ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:MLS will not change to SY. It’s the U.S. top pro league and to maintain some credibility, it’s going to stay BY like the rest of the world. However, they would support ECNL going SY and further separate themselves from those whose aspirations are primarily playing in college.

At the end of the day, if high level D1 is mostly older internationals from youth academies an abroad, the focus of MLSNext should be do to develop players who want to get there.

100% agree, on the boys/mens side who moves to the next level is more about ability than connections.

In 10 years the women's game will be headed this way as well.

What are people going to do when colleges start dropping soccer programs because they need to start paying players and college soccer isn't profitable.

Where will all the SY people be then when the small number of college teams only recruit from the same pools as the USYNT.

Seems like SY would still be correct for 99.99% of kids in that hypothetical, so I would guess the SY people will feel vindicated. Further, if there's a split in cutoffs, the BY leagues feeding into pros/YNT will be even smaller, as they will lose a lot of kids playing the pro pathway knowing that their real goal is just to play in college.

That's weird logic but whatever.

College recruiters will find talent wherever it's available.

Changing from BY to SY will hurt US players internationally. It won't affect college recruiting because coaches only look at players they are already in contact with. Coaches do not walk around looking at random games shopping for players.

Let's look at the RAE and the effect switching from BY to SY will have on US players ability to play internationally.

Most countries grouo players by year. This means in general because of REA Jan birthdays will have the most advantages. But if youth soccer in America switches from BY to SY suddenly the advantage goes to July birthdays. This means internationally all players will have a 6 month RAE advantage over Americans.

I know you're going to say something like that only effects 1% of players. But I also know you're going to be the drunk loud mouth moaning about know the USMNT or USWNT are no longer competitive and bla bla bla.

LOL. The issues with USMNT or USWNT is not going to be affected or worsened by a 6 month RAE disadvantage. That is the dumbest thing said today.

I just don’t get the comments about the effect on NT or WNL. The change mainly affects young players. Don’t YNT scouts recruit players based on BY? I don’t understand the several comments about the change affecting the national team. A talented player is going to be scouted whether he plays U17 or U16 or whatever.

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Anonymous wrote:MLS will not change to SY. It’s the U.S. top pro league and to maintain some credibility, it’s going to stay BY like the rest of the world. However, they would support ECNL going SY and further separate themselves from those whose aspirations are primarily playing in college.

At the end of the day, if high level D1 is mostly older internationals from youth academies an abroad, the focus of MLSNext should be do to develop players who want to get there.

100% agree, on the boys/mens side who moves to the next level is more about ability than connections.

In 10 years the women's game will be headed this way as well.

What are people going to do when colleges start dropping soccer programs because they need to start paying players and college soccer isn't profitable.

Where will all the SY people be then when the small number of college teams only recruit from the same pools as the USYNT.

Seems like SY would still be correct for 99.99% of kids in that hypothetical, so I would guess the SY people will feel vindicated. Further, if there's a split in cutoffs, the BY leagues feeding into pros/YNT will be even smaller, as they will lose a lot of kids playing the pro pathway knowing that their real goal is just to play in college.

That's weird logic but whatever.

College recruiters will find talent wherever it's available.

Changing from BY to SY will hurt US players internationally. It won't affect college recruiting because coaches only look at players they are already in contact with. Coaches do not walk around looking at random games shopping for players.

Let's look at the RAE and the effect switching from BY to SY will have on US players ability to play internationally.

Most countries grouo players by year. This means in general because of REA Jan birthdays will have the most advantages. But if youth soccer in America switches from BY to SY suddenly the advantage goes to July birthdays. This means internationally all players will have a 6 month RAE advantage over Americans.

I know you're going to say something like that only effects 1% of players. But I also know you're going to be the drunk loud mouth moaning about know the USMNT or USWNT are no longer competitive and bla bla bla.

This is so stupid. All the national teams and ODP will stay birth year. If a kid is good enough to play "internationally" literally everyone in all 50 states will know who they are. They are the kid that always gets invited to ID camps, that makes the ODP national team, that plays 2 years up at a top 10 club, that plays on a MLS Next boys team, etc etc. Moving to SY from BY matters literally zero in identifying the top 20/50/100 players in any given year. They have been on a clipboard since they were 12...........

