Fierce competition for Fall 2021 admissions, if lots of current seniors defer?

[Anonymous]

For what it is worth, my senior will matriculate and launch into college in the midst of this crisis. But it is a difficult and problematic decision not to be taken lightly. He is a resilient and independent student and he thinks he is capable of making more progress by going forward then anything else he could come up with for the year. But this is very worrisome and far from ideal. Not sure the same choice would make sense for my other. This is difficult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is not the responsibility not within the capacity of the HS class of 2020 to solve the issues of the global pandemic's effect on college education. Some may be able to make lemons out of lemonade and thrive in a completely upside down experience of freshman year at college and some be undone by it. And some anonymous chat poster has no qualifications to determine which is which regardless if the student is Princeton bound or headed elsewhere

All manner of business, school, plans, etc. Are being affected and put on hold and college is no different. It affects every year, not just rising college freshman. This is a mess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who is getting grade inflation? I have a sophomore in FCPS. Some of her teachers say they grade on a trend, others say they do standards based grading, and only two do a straight average. Her grades are lower than they would have been if she had actually had a fourth quarter. The fourth quarter is always the highest.

The B+ and B students are getting the grade inflation. At FCPS, you get one letter bump in the 4th quarter. It is not fair to the A students.

Our fcps is only giving one bump. A B would go to a B +, a B + would go to an A - and so on

No one will get a worse grade per FCPS policy. It can only go up. Obviously the policy is not fair to the top students.

How in the world is not that fair to "top" students?

You got your bump. Be happy. Unless they add A+ for the top students to get the same bump, it's clearly not fair to those kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is not the responsibility not within the capacity of the HS class of 2020 to solve the issues of the global pandemic's effect on college education. Some may be able to make lemons out of lemonade and thrive in a completely upside down experience of freshman year at college and some be undone by it. And some anonymous chat poster has no qualifications to determine which is which regardless if the student is Princeton bound or headed elsewhere

All manner of business, school, plans, etc. Are being affected and put on hold and college is no different. It affects every year, not just rising college freshman. This is a mess.

Parents that think that class of 2020 is going to be treated special are in for a shocker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2020/05/final-cpuc-administrators-discuss-gap-years

Due to housing and enrollment constraints, students who take gap years this fall may not be guaranteed immediate return to the University, according to a response from Dean Jill Dolan at the Council of the Princeton University Community (CPUC) meeting on Monday.

“We are not changing the policy for returning students or for newly admitted students,” Dolan said during the Q&A portion of the meeting. “If students do take a leave [of absence] or defer, we cannot guarantee that they’ll all be able to return in one year.”

Her response comes after some students, both at Princeton and across the nation, have expressed that they would prefer to take a gap year over participating in an online fall semester. If too many students choose to take leaves of absence for the 2020–21 school year, over-enrollment could occur the following year, putting a strain on housing and dining services.

Dolan went on to explain that returning students must contact their residential college deans about potential gap years, and newly admitted students must contact the admission office.

LOL

But I saw it here that Princeton wanted to screw 2021 students. The OP is built on a giant wishful thinking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2020/05/final-cpuc-administrators-discuss-gap-years

Due to housing and enrollment constraints, students who take gap years this fall may not be guaranteed immediate return to the University, according to a response from Dean Jill Dolan at the Council of the Princeton University Community (CPUC) meeting on Monday.

“We are not changing the policy for returning students or for newly admitted students,” Dolan said during the Q&A portion of the meeting. “If students do take a leave [of absence] or defer, we cannot guarantee that they’ll all be able to return in one year.”

Her response comes after some students, both at Princeton and across the nation, have expressed that they would prefer to take a gap year over participating in an online fall semester. If too many students choose to take leaves of absence for the 2020–21 school year, over-enrollment could occur the following year, putting a strain on housing and dining services.

Dolan went on to explain that returning students must contact their residential college deans about potential gap years, and newly admitted students must contact the admission office.

LOL

But I saw it here that Princeton wanted to screw 2021 students. The OP is built on a giant wishful thinking.

Class of 2020 parents think that there are unlimited open spots for the following year. Let them think that. They obviously don't want to hear the facts. Wonder if colleges are banking on that kind of naivete?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2020/05/final-cpuc-administrators-discuss-gap-years

Due to housing and enrollment constraints, students who take gap years this fall may not be guaranteed immediate return to the University, according to a response from Dean Jill Dolan at the Council of the Princeton University Community (CPUC) meeting on Monday.

“We are not changing the policy for returning students or for newly admitted students,” Dolan said during the Q&A portion of the meeting. “If students do take a leave [of absence] or defer, we cannot guarantee that they’ll all be able to return in one year.”

Her response comes after some students, both at Princeton and across the nation, have expressed that they would prefer to take a gap year over participating in an online fall semester. If too many students choose to take leaves of absence for the 2020–21 school year, over-enrollment could occur the following year, putting a strain on housing and dining services.

Dolan went on to explain that returning students must contact their residential college deans about potential gap years, and newly admitted students must contact the admission office.

