Fierce competition for Fall 2021 admissions, if lots of current seniors defer?

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I think most seniors that defer will be taking classes close to home so they will start as Sophomores standing wise. What else would they be doing...job - no travel no.

[Anonymous]

I don't think many will defer. Most colleges will be open for business in the fall.

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Anonymous wrote:That's why student who want to defer should not be allowed to do so. They should have to reapply next year.

Yes because they haven't been screwed over enough this year.

So because one kid doesn’t want to start school online in the fall they get to screw another kid out of a spot in a college altogether? How is that fair? Play the hand your dealt.

They are playing the hand they are dealt. Their play is to defer. You act like that is what the seniors want. They want to go to school in Fall 2020. Deferring is a sacrifice.

Why can't your junior take a bit of the hit? They will get to be a second semester senior, prom, etc. Come on, teach your kid to be a good team member - they need to carry their share of the burden. They are basically getting to skate by on half of what is supposed to be the hardest academic year (open book APs, pass/fail classes).

I think it's pretty selfish to think that seniors are the only students suffering in this. My junior is at a private school where they are not doing pass/fail, she missed her SAT that she had been training for and then the next two got cancelled as well, her spring varsity season was cancelled and this is one that colleges look at for recruiting, her prospect days were cancelled and she needs to start the pre read process soon with no scores and limited information about the schools. She will likely be fine because she's a recruited athlete and far ahead of her peers in terms of narrowing her college choices but I do feel for other juniors who have been dealing with cancelations as well (junior prom, junior ring ceremony, junior summer abroad trips all cancelled).

Class of 2021 is not in a good position so please don't say they're not "carrying their share of the burden".

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I think it's pretty selfish to think that seniors are the only students suffering in this. My junior is at a private school where they are not doing pass/fail, she missed her SAT that she had been training for and then the next two got cancelled as well, her spring varsity season was cancelled and this is one that colleges look at for recruiting, her prospect days were cancelled and she needs to start the pre read process soon with no scores and limited information about the schools. She will likely be fine because she's a recruited athlete and far ahead of her peers in terms of narrowing her college choices but I do feel for other juniors who have been dealing with cancelations as well (junior prom, junior ring ceremony, junior summer abroad trips all cancelled).

Class of 2021 is not in a good position so please don't say they're not "carrying their share of the burden".

Do you realize how tone deaf and privileged this sounds?

[Anonymous]

What is a ring ceremony? Was this satire?

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I think it's pretty selfish to think that seniors are the only students suffering in this. My junior is at a private school where they are not doing pass/fail, she missed her SAT that she had been training for and then the next two got cancelled as well, her spring varsity season was cancelled and this is one that colleges look at for recruiting, her prospect days were cancelled and she needs to start the pre read process soon with no scores and limited information about the schools. She will likely be fine because she's a recruited athlete and far ahead of her peers in terms of narrowing her college choices but I do feel for other juniors who have been dealing with cancelations as well (junior prom, junior ring ceremony, junior summer abroad trips all cancelled).

Class of 2021 is not in a good position so please don't say they're not "carrying their share of the burden".

Do you realize how tone deaf and privileged this sounds?

It was in response to the tone deaf statement by a 2020 parent who assumed, incorrectly, that their children are the only ones dealing with the loss of so much. This thread is about the class of 2021 and how much harder it's going to be to secure a college placement. The parent in the earlier post suggested that students in the current junior class are all so lucky to have classes pass/fail (untrue) and they should just accept everything they're dealing with and also accept that their college dreams will be shut down by class of 2020 pushing back their college entrance.

Do you realize how tone deaf you're being to other students who are also in a difficult position? I'm guessing not because you can't see beyond your child. I was saying that my daughter will be fine because sh'e a recruited athlete so I'm not worried. I just feel for others who will be shut out.

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I think it's pretty selfish to think that seniors are the only students suffering in this. My junior is at a private school where they are not doing pass/fail, she missed her SAT that she had been training for and then the next two got cancelled as well, her spring varsity season was cancelled and this is one that colleges look at for recruiting, her prospect days were cancelled and she needs to start the pre read process soon with no scores and limited information about the schools. She will likely be fine because she's a recruited athlete and far ahead of her peers in terms of narrowing her college choices but I do feel for other juniors who have been dealing with cancelations as well (junior prom, junior ring ceremony, junior summer abroad trips all cancelled).

