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Anonymous
Of course its important but there is rarely such a thing as free and appropriate services. I hope you get far more than we do but what we got wasn't worth much of anything and the only reason our child is successful now is because of all the private services we did. |
Anonymous
My child was in 4-5 privately speech therapy for years. And, we also did ABA and weekly OT. ABA is in the home. Stop acting like others don't know. You could do it nights and weekends. You only want to do what is easy. You clearly have that luxury. We didn't if we wanted our child to be successful in life. |
Anonymous
Do you know how hard it is to get nights? We were on waiting lists for 3 months just to be able to start, and then only mid-day appointments. In-home ABA strongly implies you’re a SAHM. And 4-5 speech sessions a week is well beyond what insurance will cover. And given that you’re speaking in past tense, I’m guessing it’s safe to assume you weren’t doing zoom speech therapy with a preschooler with ASD. Its not so much that you don’t know as much as you just seem out of touch. |
Anonymous
We made it work. It took us 4 years to get evening appointment. We took what we could get to get established to get the better appointment times. We private paid and some insurance. You are out of touch and making excuses for your lack of effort. In person therapy has been open for a year. I did what it took. You expect others to cater to you and in the meanwhile your child goes without losing valuable time. You waiting for mcps is hurting your child as they will never do everything. |
Anonymous
I expect schools to provide legally-mandated services. Only on DCUM is that a hot take… |
Anonymous
We are telling you the reality of services and if you wait, refuse to get private services, even just the minimum, you are hurting your child and impacting their future. Very few kids get 100% of their needs met by MCPS. If you have insurance, you use your insurance and get your kids help. If you don't have insurance, there are low cost options to get your child help, some sliding fee (or free) if you put minimum effort into it. Stop being lazy. |
Anonymous
+1. I feel sorry for that PP's child, because their parents are clearly not invested in them enough to make an effort. Now they've been 1.5 years without services? Now they will need even more to make up for that but PP has already shown she is not willing. |
Anonymous
In person private services were only canceled a few months and its been a year. They don't want to flex their work schedule, hire someone to transport or find someone with weekend or evening hours. Hopefully their issues will clear up with age/time as they are missing the key window for services to help the most. There are options. Many of us on the SN board can tell you low cost options if you don't have health insurance or public health insurance to cover it. Its not easy. Many of us have done it for years. I would rather regret services that I did as my child is ok vs. not doing them and watching my child struggle and regret not doing them. It was a huge sacrifice in many ways but zero regrets. Very few people get quality services from MCPS or any school district to the level many of these kids need. Once you get to ES level, there is no 1-1 speech therapy and you get put in a group with 4-6 kids with unrelated needs for 30 minutes 1-2 times a week. So, your kid gets what? Same with reading. It takes a a few years to get kids identified and by then they provide minimal help and its too little to late. |
Anonymous
Right. I mean, why even have public schools in Montgomery County? Clearly it is far more reasonable to expect parents to have money to pay for private services, time to shuttle their kids between various appointments in the middle of the day, and the skills to act as special education instructors than it is to expect that public school system to provide the services and supports listed in an IEP. I take that back. Clearly we need public schools. But not for education- for propping up property values in the W clusters. |
Anonymous
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As we pursued an IEP, we were very bluntly told by MCPS staff, off the record, that if we wanted to move along the process to get services and accommodations that we needed to pay for it out of pocket. Otherwise, we would join the line to get resources. The need outstrips the yearly budget.
And so we paid, presented the results to MCPS and they accepted them. It isn't right or fair, especially for those kids whose families do not have good jobs but I can't save everyone. YMMV |
Anonymous
Don't blame the W clusters it's their taxes that fund the system and montgomery county is one of the best funded school districts in the country. Check out a post called "equity in mcps" If you want to blame someone blame wasting 11M on lawsuits because not providing 504 services like they should or discriminating against asians or letting rods get stuck up someones behind. |
Anonymous
I suggest you read this. It explains a lot about some posts about MCPS. https://slate.com/technology/2021/09/mens-rights-asians-aznidentity-stop-asian-hate-reddit.html |
Anonymous
Bottomline is that parents are ultimately responsible for their kids. It has nothing to do with W clusters. It has to do with the individual school, principal and staff. Our school was great for some SN and terrible for others. We were in that other category. In all reality, kids need both services in the public schools and private. There is usually one SLP in Elementary School and they are stretched thin so they cannot provide sufficient services for kids like mine who really need daily 1-1 support in terms of ST and OT. And, with classes of 20-35 students its near impossible for a teacher to stop and help one child regularly or do a lot of 1-1. If you want to do nothing and complain, good for you, I guess but most parents whose kids need help, do it both in school and privately. Yes, I pulled my kid out of school to get services as it took 3 years of ES to finally be able to get an after school spot as they are hard to get because some kids like mine need services for years and only so many hours the provider has especially if kids go 2-3 times a week. Medicaid pays for ST, OT and PT as well as ABA for low income families. There are universities and other private groups who do sliding fee services. There are options so if you cannot afford services, you can get them. |
Anonymous
We went in with a private evaluation so we had no issue getting services and supports on paper, but when it came to actual support in the classroom, there was none. We couldn't even get them to send home the unfinished school work so we could help complete it at home. It was pathetic. The IEP wasn't worth the paper it was written on. |
Anonymous
I'm sorry to hear this. We had kind of a mixed bag but generally ok. Most teachers worked with us on the unfinished and/or not turned in school work. Behavior management was kind of a mixed bag. Neither worked on handwriting or writing. |