LOL

But I saw it here that Princeton wanted to screw 2021 students. The OP is built on a giant wishful thinking.

OP is absolutely wishful thinking. Where did it say that any school wants to screw the class of 2021? The only one that wants to do that is OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is not the responsibility not within the capacity of the HS class of 2020 to solve the issues of the global pandemic's effect on college education. Some may be able to make lemons out of lemonade and thrive in a completely upside down experience of freshman year at college and some be undone by it. And some anonymous chat poster has no qualifications to determine which is which regardless if the student is Princeton bound or headed elsewhere

So your little one is deferring then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, my senior will matriculate and launch into college in the midst of this crisis. But it is a difficult and problematic decision not to be taken lightly. He is a resilient and independent student and he thinks he is capable of making more progress by going forward then anything else he could come up with for the year. But this is very worrisome and far from ideal. Not sure the same choice would make sense for my other. This is difficult.

He'll be fine. At least you'll know to have contingency plans in place in case campuses close down again, which I doubt will happen but there is always the possibility.

This year has been so chaotic because we were all blindsided by this and had never seen anything like it. Now we know what happens and people know what to do if something like this ever happens again.

Overall, I think that the colleges and the students have done a great job handling such an unprecedented situation.

[Anonymous]

It's a mess. I do feel bad for my high school senior. They've missed out on some big milestones and it looks like their freshman year of college is going to be equally a mess.

Colleges do need to say what the plan is going to be: people pay a lot of money for college and honestly it's disturbing to think they may go for 2 months and be told to pack up and move back home. And then have to finish the year homeschooling.

And what about majors where the first year involves a lot of hands on work? You can't do that from the armchair at your house.

I get deferrals aren't the answer, anyone can see that's only going to cause problems with subsequent years, but there's a ton of uncertainties for the class of 2020.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is not the responsibility not within the capacity of the HS class of 2020 to solve the issues of the global pandemic's effect on college education. Some may be able to make lemons out of lemonade and thrive in a completely upside down experience of freshman year at college and some be undone by it. And some anonymous chat poster has no qualifications to determine which is which regardless if the student is Princeton bound or headed elsewhere

So your little one is deferring then?

No. But if a deferment was a better choice him or any other student they should defer. Why would it make sense to matriculate over defer for a student that would be better served by deferral? I don't understand the logic of that decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's a mess. I do feel bad for my high school senior. They've missed out on some big milestones and it looks like their freshman year of college is going to be equally a mess.

Colleges do need to say what the plan is going to be: people pay a lot of money for college and honestly it's disturbing to think they may go for 2 months and be told to pack up and move back home. And then have to finish the year homeschooling.

And what about majors where the first year involves a lot of hands on work? You can't do that from the armchair at your house.

I get deferrals aren't the answer, anyone can see that's only going to cause problems with subsequent years, but there's a ton of uncertainties for the class of 2020.

Problems for subsequent years? One kid has a crappy educational experience so another has a good one? What is the criteria for who gets the crappy year and who gets the good one? How should that be decided and by whom?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a mess. I do feel bad for my high school senior. They've missed out on some big milestones and it looks like their freshman year of college is going to be equally a mess.

Colleges do need to say what the plan is going to be: people pay a lot of money for college and honestly it's disturbing to think they may go for 2 months and be told to pack up and move back home. And then have to finish the year homeschooling.

And what about majors where the first year involves a lot of hands on work? You can't do that from the armchair at your house.

I get deferrals aren't the answer, anyone can see that's only going to cause problems with subsequent years, but there's a ton of uncertainties for the class of 2020.

Problems for subsequent years? One kid has a crappy educational experience so another has a good one? What is the criteria for who gets the crappy year and who gets the good one? How should that be decided and by whom?

No on gets a crappy year - that is the schools' sentiment. There are X number of deferrals period.

BTW, the school is not willing to sacrifice $$$$$$ because the Class of 2020's mommy and daddy are mad they didn't get their Instagram moment (ie: prom and graduation). So, limited number of deferrals, it is.

If you can't accept that, then you do your child no good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is not the responsibility not within the capacity of the HS class of 2020 to solve the issues of the global pandemic's effect on college education. Some may be able to make lemons out of lemonade and thrive in a completely upside down experience of freshman year at college and some be undone by it. And some anonymous chat poster has no qualifications to determine which is which regardless if the student is Princeton bound or headed elsewhere

So your little one is deferring then?

No. But if a deferment was a better choice him or any other student they should defer. Why would it make sense to matriculate over defer for a student that would be better served by deferral? I don't understand the logic of that decision.

It would only make sense is deferral was a better option. But how is deferral a better option for anybody? It's not. Unless you are a hopeless ninny who would rather stay home and do literally nothing, because things didn't pan out the way you planned. Why would do nothing make sense at all?

[Anonymous]

No one is making important college desicions based on some snarky dcum post. DCs college has indicated that requests for deferrals will be honored. My DC will matriculate as planned but I could see that not being a good choice for some students...for more then normal based in these circumstances.