ICE Raids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so the raids didn't happen? what happened?

What happened was that our "commander in stupid" decided to announce to the world about the raids, giving people enough time to go into hiding.

During Obama's administration, there were raids, but Obama wasn't completely stupid enough to publicly announce the raids. It's like putting a big neon sign on your house saying, "Attn: the house will be empty for several weeks as we will be out of town". Who does that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:so the raids didn't happen? what happened?

What happened was that our "commander in stupid" decided to announce to the world about the raids, giving people enough time to go into hiding.

During Obama's administration, there were raids, but Obama wasn't completely stupid enough to publicly announce the raids. It's like putting a big neon sign on your house saying, "Attn: the house will be empty for several weeks as we will be out of town". Who does that?

Or maybe he just wanted to get the word out so that the people would leave on their own. It’s cheaper and more efficient than sending ICE in. Seems like a smart idea to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting, long list of possible reforms that many Dems could get behind about 4 posts above. And deafening silence from MAGAts and the WHAT DO WE DO WITH THEM hysterics.

Responses?

Raise taxes on the middle class workers to pay for all the associated costs. In areas likely to absorb a larger influx of children, prepare teachers and schools for larger classes and increased operational costs. Hire more social workers, counselors, school nurses, and ESOL and special education teachers.

Ummm no. Giving people already here workin, but under the table, a legal work visa means that they are paying taxes. And very importantly as Boomers age out, paying into SS without drawing benefits, or full benefits in the future. How much are people working for cash paying in taxes, FICA etc? If they are going to work, isn’t it better they do so openly and contribute economically?

PP here. What you've said does not negate what I wrote. Maybe you work for a public school system...if you don't, then you can't imagine all that will need to be done as more and more families immigrate here.

I have kids in FCPS. And I have enough education to know this: I am proposing solutions to the problems we have that can be attained with the resources we have. You are proposing solutions to the problems you wish we had, in a world with unlimited resources. And speaking of scare resources. Yes, we would spend more on schools. Hopefully, that would be offset by new tax revenue from people who can work legally. But increased enforcement also costs more money. And we would get no corresponding offset as people melt into the shadows.

Sometimes adulting requires working with the reality we have not the reality we want. You want to deport millions of people with no extra resources and without increasing taxes.

That isn’t reality.

Here's my response: Please work for one month in an extremely rural or urban crowded school with large numbers of children who are struggling academically and behaviorally. Then come share why we shouldn't tighten our borders.

Several elementary schools in Herndon and Annandale are classic examples of this

So many schools in MCPS are the same. It’s not working.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so the raids didn't happen? what happened?

What happened was that our "commander in stupid" decided to announce to the world about the raids, giving people enough time to go into hiding.

During Obama's administration, there were raids, but Obama wasn't completely stupid enough to publicly announce the raids. It's like putting a big neon sign on your house saying, "Attn: the house will be empty for several weeks as we will be out of town". Who does that?

Or maybe he just wanted to get the word out so that the people would leave on their own. It’s cheaper and more efficient than sending ICE in. Seems like a smart idea to me.

Then you are as gullible (I am trying to be nice) as he is. Seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting, long list of possible reforms that many Dems could get behind about 4 posts above. And deafening silence from MAGAts and the WHAT DO WE DO WITH THEM hysterics.

Responses?

Raise taxes on the middle class workers to pay for all the associated costs. In areas likely to absorb a larger influx of children, prepare teachers and schools for larger classes and increased operational costs. Hire more social workers, counselors, school nurses, and ESOL and special education teachers.

Ummm no. Giving people already here workin, but under the table, a legal work visa means that they are paying taxes. And very importantly as Boomers age out, paying into SS without drawing benefits, or full benefits in the future. How much are people working for cash paying in taxes, FICA etc? If they are going to work, isn’t it better they do so openly and contribute economically?

PP here. What you've said does not negate what I wrote. Maybe you work for a public school system...if you don't, then you can't imagine all that will need to be done as more and more families immigrate here.

I have kids in FCPS. And I have enough education to know this: I am proposing solutions to the problems we have that can be attained with the resources we have. You are proposing solutions to the problems you wish we had, in a world with unlimited resources. And speaking of scare resources. Yes, we would spend more on schools. Hopefully, that would be offset by new tax revenue from people who can work legally. But increased enforcement also costs more money. And we would get no corresponding offset as people melt into the shadows.

Sometimes adulting requires working with the reality we have not the reality we want. You want to deport millions of people with no extra resources and without increasing taxes.

That isn’t reality.

Here's my response: Please work for one month in an extremely rural or urban crowded school with large numbers of children who are struggling academically and behaviorally. Then come share why we shouldn't tighten our borders.

Who said we shouldn’t tighten our borders? No me. I said once people are here, and have been here for a decade they should be allowed to work and required to pay taxes. It’s not the same thing, unless you have a time machine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so the raids didn't happen? what happened?

Trump backed down. Again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:so the raids didn't happen? what happened?

Trump backed down. Again.

Trump is a showman, not an actual leader. The announcements were for show. What intelligent leader would tell criminals that they are about to raid your home, so go turn yourselves in before we raid you... (that was a pp's logic for why Trump announced the raid.. because was hoping they would self deport .. LOL).

[Anonymous]

so 10 pages of "oh my god he's an animal because of the raids" and 7 pages of "he's a coward because he didn't do the raids" from the same people.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so 10 pages of "oh my god he's an animal because of the raids" and 7 pages of "he's a coward because he didn't do the raids" from the same people.....

So true.
Truth is, he has deported fewer people than Obama did.
I hope they are able to locate and deport those who have violated our laws, whose cases have been adjudicated, and who have been ordered deported.
It is the law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:so 10 pages of "oh my god he's an animal because of the raids" and 7 pages of "he's a coward because he didn't do the raids" from the same people.....

So true.
Truth is, he has deported fewer people than Obama did.
I hope they are able to locate and deport those who have violated our laws, whose cases have been adjudicated, and who have been ordered deported.
It is the law.

+1

Hey, just had an idea.

Maybe he could appoint Obama as Head of Deportations?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so 10 pages of "oh my god he's an animal because of the raids" and 7 pages of "he's a coward because he didn't do the raids" from the same people.....

What makes you think they are from the same people? You think there are only 10 people posting on here?

My post was neither. It was "what an idiot to give them ample warning to go into hiding". Dumbest POTUS... ever!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so 10 pages of "oh my god he's an animal because of the raids" and 7 pages of "he's a coward because he didn't do the raids" from the same people.....

So true.
Truth is, he has deported fewer people than Obama did.
I hope they are able to locate and deport those who have violated our laws, whose cases have been adjudicated, and who have been ordered deported.
It is the law.

+1

Hey, just had an idea.

Maybe he could appoint Obama as Head of Deportations?

LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so the raids didn't happen? what happened?

What happened was that our "commander in stupid" decided to announce to the world about the raids, giving people enough time to go into hiding.

During Obama's administration, there were raids, but Obama wasn't completely stupid enough to publicly announce the raids. It's like putting a big neon sign on your house saying, "Attn: the house will be empty for several weeks as we will be out of town". Who does that?

I think he's using this as a big campaign commercial the know -nothings, who won't remember he didn't actually deport as many people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:so 10 pages of "oh my god he's an animal because of the raids" and 7 pages of "he's a coward because he didn't do the raids" from the same people.....

What makes you think they are from the same people? You think there are only 10 people posting on here?

My post was neither. It was "what an idiot to give them ample warning to go into hiding". Dumbest POTUS... ever!

Hey genius, the PP is referring to the overall hysterical, democratic herd of sheeple.

[Anonymous]

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