Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Come on. It’s a huge public FU because people track that.

Did you not see the absolute sh-t storm when Travis unfollowed Ryan? They knew that it would be public with an hour. It’s a public way of saying I no longer like this person without having to put out a statement and if you don’t think it has impact, look at the Sony executives absolutely freaking out when it happened because they were afraid of what it would do to the movie. It mattered a lot.

But yes, it’s incredibly childish. It’s just a bunch of toddlers lashing out.

Yes, I see that some people online are obsessive about finding out which celebs follow others and post reddit threads and speculate about it. I have seen those headlines.

But it also seems to me that the obvious response to that would be "guys, it doesn't matter, it's just social media." People will get worked up about anything, but they forget about it the next day. The news cycle is always churning and this isn't actually important.

I just tend to think that could have been handled by just telling anyone who asks that it's not important, and they want to talk about the movie.

I guess I don't view it as childish to unfollow (why follow someone you actively don't like). I do think it's childish to care. Just let it go. Like in the example of Jenny Slate, she says she unfollowed because she didn't want to help Justin promote a "feminist ally" brand that she thought was BS, and I think that was a genuinely held opinion from her, not something she was talked into. She's entitled to that. But also -- who cares? Just move on. It's the fixating on this that I think is infantile.

Have to hard disagree about Slate. She literally was at Blake’s beck and call, and did everything Blake asked her to, it’s all in the texts. Blake even basically scripted Slate’s housing complaint.

Wasn't Slate the first to unfollow though? And also, I don't think Baldoni even noticed he was being unfollowed until Ryan did it. At least, that's what I remember from his texts with Abel.

I think it's pretty clear from Slate's depo and texts that she really disliked Justin from the jump and didn't need encouragement from Blake. She also really clearly articulates her issue with him. It's not like "I just didn't like him" or "he gave me the creeps." She considered him a fraud because he presents as an ally to women and then his in person behavior is... not that. Blake doesn't even express it that clearly, so I don't think Jenny is getting that from Blake.

Jenny slate is the only person involved in this with critical thinking skills. She was valedictorian at one of the best prep schools in the country and then went to an Ivy League college.

Probably smart that she opted not to join the lawsuit. Apparently Feedman bragged that he blasted her and effectively scared her off. I don't like that tactic, but ultimately she was wise not to get involved.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Come on. It’s a huge public FU because people track that.

Did you not see the absolute sh-t storm when Travis unfollowed Ryan? They knew that it would be public with an hour. It’s a public way of saying I no longer like this person without having to put out a statement and if you don’t think it has impact, look at the Sony executives absolutely freaking out when it happened because they were afraid of what it would do to the movie. It mattered a lot.

But yes, it’s incredibly childish. It’s just a bunch of toddlers lashing out.

Yes, I see that some people online are obsessive about finding out which celebs follow others and post reddit threads and speculate about it. I have seen those headlines.

But it also seems to me that the obvious response to that would be "guys, it doesn't matter, it's just social media." People will get worked up about anything, but they forget about it the next day. The news cycle is always churning and this isn't actually important.

I just tend to think that could have been handled by just telling anyone who asks that it's not important, and they want to talk about the movie.

I guess I don't view it as childish to unfollow (why follow someone you actively don't like). I do think it's childish to care. Just let it go. Like in the example of Jenny Slate, she says she unfollowed because she didn't want to help Justin promote a "feminist ally" brand that she thought was BS, and I think that was a genuinely held opinion from her, not something she was talked into. She's entitled to that. But also -- who cares? Just move on. It's the fixating on this that I think is infantile.

Have to hard disagree about Slate. She literally was at Blake’s beck and call, and did everything Blake asked her to, it’s all in the texts. Blake even basically scripted Slate’s housing complaint.

Wasn't Slate the first to unfollow though? And also, I don't think Baldoni even noticed he was being unfollowed until Ryan did it. At least, that's what I remember from his texts with Abel.

