Voter suppression

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Certain Ohio residents who have been purged from the state’s voter rolls must be allowed to cast provisional ballots in next week’s elections, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday.

The Ohio ruling was the latest chapter in a long-running case over the state’s process for removing from its rolls people who haven’t voted in recent elections and don’t reply to state notices to confirm their eligibility.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/court-clears-ohio-voters-purged-from-rolls-to-cast-ballots-1541022642?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/TghWNGuR9C

Ohio's secretary of state said most of the 180,000 voter registrations being purged are duplicates, belong to deceased voters or people who have moved.

But a Columbus Dispatch investigation found the vast majority are being purged for failure to vote.

https://www.dispatch.com/news/20190930/vast-majority-of-180000-ohio-voters-purged-because-they-didnt-vote?template=ampart&__twitter_impression=true

I had mine purged for failure to vote and I think its BS. But requiring ID doesnt seem like it's a lot to ask, especially when you consider all of the other things in life that require ID.

Ohio has a voter ID law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Certain Ohio residents who have been purged from the state’s voter rolls must be allowed to cast provisional ballots in next week’s elections, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday.

The Ohio ruling was the latest chapter in a long-running case over the state’s process for removing from its rolls people who haven’t voted in recent elections and don’t reply to state notices to confirm their eligibility.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/court-clears-ohio-voters-purged-from-rolls-to-cast-ballots-1541022642?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/TghWNGuR9C

Ohio's secretary of state said most of the 180,000 voter registrations being purged are duplicates, belong to deceased voters or people who have moved.

But a Columbus Dispatch investigation found the vast majority are being purged for failure to vote.

https://www.dispatch.com/news/20190930/vast-majority-of-180000-ohio-voters-purged-because-they-didnt-vote?template=ampart&__twitter_impression=true

I had mine purged for failure to vote and I think its BS. But requiring ID doesnt seem like it's a lot to ask, especially when you consider all of the other things in life that require ID.

At first blush, sure. But in some states, they’ll accept some IDs but not others (I think it was Texas that allowed NRA cards but didn’t allow student IDs from colleges), and then to further pinpoint black people (because that’s what voter ID laws do, same as poll taxes and literacy tests did) they’ll even close certain offices in rural majority black counties so that people who don’t have cars or the proof that one needs to get an ID (like birth certificates and social security cards), it becomes almost impossible to get one.

It’s cheating. And it’s racist AF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Incredible story from the Atlanta Journal Constitution on the impact of closing precincts in Georgia.

"Precinct closures and longer distances likely prevented an estimated 54,000 to 85,000 voters from casting ballots on Election Day last year."



https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/precinct-closures-harm-voter-turnout-georgia-ajc-analysis-finds/11sVcLyQCHuQRC8qtZ6lYP/amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/06/stacey-abrams-stolen-election-myth-endures-democratic-party/amp/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Certain Ohio residents who have been purged from the state’s voter rolls must be allowed to cast provisional ballots in next week’s elections, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday.

The Ohio ruling was the latest chapter in a long-running case over the state’s process for removing from its rolls people who haven’t voted in recent elections and don’t reply to state notices to confirm their eligibility.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/court-clears-ohio-voters-purged-from-rolls-to-cast-ballots-1541022642?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/TghWNGuR9C

Ohio's secretary of state said most of the 180,000 voter registrations being purged are duplicates, belong to deceased voters or people who have moved.

But a Columbus Dispatch investigation found the vast majority are being purged for failure to vote.

https://www.dispatch.com/news/20190930/vast-majority-of-180000-ohio-voters-purged-because-they-didnt-vote?template=ampart&__twitter_impression=true

I had mine purged for failure to vote and I think its BS. But requiring ID doesnt seem like it's a lot to ask, especially when you consider all of the other things in life that require ID.

Voting is a right enshrined in the constitution. There should be no impediments to doing it. If the state is going to demand people show an id to vote, it needs to give people an acceptable id free of charge and make it easy for everyone to access that id, even the poorest among us, those without transportation, those who cannot travel to get id, those without fixed (or any) addresses, those who cannot take time off during normal working hours to secure that id.

