Larger women in ads for Target and Athleta

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t shame any man, woman, or child for their body. Life is hard and I don’t know anyone’s story or judge how they make it through. Just being alive is a victory when you look at all the diseases, accidents, general things that you cannot control or choose in life.

However, being obese is not healthy. You cannot move well or exercise with a full range of motion. You are at high risk for so many chronic health issues. And it’s not attractive. Nobody says “That’s what I want to look like.”

We are at the point now where we are celebrating obesity and it’s not good for obese people to be obese. Not everyone can be what society dictates as “attractive” and thank goodness for that, society’s “attractive” meter is ridiculous and broken. But we should not celebrate being obese.

Given your opinions, I’d think you’d be all in for obese women to see themselves in these ads — and know that their needs and fitness goals are being supported. No?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one that looks at the larger models and is turned off from buying it? I think I want to be sold the dream...

Good for them, just not sure it will help sales.

i feel like a jerk saying this but the plus size models don't sell an outfit or look for me. I can't tell how it will look on me so I just move on.

[Anonymous]

I just saw this ad. It's so unattractive. I can see everything. How can anyone feel good at this size?

https://www.girlfriend.com/products/moss-high-rise-bike-short?variant=15620796743743

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just saw this ad. It's so unattractive. I can see everything. How can anyone feel good at this size?

https://www.girlfriend.com/products/moss-high-rise-bike-short?variant=15620796743743

Wow! She makes the doughy big girl look skinny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw this ad. It's so unattractive. I can see everything. How can anyone feel good at this size?

https://www.girlfriend.com/products/moss-high-rise-bike-short?variant=15620796743743

Wow! She makes the doughy big girl look skinny.

If you click other colors they also show it on models of several different sizes. This is actually helpful. They have a very slender model, a more medium sized one, and two larger ones to represent the size range they sell. I honestly don’t want to look at the bigger models on the cover of a catalog, but showing a variety of sizes for shopping purposes is really helpful.

[Anonymous]

You aggrieved PPs in this thread will have to come to grips with the fact that you are an irrelevant marketing demographic. You can continue to wail and stomp your feet all you'd like, but the younger, trend-setting generation that drives marketing demographics values size-inclusivity and more generally advertising authenticity, and so your out-of-touch temper tantrum will only serve as part of your daily cardio.

I think what is really going on here is that you are all older, "I demand to speak to the manager" types, and you are all slowly realizing, to your abject horror, that nobody cares what you think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one that looks at the larger models and is turned off from buying it? I think I want to be sold the dream...

Good for them, just not sure it will help sales.

i feel like a jerk saying this but the plus size models don't sell an outfit or look for me. I can't tell how it will look on me so I just move on.

Now you know what heavy women have been feeling for years. It's not fun to be left out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t shame any man, woman, or child for their body. Life is hard and I don’t know anyone’s story or judge how they make it through. Just being alive is a victory when you look at all the diseases, accidents, general things that you cannot control or choose in life.

However, being obese is not healthy. You cannot move well or exercise with a full range of motion. You are at high risk for so many chronic health issues. And it’s not attractive. Nobody says “That’s what I want to look like.”

We are at the point now where we are celebrating obesity and it’s not good for obese people to be obese. Not everyone can be what society dictates as “attractive” and thank goodness for that, society’s “attractive” meter is ridiculous and broken. But we should not celebrate being obese.

Given your opinions, I’d think you’d be all in for obese women to see themselves in these ads — and know that their needs and fitness goals are being supported. No?

Honestly with the sheer amount of calories a person needs to maintain that weight and bulk, nobody is meeting any “fitness goals.” I have never been that heavy, but after my 3rd kid I was obese. 3 kids in 5 years and the last kid was over 10 lbs. My body was all kinds of messed up and I was obese. It doesn’t feel good at all. It’s not good for the human body to carry that weight around, and it actually can mess with your internal organs.


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We are talking about health and fitness here, not fat shaming. At least, I am not fat shaming. All that adipose tissue is bad news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t shame any man, woman, or child for their body. Life is hard and I don’t know anyone’s story or judge how they make it through. Just being alive is a victory when you look at all the diseases, accidents, general things that you cannot control or choose in life.

However, being obese is not healthy. You cannot move well or exercise with a full range of motion. You are at high risk for so many chronic health issues. And it’s not attractive. Nobody says “That’s what I want to look like.”

We are at the point now where we are celebrating obesity and it’s not good for obese people to be obese. Not everyone can be what society dictates as “attractive” and thank goodness for that, society’s “attractive” meter is ridiculous and broken. But we should not celebrate being obese.

Given your opinions, I’d think you’d be all in for obese women to see themselves in these ads — and know that their needs and fitness goals are being supported. No?

Honestly with the sheer amount of calories a person needs to maintain that weight and bulk, nobody is meeting any “fitness goals.” I have never been that heavy, but after my 3rd kid I was obese. 3 kids in 5 years and the last kid was over 10 lbs. My body was all kinds of messed up and I was obese. It doesn’t feel good at all. It’s not good for the human body to carry that weight around, and it actually can mess with your internal organs.


disturbed emoticons


We are talking about health and fitness here, not fat shaming. At least, I am not fat shaming. All that adipose tissue is bad news.

You've got to be kidding me. This thread is entirely, 100% about fat shaming. There is literally no scientific evidence presented literally anywhere in this trainwreck of a thread to suggest that ads designed to be inclusive of overweight and obese women contribute to an increase in obesity. Since there is no evidence-based reason to dislike size-inclusive ads, the only remaining motivation is shame and nastiness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t shame any man, woman, or child for their body. Life is hard and I don’t know anyone’s story or judge how they make it through. Just being alive is a victory when you look at all the diseases, accidents, general things that you cannot control or choose in life.