I think it's pretty clear from Slate's depo and texts that she really disliked Justin from the jump and didn't need encouragement from Blake. She also really clearly articulates her issue with him. It's not like "I just didn't like him" or "he gave me the creeps." She considered him a fraud because he presents as an ally to women and then his in person behavior is... not that. Blake doesn't even express it that clearly, so I don't think Jenny is getting that from Blake.

Jenny slate is the only person involved in this with critical thinking skills. She was valedictorian at one of the best prep schools in the country and then went to an Ivy League college.

Probably smart that she opted not to join the lawsuit. Apparently Feedman bragged that he blasted her and effectively scared her off. I don't like that tactic, but ultimately she was wise not to get involved.

Jenny wrote a book in 2019 that was a best seller and did quite well. She then put out a book in fall 2024 after all of this nonsense and Blake did an Instagram post recommending it. Needless to say the book bombed. You can look it up on Amazon. It hit in the 300,000 for books which means it probably sold less than 10,000 copies total.

Now who knows maybe the 2019 book was far superior and the 2024 book was not but I found that pretty telling. I don’t think this is helping people‘s careers. It’s possible the drama helped the movie do well but the fallout since is not helping anyone. Taylor Swift certainly couldn’t be trying to distance herself more.

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Justin seemed to hate Blake from the beginning, which is why it's hard to believe he intended to sexually harass her. I understand that predators don't have to "like" the victim and that harassment can stem from a desire to put someone in their place, but Justin's dislike really feels like an exasperated "I-can't-wait-until-this-is-over" type of dislike.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Come on. It’s a huge public FU because people track that.

Did you not see the absolute sh-t storm when Travis unfollowed Ryan? They knew that it would be public with an hour. It’s a public way of saying I no longer like this person without having to put out a statement and if you don’t think it has impact, look at the Sony executives absolutely freaking out when it happened because they were afraid of what it would do to the movie. It mattered a lot.

But yes, it’s incredibly childish. It’s just a bunch of toddlers lashing out.

Yes, I see that some people online are obsessive about finding out which celebs follow others and post reddit threads and speculate about it. I have seen those headlines.

But it also seems to me that the obvious response to that would be "guys, it doesn't matter, it's just social media." People will get worked up about anything, but they forget about it the next day. The news cycle is always churning and this isn't actually important.

I just tend to think that could have been handled by just telling anyone who asks that it's not important, and they want to talk about the movie.

I guess I don't view it as childish to unfollow (why follow someone you actively don't like). I do think it's childish to care. Just let it go. Like in the example of Jenny Slate, she says she unfollowed because she didn't want to help Justin promote a "feminist ally" brand that she thought was BS, and I think that was a genuinely held opinion from her, not something she was talked into. She's entitled to that. But also -- who cares? Just move on. It's the fixating on this that I think is infantile.

Have to hard disagree about Slate. She literally was at Blake’s beck and call, and did everything Blake asked her to, it’s all in the texts. Blake even basically scripted Slate’s housing complaint.

Wasn't Slate the first to unfollow though? And also, I don't think Baldoni even noticed he was being unfollowed until Ryan did it. At least, that's what I remember from his texts with Abel.

I think it's pretty clear from Slate's depo and texts that she really disliked Justin from the jump and didn't need encouragement from Blake. She also really clearly articulates her issue with him. It's not like "I just didn't like him" or "he gave me the creeps." She considered him a fraud because he presents as an ally to women and then his in person behavior is... not that. Blake doesn't even express it that clearly, so I don't think Jenny is getting that from Blake.

Jenny slate is the only person involved in this with critical thinking skills. She was valedictorian at one of the best prep schools in the country and then went to an Ivy League college.

Probably smart that she opted not to join the lawsuit. Apparently Feedman bragged that he blasted her and effectively scared her off. I don't like that tactic, but ultimately she was wise not to get involved.