Class of 2021 is not in a good position so please don't say they're not "carrying their share of the burden".

Do you realize how tone deaf and privileged this sounds?

People please!! I have a senior who is missing out on the most fun months of school life: senior prank day, final theater production, senior ditch day, prom, graduation. Also at a small private. You know what? She is taking it like a champ, with maturity and grace. More mature than this poster who is obviously a parent!!

Nobody is WINNING on the "who has it worse" in this crisis. Juniors and seniors are both facing big challenges this year and next - it's not a competition. I am so, so proud of my senior who has risen to the occasion and has not complained much at all about losing out. Our school is hoping for a weekend of celebrations in August if it's safe, and DC is holding out hope that we can do that. Otherwise, she is looking forward to college in the fall - however that takes place. She is NOT deferring. DC hasn't made a final school decision yet - so this week is a bit stressful because she has three amazing choices that are all highly ranked. That's a great, privileged problem to have and we know it.

Please put things in perspective and help your junior handle this with maturity. They will all be fine - a little adversity is good for our snowflakes as they embark on adulthood.

[Anonymous]

Colleges won't allow so many deferrals so as to make a difference to the class of 2021. I have two 2020s and a 2022. My thought is if colleges allow the number of deferrals this thread contemplates, they would not be open in 2021.

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I think it's pretty selfish to think that seniors are the only students suffering in this. My junior is at a private school where they are not doing pass/fail, she missed her SAT that she had been training for and then the next two got cancelled as well, her spring varsity season was cancelled and this is one that colleges look at for recruiting, her prospect days were cancelled and she needs to start the pre read process soon with no scores and limited information about the schools. She will likely be fine because she's a recruited athlete and far ahead of her peers in terms of narrowing her college choices but I do feel for other juniors who have been dealing with cancelations as well (junior prom, junior ring ceremony, junior summer abroad trips all cancelled).

Class of 2021 is not in a good position so please don't say they're not "carrying their share of the burden".

Do you realize how tone deaf and privileged this sounds?

People please!! I have a senior who is missing out on the most fun months of school life: senior prank day, final theater production, senior ditch day, prom, graduation. Also at a small private. You know what? She is taking it like a champ, with maturity and grace. More mature than this poster who is obviously a parent!!

Nobody is WINNING on the "who has it worse" in this crisis. Juniors and seniors are both facing big challenges this year and next - it's not a competition. I am so, so proud of my senior who has risen to the occasion and has not complained much at all about losing out. Our school is hoping for a weekend of celebrations in August if it's safe, and DC is holding out hope that we can do that. Otherwise, she is looking forward to college in the fall - however that takes place. She is NOT deferring. DC hasn't made a final school decision yet - so this week is a bit stressful because she has three amazing choices that are all highly ranked. That's a great, privileged problem to have and we know it.

Please put things in perspective and help your junior handle this with maturity. They will all be fine - a little adversity is good for our snowflakes as they embark on adulthood.

It's like none of you read the post this was referring to: Why can't your junior take a bit of the hit? They will get to be a second semester senior, prom, etc. Come on, teach your kid to be a good team member - they need to carry their share of the burden. They are basically getting to skate by on half of what is supposed to be the hardest academic year (open book APs, pass/fail classes).

This isn't about someone complaining, it's about reacting to a parent earlier in the thread being rude and saying things like "carry their fair share" as though they aren't. My junior certainly is taking it all in stride and doing great and not complaining at all. But come on, don't go saying that people aren't taking their fair share. That's rude.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most seniors that defer will be taking classes close to home so they will start as Sophomores standing wise. What else would they be doing...job - no travel no.

Admissions officers have said recently this is not allowed. Deferrals cannot be used to take classes for credit.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most seniors that defer will be taking classes close to home so they will start as Sophomores standing wise. What else would they be doing...job - no travel no.

Thats’s called transferring, not deferring. Most colleges don’t allow students who defer to take courses for credit elsewhere

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's why student who want to defer should not be allowed to do so. They should have to reapply next year.

Yes because they haven't been screwed over enough this year.

So because one kid doesn’t want to start school online in the fall they get to screw another kid out of a spot in a college altogether? How is that fair? Play the hand your dealt.