However, being obese is not healthy. You cannot move well or exercise with a full range of motion. You are at high risk for so many chronic health issues. And it’s not attractive. Nobody says “That’s what I want to look like.”

We are at the point now where we are celebrating obesity and it’s not good for obese people to be obese. Not everyone can be what society dictates as “attractive” and thank goodness for that, society’s “attractive” meter is ridiculous and broken. But we should not celebrate being obese.

Given your opinions, I’d think you’d be all in for obese women to see themselves in these ads — and know that their needs and fitness goals are being supported. No?

Honestly with the sheer amount of calories a person needs to maintain that weight and bulk, nobody is meeting any “fitness goals.” I have never been that heavy, but after my 3rd kid I was obese. 3 kids in 5 years and the last kid was over 10 lbs. My body was all kinds of messed up and I was obese. It doesn’t feel good at all. It’s not good for the human body to carry that weight around, and it actually can mess with your internal organs.


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We are talking about health and fitness here, not fat shaming. At least, I am not fat shaming. All that adipose tissue is bad news.

So you think fat people should exercise naked? If we can agree that exercise is healthy for everyone, is the issue that you don’t think fat people should get to buy clothes? Or shouldn’t get to see what they might look like before they purchase them?

It’s nice that you described your own experiences. Other people may have different ones though, and I’m not clear why you feel your pregnancy body has something to do with the need for fat people to buy clothes to exercise in. I’m really perplexed here. No one is saying that “it’s good for the human body to be obese.” My question to you is that since you seem to want obese people to be less obese, and exercise is healthy, and one of many factors in sustaining weight loss, why would you not encourage factors that would make exercising more accessible to more people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t shame any man, woman, or child for their body. Life is hard and I don’t know anyone’s story or judge how they make it through. Just being alive is a victory when you look at all the diseases, accidents, general things that you cannot control or choose in life.

However, being obese is not healthy. You cannot move well or exercise with a full range of motion. You are at high risk for so many chronic health issues. And it’s not attractive. Nobody says “That’s what I want to look like.”

We are at the point now where we are celebrating obesity and it’s not good for obese people to be obese. Not everyone can be what society dictates as “attractive” and thank goodness for that, society’s “attractive” meter is ridiculous and broken. But we should not celebrate being obese.

Given your opinions, I’d think you’d be all in for obese women to see themselves in these ads — and know that their needs and fitness goals are being supported. No?

Honestly with the sheer amount of calories a person needs to maintain that weight and bulk, nobody is meeting any “fitness goals.” I have never been that heavy, but after my 3rd kid I was obese. 3 kids in 5 years and the last kid was over 10 lbs. My body was all kinds of messed up and I was obese. It doesn’t feel good at all. It’s not good for the human body to carry that weight around, and it actually can mess with your internal organs.


disturbed emoticons


We are talking about health and fitness here, not fat shaming. At least, I am not fat shaming. All that adipose tissue is bad news.

You've got to be kidding me. This thread is entirely, 100% about fat shaming. There is literally no scientific evidence presented literally anywhere in this trainwreck of a thread to suggest that ads designed to be inclusive of overweight and obese women contribute to an increase in obesity. Since there is no evidence-based reason to dislike size-inclusive ads, the only remaining motivation is shame and nastiness.

I'm paraphrasing here, but someone once said the most courageous act a woman can do is to love herself against a world constantly telling her not to. The PPs so haunted by the representation of women in other sizes than those they find palatable are just mad at the audacity of a woman to not hate herself, and to be unencumbered by their views that she actually flaunts herself in outfits they criticize themselves for wearing. Instead of spending time putting people down for being able to positively view themselves after everyone else told them not to, why not spend some of that energy on loving yourself rather than sitting here pontificating to the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Sorry; I posted above about my experience being obese after having kids. I browsing in the thread about beauty mistakes women 40 plus make...where Kate Middleton is being savaged for being “too thin” and “haggard.”

I don’t think overweight, obese women should exercise naked or be stricken from advertising; but “fat acceptance” should not be a thing. For health reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry; I posted above about my experience being obese after having kids. I browsing in the thread about beauty mistakes women 40 plus make...where Kate Middleton is being savaged for being “too thin” and “haggard.”

I don’t think overweight, obese women should exercise naked or be stricken from advertising; but “fat acceptance” should not be a thing. For health reasons.

You’ve decided to jump into a three year old thread about one particular company that has had the audacity to use a variety of models in a variety of sizes so that people who might want to buy their work out clothes can make better guesses about whether the clothing will work for them before they make a purchase.

This thread is in the fashion section. If you’re trying to make a point about “health”, perhaps another thread in the actual “health” section might fit (haha) better?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry; I posted above about my experience being obese after having kids. I browsing in the thread about beauty mistakes women 40 plus make...where Kate Middleton is being savaged for being “too thin” and “haggard.”

I don’t think overweight, obese women should exercise naked or be stricken from advertising; but “fat acceptance” should not be a thing. For health reasons.

You’ve decided to jump into a three year old thread about one particular company that has had the audacity to use a variety of models in a variety of sizes so that people who might want to buy their work out clothes can make better guesses about whether the clothing will work for them before they make a purchase.

This thread is in the fashion section. If you’re trying to make a point about “health”, perhaps another thread in the actual “health” section might fit (haha) better?

+1

That PP sounds preposterous. Ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does everyone cry "public health crisis" about fat/obese people but y'all don't seem to mind ethical/moral/value issues within your own communities and societies, drug abuse, opioid abuse, the sexualization of children, etc. Like this country has much bigger problems than there are a few fat people selling me clothes.

what makes you say we don't care about those issues? I care a huge amount about all of those issues in my community and in society at large. I can care about that and also be put off by 250 lbs in spandex pants with fat rolls overflowing.