She probably is smart enough to realize a lawsuit based on being called “sexy” when the term was widely used by by both men and women on set was going no where.

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Anonymous wrote:Justin seemed to hate Blake from the beginning, which is why it's hard to believe he intended to sexually harass her. I understand that predators don't have to "like" the victim and that harassment can stem from a desire to put someone in their place, but Justin's dislike really feels like an exasperated "I-can't-wait-until-this-is-over" type of dislike.

Her entire case against Justin seems to be limited to the kiss in the dance scene and the fact that he asked her to go topless in the birthing scene. Interestingly, Liman recognizes that actors doing love scenes at work is different from accounting coworkers at an audit.

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Anonymous wrote:Justin seemed to hate Blake from the beginning, which is why it's hard to believe he intended to sexually harass her. I understand that predators don't have to "like" the victim and that harassment can stem from a desire to put someone in their place, but Justin's dislike really feels like an exasperated "I-can't-wait-until-this-is-over" type of dislike.

They seemed ro hate each other. Sometimes its like that

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Anonymous wrote:I'll take a mean girl over the sexist, misogynistic pigs who have their own problems with race. It's a lesser of the evils with 2 bad choices.

The mean girl sex pest? Good for you, may your career do as well as hers in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll take a mean girl over the sexist, misogynistic pigs who have their own problems with race. It's a lesser of the evils with 2 bad choices.

The mean girl sex pest? Good for you, may your career do as well as hers in the future.

Blake needs to be called a sex pest from now on with her pimp, boob and anal jokes.

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Anonymous wrote:Justin seemed to hate Blake from the beginning, which is why it's hard to believe he intended to sexually harass her. I understand that predators don't have to "like" the victim and that harassment can stem from a desire to put someone in their place, but Justin's dislike really feels like an exasperated "I-can't-wait-until-this-is-over" type of dislike.

They seemed ro hate each other. Sometimes its like that

I don’t get the sense he hated her until she started making demands about wardrobe, where the movie was ro be filmed, rewriting the script, firing ADs etc. .. But no doubt she was referring to him as a doofus and clown before they even started working together and she was sending him texts about her love language.

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Blake herself says Justin is scared of her and the other women on set, but believes he's a dangerous predator? I'm so confused.

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Anonymous wrote:So now people are deep diving into Colleen Hoover lol. She started a charity that is now defunct, but 11% of the proceeds raised went to actual charity.

Also, she bought a lot of books for the charity, special editions, but a lot went was her own stuff.

In other words, it was a complete disaster and seems unethical

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/473144482

Of course they are, because she doesn't like Justin because of his behavior at that dinner where he was trying to get her on his side.

I find it crazy that people think all of these people organically liked Blake more than Justin. People fawn over celebrity and power b/c they’re hoping it will benefit them, then like we saw with Sony they privately say how they really feel. It’s honestly not that hard to understand. The idea that the entire cast just organically turned against Justin is completely unhinged from reality.

Also Blake is simply not beating those racism allegations. She cozied up to everyone on the cast except the people of color: Justin (who she clearly sees as middle eastern given the Aladdin gif), Jamey and Hasan Minhaj (who was like I have no clue what’s going on).

I agree with you - very well said.

A site I love pointed out that Blake Lively said (African-American) Jamey Heath was “treating the set like a BBQ” in a text.
I really loathe her. I’ll leave it there.

WOW. How is anyone still defending this woman!!

NP but I don't get what the issue is here with this statement. This is an expression that isn't uncommon for when something is more casual than it should be. A BBQ is a casual get together - so treating the set like its a BBQ to me says, it is too casual and not professional enough. I don't get what the other meaning of it is that you are offended by.