They are playing the hand they are dealt. Their play is to defer. You act like that is what the seniors want. They want to go to school in Fall 2020. Deferring is a sacrifice.

Why can't your junior take a bit of the hit? They will get to be a second semester senior, prom, etc. Come on, teach your kid to be a good team member - they need to carry their share of the burden. They are basically getting to skate by on half of what is supposed to be the hardest academic year (open book APs, pass/fail classes).

I don’t have a junior. I have a sophomore, and yes, the ramifications of a bunch of current seniors deferring will last that long. They could trickle down for up to 5 years.

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Anonymous wrote:That's why student who want to defer should not be allowed to do so. They should have to reapply next year.

Yes because they haven't been screwed over enough this year.

Other than missing graduation (which is boring AF anyway), how have they been more "screwed over" than the class of 2021? I would argue the juniors have it even worse. Many fewer times for testing. Missing out on the most important semester for grades into their transript--and now the 2020 class taking away possibly up to 20% of possible spots for top colleges next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

I think it's pretty selfish to think that seniors are the only students suffering in this. My junior is at a private school where they are not doing pass/fail, she missed her SAT that she had been training for and then the next two got cancelled as well, her spring varsity season was cancelled and this is one that colleges look at for recruiting, her prospect days were cancelled and she needs to start the pre read process soon with no scores and limited information about the schools. She will likely be fine because she's a recruited athlete and far ahead of her peers in terms of narrowing her college choices but I do feel for other juniors who have been dealing with cancelations as well (junior prom, junior ring ceremony, junior summer abroad trips all cancelled).

Class of 2021 is not in a good position so please don't say they're not "carrying their share of the burden".

Do you realize how tone deaf and privileged this sounds?

People please!! I have a senior who is missing out on the most fun months of school life: senior prank day, final theater production, senior ditch day, prom, graduation. Also at a small private. You know what? She is taking it like a champ, with maturity and grace. More mature than this poster who is obviously a parent!!

Nobody is WINNING on the "who has it worse" in this crisis. Juniors and seniors are both facing big challenges this year and next - it's not a competition. I am so, so proud of my senior who has risen to the occasion and has not complained much at all about losing out. Our school is hoping for a weekend of celebrations in August if it's safe, and DC is holding out hope that we can do that. Otherwise, she is looking forward to college in the fall - however that takes place. She is NOT deferring. DC hasn't made a final school decision yet - so this week is a bit stressful because she has three amazing choices that are all highly ranked. That's a great, privileged problem to have and we know it.

Please put things in perspective and help your junior handle this with maturity. They will all be fine - a little adversity is good for our snowflakes as they embark on adulthood.

It's like none of you read the post this was referring to: Why can't your junior take a bit of the hit? They will get to be a second semester senior, prom, etc. Come on, teach your kid to be a good team member - they need to carry their share of the burden. They are basically getting to skate by on half of what is supposed to be the hardest academic year (open book APs, pass/fail classes).

This isn't about someone complaining, it's about reacting to a parent earlier in the thread being rude and saying things like "carry their fair share" as though they aren't. My junior certainly is taking it all in stride and doing great and not complaining at all. But come on, don't go saying that people aren't taking their fair share. That's rude.

Who says there will be a second semester next year? They keep talking about COVID during flu season. Flu season is usually December - March

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's why student who want to defer should not be allowed to do so. They should have to reapply next year.

Yes because they haven't been screwed over enough this year.

Other than missing graduation (which is boring AF anyway), how have they been more "screwed over" than the class of 2021? I would argue the juniors have it even worse. Many fewer times for testing. Missing out on the most important semester for grades into their transript--and now the 2020 class taking away possibly up to 20% of possible spots for top colleges next year.

Totally agree! Juniors are unlikely to have a full senior year either and will be living in uncertainty for much of that year about when a spike could happen and what that will mean for the rest of their year. I have two juniors right now (class of 2021) for both college and high school. I feel for both of them as they wonder what kind of a senior year they may have at all. At least the class of 2020 got through most of the year together. Nobody has it good so I am not saying that. Just that class of 2021 is dealing with as much uncertainty if not more. At least most of 2020 has their college decisions done or very close. If they are allowed to defer for a year then they're in pretty good shape IMO.