So now RAE doesn't affect things.

For the record I think RAE is BS.

But I also find it ridiculous that the SY people use it as a talking point when it helps and ignore it when it doesn't.

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Anonymous wrote:MLS will not change to SY. It’s the U.S. top pro league and to maintain some credibility, it’s going to stay BY like the rest of the world. However, they would support ECNL going SY and further separate themselves from those whose aspirations are primarily playing in college.

At the end of the day, if high level D1 is mostly older internationals from youth academies an abroad, the focus of MLSNext should be do to develop players who want to get there.

100% agree, on the boys/mens side who moves to the next level is more about ability than connections.

In 10 years the women's game will be headed this way as well.

What are people going to do when colleges start dropping soccer programs because they need to start paying players and college soccer isn't profitable.

Where will all the SY people be then when the small number of college teams only recruit from the same pools as the USYNT.

Seems like SY would still be correct for 99.99% of kids in that hypothetical, so I would guess the SY people will feel vindicated. Further, if there's a split in cutoffs, the BY leagues feeding into pros/YNT will be even smaller, as they will lose a lot of kids playing the pro pathway knowing that their real goal is just to play in college.

That's weird logic but whatever.

College recruiters will find talent wherever it's available.

Changing from BY to SY will hurt US players internationally. It won't affect college recruiting because coaches only look at players they are already in contact with. Coaches do not walk around looking at random games shopping for players.

Let's look at the RAE and the effect switching from BY to SY will have on US players ability to play internationally.

Most countries grouo players by year. This means in general because of REA Jan birthdays will have the most advantages. But if youth soccer in America switches from BY to SY suddenly the advantage goes to July birthdays. This means internationally all players will have a 6 month RAE advantage over Americans.

I know you're going to say something like that only effects 1% of players. But I also know you're going to be the drunk loud mouth moaning about know the USMNT or USWNT are no longer competitive and bla bla bla.

This is so stupid. All the national teams and ODP will stay birth year. If a kid is good enough to play "internationally" literally everyone in all 50 states will know who they are. They are the kid that always gets invited to ID camps, that makes the ODP national team, that plays 2 years up at a top 10 club, that plays on a MLS Next boys team, etc etc. Moving to SY from BY matters literally zero in identifying the top 20/50/100 players in any given year. They have been on a clipboard since they were 12...........

So now RAE doesn't affect things.

For the record I think RAE is BS.

But I also find it ridiculous that the SY people use it as a talking point when it helps and ignore it when it doesn't.

RAE is clearly not BS but 6 months makes ZERO difference for an ELITE player identification process. Cut the dates any way you want them and a potential national team or international level player will 100% NOT get lost. Nobody ever said, "thank God we went to birth year or we would never have found Sophia Smith".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MLS will not change to SY. It’s the U.S. top pro league and to maintain some credibility, it’s going to stay BY like the rest of the world. However, they would support ECNL going SY and further separate themselves from those whose aspirations are primarily playing in college.

At the end of the day, if high level D1 is mostly older internationals from youth academies an abroad, the focus of MLSNext should be do to develop players who want to get there.

100% agree, on the boys/mens side who moves to the next level is more about ability than connections.

In 10 years the women's game will be headed this way as well.

What are people going to do when colleges start dropping soccer programs because they need to start paying players and college soccer isn't profitable.

Where will all the SY people be then when the small number of college teams only recruit from the same pools as the USYNT.

Seems like SY would still be correct for 99.99% of kids in that hypothetical, so I would guess the SY people will feel vindicated. Further, if there's a split in cutoffs, the BY leagues feeding into pros/YNT will be even smaller, as they will lose a lot of kids playing the pro pathway knowing that their real goal is just to play in college.

That's weird logic but whatever.

College recruiters will find talent wherever it's available.

Changing from BY to SY will hurt US players internationally. It won't affect college recruiting because coaches only look at players they are already in contact with. Coaches do not walk around looking at random games shopping for players.

Let's look at the RAE and the effect switching from BY to SY will have on US players ability to play internationally.