NP, if it were a one off, perhaps. But pair that with calling Baldoni Aladdin, getting married on a plantation and setting up dinner next to slave cabins (which you can see in the pictures), a lifestyle company romanticizing the antebellum south, wearing blackface and an Afro, and just generally how Blake moves. BBQ is triggering OP in the same way watermelon or fried chicken would. These are things are big in black culture. There’s even a movie called the cookout. With Blake’s history, the presumption is she’s using it pejoratively. B/c of her problematic past, she’s not given the benefit of the doubt. Can’t say I blame OP for seeing sinister intent in the comment.

Who cares? Jamey Heath is a creepy pervo weirdo. Nobody should invite him to a bbq.

I just explains to you why some might be offended by Blake’s comment and this is your response? Disgusting. Guess this is Trump’s America.

I don't give AF. The rampant homophobia displayed by Baldoni's fans is gross.

Got it. So “democrats” like you care about gay rights but not racism against the people who vote democrat most consistently. Not smart.

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Anonymous wrote:So now people are deep diving into Colleen Hoover lol. She started a charity that is now defunct, but 11% of the proceeds raised went to actual charity.

Also, she bought a lot of books for the charity, special editions, but a lot went was her own stuff.

In other words, it was a complete disaster and seems unethical

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/473144482

Of course they are, because she doesn't like Justin because of his behavior at that dinner where he was trying to get her on his side.

I find it crazy that people think all of these people organically liked Blake more than Justin. People fawn over celebrity and power b/c they’re hoping it will benefit them, then like we saw with Sony they privately say how they really feel. It’s honestly not that hard to understand. The idea that the entire cast just organically turned against Justin is completely unhinged from reality.

Also Blake is simply not beating those racism allegations. She cozied up to everyone on the cast except the people of color: Justin (who she clearly sees as middle eastern given the Aladdin gif), Jamey and Hasan Minhaj (who was like I have no clue what’s going on).

I agree with you - very well said.

A site I love pointed out that Blake Lively said (African-American) Jamey Heath was “treating the set like a BBQ” in a text.
I really loathe her. I’ll leave it there.

WOW. How is anyone still defending this woman!!

NP but I don't get what the issue is here with this statement. This is an expression that isn't uncommon for when something is more casual than it should be. A BBQ is a casual get together - so treating the set like its a BBQ to me says, it is too casual and not professional enough. I don't get what the other meaning of it is that you are offended by.

NP, if it were a one off, perhaps. But pair that with calling Baldoni Aladdin, getting married on a plantation and setting up dinner next to slave cabins (which you can see in the pictures), a lifestyle company romanticizing the antebellum south, wearing blackface and an Afro, and just generally how Blake moves. BBQ is triggering OP in the same way watermelon or fried chicken would. These are things are big in black culture. There’s even a movie called the cookout. With Blake’s history, the presumption is she’s using it pejoratively. B/c of her problematic past, she’s not given the benefit of the doubt. Can’t say I blame OP for seeing sinister intent in the comment.

Who cares? Jamey Heath is a creepy pervo weirdo. Nobody should invite him to a bbq.

I just explains to you why some might be offended by Blake’s comment and this is your response? Disgusting. Guess this is Trump’s America.

I don't give AF. The rampant homophobia displayed by Baldoni's fans is gross.

Got it. So “democrats” like you care about gay rights but not racism against the people who vote democrat most consistently. Not smart.

Weird that your beloved Wayfarer was sued for racially discriminating against a former employee but you're out there carrying water for them. Self loathing?

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Anonymous wrote:Source for Baldoni's parents being MAGA? I read his depo and to me it came off like he was laughing at the idea of him being with "red hats" because it's far from his worldview. (PP who thinks his supporters are SJW).

Sorry there was a Reddit thread that put together a series of articles, etc on them. I can’t find it so I will retract that statement. But the rest is easily backed up by a quick google search, especially the associations of his lawyers and representatives.

Once again, it’s all bs. Keep calling her out on it.

And if you are also the poster making representations about the case law last night, I am still waiting for the cites for that.

