Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, the curiously ignorant reaction by a small vocal group in the progressive movement has demonstrated how incompatible their ideas and goals are with the principles that has made this country great.

Please show me in the US Constitution where the United States of America is a Christian nation.

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the truth is several of the Founding Fathers were NOT believers

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religion has ZERO place in government

She did not apply for a government position, she apply to the private educational institution. What does working for a private firm has to to with government?

Yeah, nothing. But if you are so high up in the national political order, why would you associate yourself with a group that has such vocal disdain for millions of Americans? Seems very polarizing.

She has rights to associate herself with whatever group she wants to. Weather it will be a Muslim group, or Christian, it is still her freedom to choose. She didn't do it to appeal to any of the Americans. She used to teach in the local VA Christian school for years, so it is not something that she did for publicity. She follows her passion and believes.

She follows her passion and beliefs that LGBTQ is wrong. And openly admitting that by applying for this job.

Would it be ok for her to join the KKK if that’s where her passion and beliefs take her?

It is not an issue weather her believes are right or wrong. The issue is whether her believes are legal or not. According to the US. Constitution, she has a right to exercise her freedom of religion. Is KKK a religion now?

A lot of similarities- hurting certain groups of people and wanting them to suffer.

Religion is constitutionally protected freedom. KKK is not. Nothing even close to similarity. Could you please name one person (full name please) who Mrs. Pense personally made to suffer?

She is openly supporting LGBT discrimination. That hurts all of us.

It is a private, religious school. If you don’t agree with the school or her religious beliefs, you don’t have to work there or send your kids there. Pretty simple. Freedom of religion and the Pence family is allowed to exercise it. It’s no longer mainstream and I don’t agree with it but I don’t see how anyone is hurt by it.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, the curiously ignorant reaction by a small vocal group in the progressive movement has demonstrated how incompatible their ideas and goals are with the principles that has made this country great.

Please show me in the US Constitution where the United States of America is a Christian nation.

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the truth is several of the Founding Fathers were NOT believers

+100000

religion has ZERO place in government

She did not apply for a government position, she apply to the private educational institution. What does working for a private firm has to to with government?

Yeah, nothing. But if you are so high up in the national political order, why would you associate yourself with a group that has such vocal disdain for millions of Americans? Seems very polarizing.

She has rights to associate herself with whatever group she wants to. Weather it will be a Muslim group, or Christian, it is still her freedom to choose. She didn't do it to appeal to any of the Americans. She used to teach in the local VA Christian school for years, so it is not something that she did for publicity. She follows her passion and believes.

She follows her passion and beliefs that LGBTQ is wrong. And openly admitting that by applying for this job.

Would it be ok for her to join the KKK if that’s where her passion and beliefs take her?

It is not an issue weather her believes are right or wrong. The issue is whether her believes are legal or not. According to the US. Constitution, she has a right to exercise her freedom of religion. Is KKK a religion now?

A lot of similarities- hurting certain groups of people and wanting them to suffer.

Religion is constitutionally protected freedom. KKK is not. Nothing even close to similarity. Could you please name one person (full name please) who Mrs. Pense personally made to suffer?

She is openly supporting LGBT discrimination. That hurts all of us.

It is a private, religious school. If you don’t agree with the school or her religious beliefs, you don’t have to work there or send your kids there. Pretty simple. Freedom of religion and the Pence family is allowed to exercise it. It’s no longer mainstream and I don’t agree with it but I don’t see how anyone is hurt by it.

She is openly supporting that though. As the wife of the VPOTUS. You don’t see a problem with open bigotry for someone in her position?

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, the curiously ignorant reaction by a small vocal group in the progressive movement has demonstrated how incompatible their ideas and goals are with the principles that has made this country great.

Please show me in the US Constitution where the United States of America is a Christian nation.

this

the truth is several of the Founding Fathers were NOT believers

+100000

religion has ZERO place in government

She did not apply for a government position, she apply to the private educational institution. What does working for a private firm has to to with government?

Yeah, nothing. But if you are so high up in the national political order, why would you associate yourself with a group that has such vocal disdain for millions of Americans? Seems very polarizing.

She has rights to associate herself with whatever group she wants to. Weather it will be a Muslim group, or Christian, it is still her freedom to choose. She didn't do it to appeal to any of the Americans. She used to teach in the local VA Christian school for years, so it is not something that she did for publicity. She follows her passion and believes.

She follows her passion and beliefs that LGBTQ is wrong. And openly admitting that by applying for this job.

Would it be ok for her to join the KKK if that’s where her passion and beliefs take her?