Most countries grouo players by year. This means in general because of REA Jan birthdays will have the most advantages. But if youth soccer in America switches from BY to SY suddenly the advantage goes to July birthdays. This means internationally all players will have a 6 month RAE advantage over Americans.

I know you're going to say something like that only effects 1% of players. But I also know you're going to be the drunk loud mouth moaning about know the USMNT or USWNT are no longer competitive and bla bla bla.

This is so stupid. All the national teams and ODP will stay birth year. If a kid is good enough to play "internationally" literally everyone in all 50 states will know who they are. They are the kid that always gets invited to ID camps, that makes the ODP national team, that plays 2 years up at a top 10 club, that plays on a MLS Next boys team, etc etc. Moving to SY from BY matters literally zero in identifying the top 20/50/100 players in any given year. They have been on a clipboard since they were 12...........

So now RAE doesn't affect things.

For the record I think RAE is BS.

But I also find it ridiculous that the SY people use it as a talking point when it helps and ignore it when it doesn't.

Very selective of you. No one said RAE doesn't "affect things" by the time players get to the level of national team it's not prevalent. It is VERY prevalent at the youth levels that the vast majority of kids participate in.

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Anonymous wrote:MLS will not change to SY. It’s the U.S. top pro league and to maintain some credibility, it’s going to stay BY like the rest of the world. However, they would support ECNL going SY and further separate themselves from those whose aspirations are primarily playing in college.

At the end of the day, if high level D1 is mostly older internationals from youth academies an abroad, the focus of MLSNext should be do to develop players who want to get there.

100% agree, on the boys/mens side who moves to the next level is more about ability than connections.

In 10 years the women's game will be headed this way as well.

What are people going to do when colleges start dropping soccer programs because they need to start paying players and college soccer isn't profitable.

Where will all the SY people be then when the small number of college teams only recruit from the same pools as the USYNT.

Seems like SY would still be correct for 99.99% of kids in that hypothetical, so I would guess the SY people will feel vindicated. Further, if there's a split in cutoffs, the BY leagues feeding into pros/YNT will be even smaller, as they will lose a lot of kids playing the pro pathway knowing that their real goal is just to play in college.

That's weird logic but whatever.

College recruiters will find talent wherever it's available.

Changing from BY to SY will hurt US players internationally. It won't affect college recruiting because coaches only look at players they are already in contact with. Coaches do not walk around looking at random games shopping for players.

Let's look at the RAE and the effect switching from BY to SY will have on US players ability to play internationally.

Most countries grouo players by year. This means in general because of REA Jan birthdays will have the most advantages. But if youth soccer in America switches from BY to SY suddenly the advantage goes to July birthdays. This means internationally all players will have a 6 month RAE advantage over Americans.

I know you're going to say something like that only effects 1% of players. But I also know you're going to be the drunk loud mouth moaning about know the USMNT or USWNT are no longer competitive and bla bla bla.

This is so stupid. All the national teams and ODP will stay birth year. If a kid is good enough to play "internationally" literally everyone in all 50 states will know who they are. They are the kid that always gets invited to ID camps, that makes the ODP national team, that plays 2 years up at a top 10 club, that plays on a MLS Next boys team, etc etc. Moving to SY from BY matters literally zero in identifying the top 20/50/100 players in any given year. They have been on a clipboard since they were 12...........

So now RAE doesn't affect things.

For the record I think RAE is BS.

But I also find it ridiculous that the SY people use it as a talking point when it helps and ignore it when it doesn't.

RAE is clearly not BS but 6 months makes ZERO difference for an ELITE player identification process. Cut the dates any way you want them and a potential national team or international level player will 100% NOT get lost. Nobody ever said, "thank God we went to birth year or we would never have found Sophia Smith".

Six months is HUGE when you're talking about the elite of the elite where every edge is being leveraged.

But REA affects players under 10 more than anyone else. You can literally see it if you watch u10 A teams then B teams play. The A teams are always bigger.

Once you get to u14 and the top teams and players have been selected RAE doesn't come into play as much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MLS will not change to SY. It’s the U.S. top pro league and to maintain some credibility, it’s going to stay BY like the rest of the world. However, they would support ECNL going SY and further separate themselves from those whose aspirations are primarily playing in college.

