonwhite immigrants. That ideology motivated the gunman who killed 11 worshipers at a Pittsburgh synagogue in 2018.”

I never really understood why they thought Jews were trying to replace them. Why?
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I never heard of this guy before and I’m so sad about his death. He was a young guy, seemed smart, had a lovely family. What a tragedy!

But I have to say, when you listen to what he stood for, it’s appalling! The racial stuff!!! He laughed at Paul Pelosi being attacked. I feel so bad his life was snuffed out - I really have a hard time a guy that articulate and intelligent wasn’t about to make a pretty big change in the way he talked now that he had a family.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, what does this have to do with Epstein again?

Everything.


Explain ? Synopsis??
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If he was ever active duty or gone through any kind of clearance process we would have his prints on record and be able to identify off of partials.

If he was either of the above, they may be withholding information until they can capture him.
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There's a whole range of different reasons why a whole range of different people might want Charlie Kirk dead.



I’m interested in who, if you don’t mind sharing. I’m genuinely asking - I didn’t know who Kirk was and now I’ve seen a bunch of his clips. He just seemed very very Christian to me but not a “threat”. So I’m intrigued on which groups would want him silenced.


Same here. What’s the big beef with him? He seems like an excellent debater.
Somehow a lot of my amidst friends know of him in Chicago. And his wife played hoops at college!?


Do more research besides whatever your Facebook or Instagram reels are showing you. Please. Our country’s future depends on looking deeper than what our algorithms are showing us.


I see short clips out of context and then the longer talks are Socratic talks. Which ones should I watch?


Here’s a great summary, with links to the speeches and podcasts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/us/charlie-kirk-views-guns-gender-climate.html


Quote from NYT…

“ He was a proponent of “replacement theory,” a once-fringe conspiracy theory positing that Jews are trying to replace white Americans with nonwhite immigrants. That ideology motivated the gunman who killed 11 worshipers at a Pittsburgh synagogue in 2018.”

I never really understood why they thought Jews were trying to replace them. Why?


It’s a nonsensical theory, but the idea is that Jews think they can trick and control minorities and immigrants into voting against the interests of white people.

Why Jewish people, who most people would regard as white, would do this… yeah it doesn’t make sense but it was something Kirk believed.
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Anonymous wrote:The limp is fake. He knows we analyze for stride.


You think he might be former law enforcement?


Listen to all of law-enforcement on media. He wasn’t wearing gloves when he went down the staircase. He’s touching the staircases in very specific areas that they have on video and now they will test or have already tested for DNA. Very sloppy. There’s way too many leads.

He may not have a record to identify his prints.


Military takes DNA samples of all incoming members. They’d have a record of his in a database if he was/is military


They won't have his prints if he's IDF/Mossad.
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