It is not an issue weather her believes are right or wrong. The issue is whether her believes are legal or not. According to the US. Constitution, she has a right to exercise her freedom of religion. Is KKK a religion now?

A lot of similarities- hurting certain groups of people and wanting them to suffer.

Religion is constitutionally protected freedom. KKK is not. Nothing even close to similarity. Could you please name one person (full name please) who Mrs. Pense personally made to suffer?

She is openly supporting LGBT discrimination. That hurts all of us.

It is a private, religious school. If you don’t agree with the school or her religious beliefs, you don’t have to work there or send your kids there. Pretty simple. Freedom of religion and the Pence family is allowed to exercise it. It’s no longer mainstream and I don’t agree with it but I don’t see how anyone is hurt by it.

She is openly supporting that though. As the wife of the VPOTUS. You don’t see a problem with open bigotry for someone in her position?

what about Tlaib and her sticky note with Palestine written on it? The Israeli-Palestinian debate is political, social, cultural, religious, you name it.

So where is the line drawn? Where do you stop your own beliefs from leaking into the public domain?

Pence is a Christian. However that's defined is anyone's guess, as there are levels of religiosity created by different interpretations. She believes in X. She is working in a school that supports her belief in X. Parents are paying TUITION to send their kids to this school. It's not publicly funded. Why can't Pence work in an environment that supports her views? She's not cramming those views down our throats.

I, for one, am not threatened by her position. But you apparently are. Why is that? Do you think that her job as an art teacher in an evangelical school will influence groups of people to suddenly change their views and keep Trump in office?

lol! You must think most Americans are really stupid if that's the case.

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what about Tlaib and her sticky note with Palestine written on it? The Israeli-Palestinian debate is political, social, cultural, religious, you name it.

So where is the line drawn? Where do you stop your own beliefs from leaking into the public domain?

Pence is a Christian. However that's defined is anyone's guess, as there are levels of religiosity created by different interpretations. She believes in X. She is working in a school that supports her belief in X. Parents are paying TUITION to send their kids to this school. It's not publicly funded. Why can't Pence work in an environment that supports her views? She's not cramming those views down our throats.

I, for one, am not threatened by her position. But you apparently are. Why is that? Do you think that her job as an art teacher in an evangelical school will influence groups of people to suddenly change their views and keep Trump in office?

lol! You must think most Americans are really stupid if that's the case.

I, for one, am glad she is doing it because it totally tanks Pence's future presidential aspirations that they openly embrace an anti-gay agenda. Also the creationist stuff. Wackadoodle!

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, the curiously ignorant reaction by a small vocal group in the progressive movement has demonstrated how incompatible their ideas and goals are with the principles that has made this country great.

Please show me in the US Constitution where the United States of America is a Christian nation.

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the truth is several of the Founding Fathers were NOT believers

+100000

religion has ZERO place in government

She did not apply for a government position, she apply to the private educational institution. What does working for a private firm has to to with government?

Yeah, nothing. But if you are so high up in the national political order, why would you associate yourself with a group that has such vocal disdain for millions of Americans? Seems very polarizing.

She has rights to associate herself with whatever group she wants to. Weather it will be a Muslim group, or Christian, it is still her freedom to choose. She didn't do it to appeal to any of the Americans. She used to teach in the local VA Christian school for years, so it is not something that she did for publicity. She follows her passion and believes.

She follows her passion and beliefs that LGBTQ is wrong. And openly admitting that by applying for this job.

Would it be ok for her to join the KKK if that’s where her passion and beliefs take her?

It is not an issue weather her believes are right or wrong. The issue is whether her believes are legal or not. According to the US. Constitution, she has a right to exercise her freedom of religion. Is KKK a religion now?

A lot of similarities- hurting certain groups of people and wanting them to suffer.

Religion is constitutionally protected freedom. KKK is not. Nothing even close to similarity. Could you please name one person (full name please) who Mrs. Pense personally made to suffer?

She is openly supporting LGBT discrimination. That hurts all of us.

It is a private, religious school. If you don’t agree with the school or her religious beliefs, you don’t have to work there or send your kids there. Pretty simple. Freedom of religion and the Pence family is allowed to exercise it. It’s no longer mainstream and I don’t agree with it but I don’t see how anyone is hurt by it.

I can’t believe I have to make this obvious point, but: it upsets people that the powerless LGBT kids enrolled in the school will be harmed by adults.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, the curiously ignorant reaction by a small vocal group in the progressive movement has demonstrated how incompatible their ideas and goals are with the principles that has made this country great.