At the end of the day, if high level D1 is mostly older internationals from youth academies an abroad, the focus of MLSNext should be do to develop players who want to get there.

100% agree, on the boys/mens side who moves to the next level is more about ability than connections.

In 10 years the women's game will be headed this way as well.

What are people going to do when colleges start dropping soccer programs because they need to start paying players and college soccer isn't profitable.

Where will all the SY people be then when the small number of college teams only recruit from the same pools as the USYNT.

Seems like SY would still be correct for 99.99% of kids in that hypothetical, so I would guess the SY people will feel vindicated. Further, if there's a split in cutoffs, the BY leagues feeding into pros/YNT will be even smaller, as they will lose a lot of kids playing the pro pathway knowing that their real goal is just to play in college.

That's weird logic but whatever.

College recruiters will find talent wherever it's available.

Changing from BY to SY will hurt US players internationally. It won't affect college recruiting because coaches only look at players they are already in contact with. Coaches do not walk around looking at random games shopping for players.

Let's look at the RAE and the effect switching from BY to SY will have on US players ability to play internationally.

Most countries grouo players by year. This means in general because of REA Jan birthdays will have the most advantages. But if youth soccer in America switches from BY to SY suddenly the advantage goes to July birthdays. This means internationally all players will have a 6 month RAE advantage over Americans.

I know you're going to say something like that only effects 1% of players. But I also know you're going to be the drunk loud mouth moaning about know the USMNT or USWNT are no longer competitive and bla bla bla.

This is so stupid. All the national teams and ODP will stay birth year. If a kid is good enough to play "internationally" literally everyone in all 50 states will know who they are. They are the kid that always gets invited to ID camps, that makes the ODP national team, that plays 2 years up at a top 10 club, that plays on a MLS Next boys team, etc etc. Moving to SY from BY matters literally zero in identifying the top 20/50/100 players in any given year. They have been on a clipboard since they were 12...........

So now RAE doesn't affect things.

For the record I think RAE is BS.

But I also find it ridiculous that the SY people use it as a talking point when it helps and ignore it when it doesn't.

RAE is clearly not BS but 6 months makes ZERO difference for an ELITE player identification process. Cut the dates any way you want them and a potential national team or international level player will 100% NOT get lost. Nobody ever said, "thank God we went to birth year or we would never have found Sophia Smith".

Six months is HUGE when you're talking about the elite of the elite where every edge is being leveraged.

But REA affects players under 10 more than anyone else. You can literally see it if you watch u10 A teams then B teams play. The A teams are always bigger.

Once you get to u14 and the top teams and players have been selected RAE doesn't come into play as much.

This is all wrong. 6 months is NOTHING when you are talking about the elite of the elite because they are so much better than everyone else.

The difference between the top 15 year old in the country and the #1000 15 year old in the county is massive. 6 months isn't going to make a bit of a difference. The best 15 year old in the country has a late September birthday. RAE is not holding him or other elite players back.

On the other hand, 6 months may be HUGE for player #10,000 vs #11,000, as the skill levels of these two players are nearly identical, and the RAE advantage of early development, more early opportunities and coaching may well be the differentiating factor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MLS will not change to SY. It’s the U.S. top pro league and to maintain some credibility, it’s going to stay BY like the rest of the world. However, they would support ECNL going SY and further separate themselves from those whose aspirations are primarily playing in college.

At the end of the day, if high level D1 is mostly older internationals from youth academies an abroad, the focus of MLSNext should be do to develop players who want to get there.

100% agree, on the boys/mens side who moves to the next level is more about ability than connections.

In 10 years the women's game will be headed this way as well.

What are people going to do when colleges start dropping soccer programs because they need to start paying players and college soccer isn't profitable.

Where will all the SY people be then when the small number of college teams only recruit from the same pools as the USYNT.

Seems like SY would still be correct for 99.99% of kids in that hypothetical, so I would guess the SY people will feel vindicated. Further, if there's a split in cutoffs, the BY leagues feeding into pros/YNT will be even smaller, as they will lose a lot of kids playing the pro pathway knowing that their real goal is just to play in college.