How many states do that? None. And most of the states with voter id laws are actively trying to make it difficult for the poor and elderly and anyone who might more likely be a Democrat to get an id that is accepted for voting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren't these same people complaining about all the other things in ordinary life that require presenting ID?

How come no one is protesting showing ID to buy alcohol or cigarettes? Or prescription meds? Or to receive govt benefits?

How is it the *only* thing people get outraged about having to show ID for, is *voting*? Being required to show ID for all the other stuff is fine with them.

It really is a magical contradiction, isn't it?

Are those things enshrined in our constitution as a right?

Just like free speech and gun ownership has responsibilities attached to them, so does voting.

The responsibility is to go vote. It's not for one group of citizens to do what they can to make it harder for other citizens to vote.

Sure. To go vote, multiple times, under various previously-registered names! Enabled by not having to show an ID proving who you are.

If I wanted to, I could complete a half dozen (or more... many, many more) voter registration forms under made-up names, or names of dead people, and then on election day go and vote as each of those people, with only my mouth as my proof of being who I am. Or even easier, just request absentee ballots for each and vote that way.


It republicans were doing this, democrats would be marching with pitchforks on their local boards of election demanding voter ID.


Maybe that's what needs to happen.

Show us that's actually happening and you might get a more sympathetic response from me. As it is...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And turnout is high in part because of fraudulent voting.

You can insult me, but that speaks to your character, not mine.

You are LYING.

That's not an insult, it's a fact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Should be default registration when you go to the DMV for any kind of id.

As long as you have to show that same ID in order to vote.

Republicans have always fought that as well. Why, it's almost as if they feel threatened by efforts to incrfease voter turnout.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren't these same people complaining about all the other things in ordinary life that require presenting ID?

How come no one is protesting showing ID to buy alcohol or cigarettes? Or prescription meds? Or to receive govt benefits?

How is it the *only* thing people get outraged about having to show ID for, is *voting*? Being required to show ID for all the other stuff is fine with them.

It really is a magical contradiction, isn't it?

Are those things enshrined in our constitution as a right?

Nah they're just required for daily life.

Same i might add for buying a house, visting the social security office, applying for most government benefits, cashing checks, western union, and establishing a bank account.

And still not enshrined in our constitution as a right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And turnout is high in part because of fraudulent voting.

You can insult me, but that speaks to your character, not mine.

You really should watch Carol Anderson explain that you’re not correct. Conveniently, the interview is post #1 of this thread.

As Ms. Anderson states, an analysis done by a law professor of one billion votes found only 31 were fraudulent. Out of a BILLION.

A billion votes?

That's pretty good turnout in a country with a total population of 325,000,000.

So, there are these things called elections, and more than one have happened in the past. So if I analyze say, ten elections, because I am being thorough, I could analyze a billion votes. You’re welcome.

Intentional stupidity is a hallmark of right wing rhetoric.

[Anonymous]

https://apnews.com/af2f0ede054d8baebbe1bb6ca47b4895

[Anonymous]

A Wisconsin appeals court has put on hold an order to immediately remove up to 209,000 names from the state's voter registration rolls, handing Democrats who had fought the move a victory.
https://apnews.com/f3480dece25251ca878fb9a62299f073

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A Wisconsin appeals court has put on hold an order to immediately remove up to 209,000 names from the state's voter registration rolls, handing Democrats who had fought the move a victory.
https://apnews.com/f3480dece25251ca878fb9a62299f073

Good!

[Anonymous]

South Carolina agrees to change voter registration requirements after Democratic officials sue. Almost one million eligible South Carolinians can now register to vote.

https://amp.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article239387333.html?__twitter_impression=true

[Anonymous]

does this put sc in play?

[Anonymous]

People can make whatever arguments they'd like, but having to simply show identification that you are eligible to vote is not suppression. People have to make some effort and this is minimal.