Please show me in the US Constitution where the United States of America is a Christian nation.

this

the truth is several of the Founding Fathers were NOT believers

+100000

religion has ZERO place in government

She did not apply for a government position, she apply to the private educational institution. What does working for a private firm has to to with government?

Yeah, nothing. But if you are so high up in the national political order, why would you associate yourself with a group that has such vocal disdain for millions of Americans? Seems very polarizing.

She has rights to associate herself with whatever group she wants to. Weather it will be a Muslim group, or Christian, it is still her freedom to choose. She didn't do it to appeal to any of the Americans. She used to teach in the local VA Christian school for years, so it is not something that she did for publicity. She follows her passion and believes.

She follows her passion and beliefs that LGBTQ is wrong. And openly admitting that by applying for this job.

Would it be ok for her to join the KKK if that’s where her passion and beliefs take her?

It is not an issue weather her believes are right or wrong. The issue is whether her believes are legal or not. According to the US. Constitution, she has a right to exercise her freedom of religion. Is KKK a religion now?

A lot of similarities- hurting certain groups of people and wanting them to suffer.

Religion is constitutionally protected freedom. KKK is not. Nothing even close to similarity. Could you please name one person (full name please) who Mrs. Pense personally made to suffer?

She is openly supporting LGBT discrimination. That hurts all of us.

It is a private, religious school. If you don’t agree with the school or her religious beliefs, you don’t have to work there or send your kids there. Pretty simple. Freedom of religion and the Pence family is allowed to exercise it. It’s no longer mainstream and I don’t agree with it but I don’t see how anyone is hurt by it.

She is openly supporting that though. As the wife of the VPOTUS. You don’t see a problem with open bigotry for someone in her position?

I don’t think it’s bigotry. Just because most people, including you and I, don’t agree with it does not make it bigotry.

[Anonymous]

Not being accepting of other human beings seems pretty bigoted to me. And not very Christian.

We don’t have to tolerate intolerance.

They can believe what they want, but it isn’t a good look for our second family.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, the curiously ignorant reaction by a small vocal group in the progressive movement has demonstrated how incompatible their ideas and goals are with the principles that has made this country great.

Please show me in the US Constitution where the United States of America is a Christian nation.

this

the truth is several of the Founding Fathers were NOT believers

+100000

religion has ZERO place in government

She did not apply for a government position, she apply to the private educational institution. What does working for a private firm has to to with government?

Yeah, nothing. But if you are so high up in the national political order, why would you associate yourself with a group that has such vocal disdain for millions of Americans? Seems very polarizing.

She has rights to associate herself with whatever group she wants to. Weather it will be a Muslim group, or Christian, it is still her freedom to choose. She didn't do it to appeal to any of the Americans. She used to teach in the local VA Christian school for years, so it is not something that she did for publicity. She follows her passion and believes.

She follows her passion and beliefs that LGBTQ is wrong. And openly admitting that by applying for this job.

Would it be ok for her to join the KKK if that’s where her passion and beliefs take her?

It is not an issue weather her believes are right or wrong. The issue is whether her believes are legal or not. According to the US. Constitution, she has a right to exercise her freedom of religion. Is KKK a religion now?

A lot of similarities- hurting certain groups of people and wanting them to suffer.

Religion is constitutionally protected freedom. KKK is not. Nothing even close to similarity. Could you please name one person (full name please) who Mrs. Pense personally made to suffer?

She is openly supporting LGBT discrimination. That hurts all of us.

It is a private, religious school. If you don’t agree with the school or her religious beliefs, you don’t have to work there or send your kids there. Pretty simple. Freedom of religion and the Pence family is allowed to exercise it. It’s no longer mainstream and I don’t agree with it but I don’t see how anyone is hurt by it.

I can’t believe I have to make this obvious point, but: it upsets people that the powerless LGBT kids enrolled in the school will be harmed by adults.

Regardless of what school such s child attends, if their parents hold such religious beliefs the kids going to have problems. That’s on the parents, not the art teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:Not being accepting of other human beings seems pretty bigoted to me. And not very Christian.

We don’t have to tolerate intolerance.

They can believe what they want, but it isn’t a good look for our second family.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, the curiously ignorant reaction by a small vocal group in the progressive movement has demonstrated how incompatible their ideas and goals are with the principles that has made this country great.

Please show me in the US Constitution where the United States of America is a Christian nation.

this

the truth is several of the Founding Fathers were NOT believers

+100000

religion has ZERO place in government

She did not apply for a government position, she apply to the private educational institution. What does working for a private firm has to to with government?