That's weird logic but whatever.

College recruiters will find talent wherever it's available.

Changing from BY to SY will hurt US players internationally. It won't affect college recruiting because coaches only look at players they are already in contact with. Coaches do not walk around looking at random games shopping for players.

Let's look at the RAE and the effect switching from BY to SY will have on US players ability to play internationally.

Most countries grouo players by year. This means in general because of REA Jan birthdays will have the most advantages. But if youth soccer in America switches from BY to SY suddenly the advantage goes to July birthdays. This means internationally all players will have a 6 month RAE advantage over Americans.

I know you're going to say something like that only effects 1% of players. But I also know you're going to be the drunk loud mouth moaning about know the USMNT or USWNT are no longer competitive and bla bla bla.

This is so stupid. All the national teams and ODP will stay birth year. If a kid is good enough to play "internationally" literally everyone in all 50 states will know who they are. They are the kid that always gets invited to ID camps, that makes the ODP national team, that plays 2 years up at a top 10 club, that plays on a MLS Next boys team, etc etc. Moving to SY from BY matters literally zero in identifying the top 20/50/100 players in any given year. They have been on a clipboard since they were 12...........

So now RAE doesn't affect things.

For the record I think RAE is BS.

But I also find it ridiculous that the SY people use it as a talking point when it helps and ignore it when it doesn't.

RAE is clearly not BS but 6 months makes ZERO difference for an ELITE player identification process. Cut the dates any way you want them and a potential national team or international level player will 100% NOT get lost. Nobody ever said, "thank God we went to birth year or we would never have found Sophia Smith".

Six months is HUGE when you're talking about the elite of the elite where every edge is being leveraged.

But REA affects players under 10 more than anyone else. You can literally see it if you watch u10 A teams then B teams play. The A teams are always bigger.

Once you get to u14 and the top teams and players have been selected RAE doesn't come into play as much.

This is all wrong. 6 months is NOTHING when you are talking about the elite of the elite because they are so much better than everyone else.

The difference between the top 15 year old in the country and the #1000 15 year old in the county is massive. 6 months isn't going to make a bit of a difference. The best 15 year old in the country has a late September birthday. RAE is not holding him or other elite players back.

On the other hand, 6 months may be HUGE for player #10,000 vs #11,000, as the skill levels of these two players are nearly identical, and the RAE advantage of early development, more early opportunities and coaching may well be the differentiating factor.

It's HUGE when the top elite are playing against the top elite where everything matters.

[Anonymous]

I find it interesting that not one person has heard 100% this is happening or not.

I would imagine it will pass (where there’s smoke…) but the fact that we are waiting on this vote and it’s been tight lipped is super interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that not one person has heard 100% this is happening or not.

I would imagine it will pass (where there’s smoke…) but the fact that we are waiting on this vote and it’s been tight lipped is super interesting.

It's because ECNL and US Soccer don't like each other. They have very different philosophies on the end goal of playing soccer.

Also there's a very loud and vocal Girls ECNL crowd online that doesn't understand anything beyond girls ECNL.

The net is that ECNL needs to get other leagues to align on the decision to pressure US Soccer. Which is why the ECNL pom pom crew is commenting like crqzy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that not one person has heard 100% this is happening or not.

I would imagine it will pass (where there’s smoke…) but the fact that we are waiting on this vote and it’s been tight lipped is super interesting.

I want to say last time they made the switch it was out of left field. Some rumors but nothing like this. I believe US soccer just made the decision without involving anyone from the outside.

You usually don’t make an announcement until a decision is final. It sounds like the decision is already made and that’s why DPL made a statement the vote will just be a formality.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that not one person has heard 100% this is happening or not.

I would imagine it will pass (where there’s smoke…) but the fact that we are waiting on this vote and it’s been tight lipped is super interesting.

It's because ECNL and US Soccer don't like each other. They have very different philosophies on the end goal of playing soccer.

Also there's a very loud and vocal Girls ECNL crowd online that doesn't understand anything beyond girls ECNL.

The net is that ECNL needs to get other leagues to align on the decision to pressure US Soccer. Which is why the ECNL pom pom crew is commenting like crqzy.