Then address the actions of his lawyer and representatives. Why are they clearly cultivating support from conservative media and conservative supporters? And why can’t you address it? And if Justin is big on social justice and feminism, why is he allowing it?

Baldoni supporters are all over this thread bringing up nonsense that has nothing to do with this case. I think it’s well within the realm of discussion to address his team, given what happened in Depp v Heard.

Also not the person you ask for case cites.

Oh please, you falsely have claimed he is MAGA and previously, that anyone that posts on “It Ends with Lawsuits” is MAGA. This is clearly a “you” issue.

Meanwhile, you are stanning Mean Girl Blake who got married on a plantation and only made friends with the white people on the set IEWU, thinks it’s funny to mock the religion of others and uses an Alladin emojito refer to Justin because she is mistakenly of the belief he is Middleeastern due to his faith. Can’t see the forest for the trees, apparently.

+100, I'm a middle eastern woman, and I support Baldoni. I was also an Amber Heard supporter during that debacle. The blatant racism from Lively and Reynolds among many other heinous things is enough to make me sick. I can't believe anyone is defending these psychopaths who don't give a crap about anyone but themselves and throw around lawsuits for fun.

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Anonymous wrote:So now people are deep diving into Colleen Hoover lol. She started a charity that is now defunct, but 11% of the proceeds raised went to actual charity.

Also, she bought a lot of books for the charity, special editions, but a lot went was her own stuff.

In other words, it was a complete disaster and seems unethical

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/473144482

Of course they are, because she doesn't like Justin because of his behavior at that dinner where he was trying to get her on his side.

I find it crazy that people think all of these people organically liked Blake more than Justin. People fawn over celebrity and power b/c they’re hoping it will benefit them, then like we saw with Sony they privately say how they really feel. It’s honestly not that hard to understand. The idea that the entire cast just organically turned against Justin is completely unhinged from reality.

Also Blake is simply not beating those racism allegations. She cozied up to everyone on the cast except the people of color: Justin (who she clearly sees as middle eastern given the Aladdin gif), Jamey and Hasan Minhaj (who was like I have no clue what’s going on).

I agree with you - very well said.

A site I love pointed out that Blake Lively said (African-American) Jamey Heath was “treating the set like a BBQ” in a text.
I really loathe her. I’ll leave it there.

WOW. How is anyone still defending this woman!!

NP but I don't get what the issue is here with this statement. This is an expression that isn't uncommon for when something is more casual than it should be. A BBQ is a casual get together - so treating the set like its a BBQ to me says, it is too casual and not professional enough. I don't get what the other meaning of it is that you are offended by.

NP, if it were a one off, perhaps. But pair that with calling Baldoni Aladdin, getting married on a plantation and setting up dinner next to slave cabins (which you can see in the pictures), a lifestyle company romanticizing the antebellum south, wearing blackface and an Afro, and just generally how Blake moves. BBQ is triggering OP in the same way watermelon or fried chicken would. These are things are big in black culture. There’s even a movie called the cookout. With Blake’s history, the presumption is she’s using it pejoratively. B/c of her problematic past, she’s not given the benefit of the doubt. Can’t say I blame OP for seeing sinister intent in the comment.

Who cares? Jamey Heath is a creepy pervo weirdo. Nobody should invite him to a bbq.

I just explains to you why some might be offended by Blake’s comment and this is your response? Disgusting. Guess this is Trump’s America.

I don't give AF. The rampant homophobia displayed by Baldoni's fans is gross.

Got it. So “democrats” like you care about gay rights but not racism against the people who vote democrat most consistently. Not smart.

Just ignore her nonsense. There has been no “rampant homophobia by Baldoni fans,” she is just throwing whatever she can in the air as Blake goes down in flames.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake herself says Justin is scared of her and the other women on set, but believes he's a dangerous predator? I'm so confused.

+1 she is a big star and is married to a big star. It doesn’t make sense he would date to harass her.

He does seem weird though and she is dim, so there’s that.