American Murder discussion
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Anonymous
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I saw the Netflix documentary recently. I was curious how they made the film footage look like the shots were originally made for a Hollywood production.
What struck me as extraordinary but helpful to the case was: 1. the friend alerting the police so early the morning of Shannan's disappearance. 2. The nextdoor neighbor guy telling the police how strange the husband Chris was acting, with his rambling/talking so much and loading his truck in the driveway 3. The police officers actually took the disappearance seriously. They treated everyone involved in the case with respect from the very beginning. They didn't laugh the friend off and tell her Shannan just ran off with another man. 4. The detective who gave the lie detector test allowed Chris to confess to his own father, even though he lied and accused Shannan of killing the kids first, so he had to kill her. 5. Chris is just like any ordinary man. He wasn't violent or abusive. He kissed Shannan's @$$. There was no indication from his history with Shannan and his observed behavior that he was capable of violence. 6. Shannan never felt unsafe around Chris but she suspected right away that he was cheating and that he didn't love her. The no sex for 5 weeks and then how he rejected her for sex when he flew to North Carolina to meet Shannan and the kids was a big red flag for her. Chris not answering her phone while she was there was a red flag for her. 7. Instead of Shannan confronting her husband, she texted her friends. She texted her friend that she took an evening shower and Chris was supposed to know that meant she wanted sex. But he rejected her. I don't know how I would have responded to the husband's infidelity but Shannan was intuitive to know he was cheating. |
Anonymous
It's what a psychopath or sociopath (I don't claim to know which Chris would be diagnosed as) does. They lie in part because they enjoy the deception. If they can fool people, even for a short amount of time they perceive that as power and strength. I known one (diagnosed) sociopath and being around them was exhausting for me but I could see that they were bored when there was no drama. Most of us feel ridiculous and embarrassed when we are lying and we are caught or even suspect others know we are lying. For a sociopath the wheels just keep spinning--what can I say to get out of this, how can I spin this, what will get to them, what will achieve my goal. Truth does not hold importance to them. It's chilling. |
Anonymous
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When Shannan wore the "Oops" tshirt, Chris didn't look happy at first. He immediately changed his tune. Shannan even video recorded his reaction on camera.
Shannan is heard on phone or texting telling Chris she is going to video record when the girls run up to meet him at the airport. I guess it's not unusual for social media personalities/lifestyle bloggers to record so much of their personal lives. |
Anonymous
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Chris was a clean-cut, handsome & very likeable guy.
He seems to be reasonably intelligent, friendly and just a loving Dad to his two daughters. He had no history of aggression or violent behavior so on paper he seemed like the ideal family man. I can totally understand how people who knew him prior to the murders collectively agreed he was a good guy. Even when the CBI came to his prison in WI in February ‘19 - his demeanor was of a regular guy. In a recent recorded phone call w/his parents from prison, his Mother tells him....”It’s okay son... we all KNOW how she (Sha’nann) was,” Chris defended his wife by telling them that she was a great person + wanted her to be remembered as so..... Don’t get me wrong, I hope he rots in prison for the rest of his pathetic life. But I just wonder..... How could he have fooled so many people?? |
Anonymous
Sounds like he snapped. Not that he was trying to hide in plain sight like Dexter his whole life. |
Anonymous
| Chris was a weak man easily manipulated by women. The girlfriend had a lot more to do with him snapping. I wonder if Shannan hadn't gone away for the 5 weeks would he have done it. He would have had less time with the girlfriend and living life without being a dad/husband full time. |
Anonymous
If it were a crime of passion, I would believe he snapped. But the way everything was carried out... he'd been thinking about this for quite some time. He had a plan. He just wasn't bright enough to have a plan that didn't result in him getting caught. |
Anonymous
It was chilling how quickly he fixed his face. Maybe he was used to doing that, given how much of their lives were online, but that really stuck out to me. At the same time, he absolutely couldn't fake his "performance" caught on the police bodycam, when he awkwardly "found" Shanann's rings and tried to suggest it meant she had run off. Same for the media interview where he attempted to act distraught. There's also something off about the girlfriend. Lady MacBeth vibes there. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and she seemed to know exactly how to play him. |
Anonymous
so.. he is not that great looking, average at best. He also comes off as dumb as a post. Likable, perhaps. I guess Ted Bundy fooled a lot of people too so not too crazy.. |
Anonymous
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^^Objectively Chris is a little above average-looking guy.
Especially after he lost the 65 pounds and tightened up. It’s really tough for anyone to call him attractive considering the crime he committed. I recently saw Scott Peterson on the news. Again objectively he also is above average in the looks dept., but when so many people hate a specific person -> they tend to not want to admit the person is good looking. Like Lyle and Erik Menendez. And O.J. |
Anonymous
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Handsome Murderers:
• Ted Bundy (or whoever that clean cut White guy was who killed those women in Central Park decades ago) • Suge Knight • Christopher Watts • O.J. • Scott Peterson • Those preppy Menendez bros. Ugly Murderers: • The Night Stalker (Ramos) • B2K killer • Craig Peyer |
Anonymous
| The only thing that makes sense is he is still protecting Nichole Kessinger somehow. He was on the phone with her for almost 2 hours the night of the murders. |
Anonymous
Regardless of his evilness and/or psychopathy, it was clear he was 100% over the endless social-media nonsense. I would be, too. I wonder if he ever tried to talk to her about it. It's a relatively simple thing to talk about, even if he wasn't the type to talk about relationship issues. Clearly much of it was for her MLM, but God it appeared exhausting. |
Anonymous
some (hopefully) many of us have different standards for attractiveness. He THOUGHT he was hot because he lost weight but please really look at his face. Murderer or not, I wouldn't give him a second glance. He's not my type and not attractive. I'd give him a solid 5. This is being objective. (thank you very much  ) Scott Peterson, also not attractive AT ALL. Friends, you can do better if you are tricking yourself into believing these bland men are above average.
Granted if someone is a decent person they will of course be more attractive but being objective, nope, not hot. |
Anonymous
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He wants people to think it was a sudden, unplanned crime. But obviously that is not true, as evidenced by his volunteering to go to that job site in the middle of nowhere, early on Monday. Why does he want people to think it was unplanned?
Perhaps so that his co conspirator won't get caught? |