I don’t think anyone in soccer likes each other. But ECNL is sanctioned by us club so they are probably aligned on this in some capacity? If US club didn’t want to change I don’t think they would get to this point. Would just tell ECNL to kick rocks and do their own thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that not one person has heard 100% this is happening or not.

I would imagine it will pass (where there’s smoke…) but the fact that we are waiting on this vote and it’s been tight lipped is super interesting.

It's because ECNL and US Soccer don't like each other. They have very different philosophies on the end goal of playing soccer.

Also there's a very loud and vocal Girls ECNL crowd online that doesn't understand anything beyond girls ECNL.

The net is that ECNL needs to get other leagues to align on the decision to pressure US Soccer. Which is why the ECNL pom pom crew is commenting like crqzy.

Without ECNL, on the girls side, US Soccer would be in even worse shape than they already are. US Soccer could learn a thing or two about developing soccer players from ECNL as is evidenced by the number of USWNT and USYNT players that grew up in ECNL vs GA or National Conference. Look at the mens side. They had DA and now MLS Next and you can still argue that the mens team underperforms year in and year out. And many of the elite men on the USMNT developed overseas and not at either DA or MLS Next.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that not one person has heard 100% this is happening or not.

I would imagine it will pass (where there’s smoke…) but the fact that we are waiting on this vote and it’s been tight lipped is super interesting.

It's because ECNL and US Soccer don't like each other. They have very different philosophies on the end goal of playing soccer.

Also there's a very loud and vocal Girls ECNL crowd online that doesn't understand anything beyond girls ECNL.

The net is that ECNL needs to get other leagues to align on the decision to pressure US Soccer. Which is why the ECNL pom pom crew is commenting like crqzy.

I'm pretty sure even AYSO parents understand that there's something beyond ECNL. They just don't think that the whole system should be set up to *maybe* benefit those select few at a *clear* cost to the massive number of kids who won't get to that level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that not one person has heard 100% this is happening or not.

I would imagine it will pass (where there’s smoke…) but the fact that we are waiting on this vote and it’s been tight lipped is super interesting.

It's because ECNL and US Soccer don't like each other. They have very different philosophies on the end goal of playing soccer.

Also there's a very loud and vocal Girls ECNL crowd online that doesn't understand anything beyond girls ECNL.

The net is that ECNL needs to get other leagues to align on the decision to pressure US Soccer. Which is why the ECNL pom pom crew is commenting like crqzy.

Without ECNL, on the girls side, US Soccer would be in even worse shape than they already are. US Soccer could learn a thing or two about developing soccer players from ECNL as is evidenced by the number of USWNT and USYNT players that grew up in ECNL vs GA or National Conference. Look at the mens side. They had DA and now MLS Next and you can still argue that the mens team underperforms year in and year out. And many of the elite men on the USMNT developed overseas and not at either DA or MLS Next.

US Soccer management can really be summed up in two words: Gregg Berhalter

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that not one person has heard 100% this is happening or not.

I would imagine it will pass (where there’s smoke…) but the fact that we are waiting on this vote and it’s been tight lipped is super interesting.

It's because ECNL and US Soccer don't like each other. They have very different philosophies on the end goal of playing soccer.

Also there's a very loud and vocal Girls ECNL crowd online that doesn't understand anything beyond girls ECNL.

The net is that ECNL needs to get other leagues to align on the decision to pressure US Soccer. Which is why the ECNL pom pom crew is commenting like crqzy.

Without ECNL, on the girls side, US Soccer would be in even worse shape than they already are. US Soccer could learn a thing or two about developing soccer players from ECNL as is evidenced by the number of USWNT and USYNT players that grew up in ECNL vs GA or National Conference. Look at the mens side. They had DA and now MLS Next and you can still argue that the mens team underperforms year in and year out. And many of the elite men on the USMNT developed overseas and not at either DA or MLS Next.

US Soccer management can really be summed up in two words: Gregg Berhalter

I am going respectfully disagree and attempt to one up you. Two words: Ken Griffin. Turning to a rich Uncle to pay the bills for the USSF is a sad state of affairs.