Yeah, nothing. But if you are so high up in the national political order, why would you associate yourself with a group that has such vocal disdain for millions of Americans? Seems very polarizing.

She has rights to associate herself with whatever group she wants to. Weather it will be a Muslim group, or Christian, it is still her freedom to choose. She didn't do it to appeal to any of the Americans. She used to teach in the local VA Christian school for years, so it is not something that she did for publicity. She follows her passion and believes.

She follows her passion and beliefs that LGBTQ is wrong. And openly admitting that by applying for this job.

Would it be ok for her to join the KKK if that’s where her passion and beliefs take her?

It is not an issue weather her believes are right or wrong. The issue is whether her believes are legal or not. According to the US. Constitution, she has a right to exercise her freedom of religion. Is KKK a religion now?

A lot of similarities- hurting certain groups of people and wanting them to suffer.

Religion is constitutionally protected freedom. KKK is not. Nothing even close to similarity. Could you please name one person (full name please) who Mrs. Pense personally made to suffer?

She is openly supporting LGBT discrimination. That hurts all of us.

It is a private, religious school. If you don’t agree with the school or her religious beliefs, you don’t have to work there or send your kids there. Pretty simple. Freedom of religion and the Pence family is allowed to exercise it. It’s no longer mainstream and I don’t agree with it but I don’t see how anyone is hurt by it.

I can’t believe I have to make this obvious point, but: it upsets people that the powerless LGBT kids enrolled in the school will be harmed by adults.

Regardless of what school such s child attends, if their parents hold such religious beliefs the kids going to have problems. That’s on the parents, not the art teacher.

Certainly. But if the art teacher is also the wife of the VP and openly accepts this bigotry wouldn’t that make the kid feel even worse?

[Anonymous]

Right wing Christianity isn’t Christian, in the sense that they reject most or Jesus’ teachings about how we should treat one another. So I’m not surprised that a school like this one would have typical rabid anti-LGBTQ views.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, the curiously ignorant reaction by a small vocal group in the progressive movement has demonstrated how incompatible their ideas and goals are with the principles that has made this country great.

Please show me in the US Constitution where the United States of America is a Christian nation.

this

the truth is several of the Founding Fathers were NOT believers

+100000

religion has ZERO place in government

She did not apply for a government position, she apply to the private educational institution. What does working for a private firm has to to with government?

Yeah, nothing. But if you are so high up in the national political order, why would you associate yourself with a group that has such vocal disdain for millions of Americans? Seems very polarizing.

She has rights to associate herself with whatever group she wants to. Weather it will be a Muslim group, or Christian, it is still her freedom to choose. She didn't do it to appeal to any of the Americans. She used to teach in the local VA Christian school for years, so it is not something that she did for publicity. She follows her passion and believes.

She follows her passion and beliefs that LGBTQ is wrong. And openly admitting that by applying for this job.

Would it be ok for her to join the KKK if that’s where her passion and beliefs take her?

It is not an issue weather her believes are right or wrong. The issue is whether her believes are legal or not. According to the US. Constitution, she has a right to exercise her freedom of religion. Is KKK a religion now?

A lot of similarities- hurting certain groups of people and wanting them to suffer.

Religion is constitutionally protected freedom. KKK is not. Nothing even close to similarity. Could you please name one person (full name please) who Mrs. Pense personally made to suffer?

She is openly supporting LGBT discrimination. That hurts all of us.

So, if you openly support LGBT, then you automatically discriminate straight people? That hurts all of us.

No if you support LGBTQ rights, you support LGBTQ rights.

Do you need a refresher math and logic class?

Yes, I need a refresher in logic:

You support LGBTQ rights -- does not equal discriminating Christian people.
Christian people support marriage between man and woman -- equals discriminating LGBTQ.

Where is the logic?

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that when you discriminate against LGBTQ, you aren’t supporting justice for all.

Nobody who supports justice for all wants to take AWAY rights from anyone else.

No, you dont' support justice for all. You support ONLY justice for a limited LGBTQ community. Nobody who support Muslim, or Christian believes want to take AWAY rights from LGBTQ.

[Anonymous]

Your religious beliefs don’t belong in our laws. Period.

You don’t have to perform same sex marriages in your church. Feel free to continue on with your “not Adam and Steve” nonsense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that when you discriminate against LGBTQ, you aren’t supporting justice for all.

Nobody who supports justice for all wants to take AWAY rights from anyone else.

No, you dont' support justice for all. You support ONLY justice for a limited LGBTQ community. Nobody who support Muslim, or Christian believes want to take AWAY rights from LGBTQ.

You just want to deny them things