BRYC ECNL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of it matters until 10th grade. None of it. Zero percent of it.

This is silly.

This is fact. Majority of teams are held up by a few outlines or early bloomers Many of the advantages disappear after puberty . The 10th grade year is about the time things become equal. U16-17 years are the most competetive in youth soccer for a reason. Its also the year rwcruiting starts.

No youth teams remain successful throughout their life span without the injection of new talent. Most successful U16-17 team rosters have changed drastically.

[Anonymous]

Regarding the results posted above, I think the ECNL clubs are only playing 6 matches against each other (U13, U14, U15, U16, U17, U18/19) not 7.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of it matters until 10th grade. None of it. Zero percent of it.

In that case why does Loudoun continue to exist in ECNL? Asking for a friend.

Because they have close to $7 million in revenue per year and growing. This can get you, and buy you, many things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of it matters until 10th grade. None of it. Zero percent of it.

In that case why does Loudoun continue to exist in ECNL? Asking for a friend.

Because they have close to $7 million in revenue per year and growing. This can get you, and buy you, many things.

Loudoun got ECNL because FCV vacated the spot. You forgot US Soccer started a fight and left

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regarding the results posted above, I think the ECNL clubs are only playing 6 matches against each other (U13, U14, U15, U16, U17, U18/19) not 7.

Yeah - you're right. Must have double counted one age group. Hopefully this is better (it doesn't really change the conclusion):

Arlington (W12 D4 L2)

vs VDA W4 D1 L1
vs McLean W3 D2 L1
vs Loudoun W5 D1 L0


BRYC (W4 D2 L12)

vs McLean W0 D2 L4
vs Richmond W1 D0 L5
vs VDA W3 D0 L3


Loudoun (W1 D3 L14)

vs Richmond W1 D0 L5
vs VDA W0 D2 L4
vs Arlington W0 D1 L5


McLean (W5 D5 L4)

vs BRYC W4 D2 L0
vs Arlington W1 D2 L3
vs Richmond W0 D1 L1


Richmond (W11 D1 L2)

vs Loudoun W5 D0 L1
vs BRYC W5 D0 L1
vs McLean W1 D1 L0


VDA (W8 D3 L7)

vs Arlington W1 D1 L4
vs Loudoun W4 D2
vs BRYC W3 D0 L3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of it matters until 10th grade. None of it. Zero percent of it.

In that case why does Loudoun continue to exist in ECNL? Asking for a friend.

Because they have close to $7 million in revenue per year and growing. This can get you, and buy you, many things.

Apparently $7 million can't buy wins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of it matters until 10th grade. None of it. Zero percent of it.

This is silly.

This is fact. Majority of teams are held up by a few outlines or early bloomers Many of the advantages disappear after puberty . The 10th grade year is about the time things become equal. U16-17 years are the most competetive in youth soccer for a reason. Its also the year rwcruiting starts.

No youth teams remain successful throughout their life span without the injection of new talent. Most successful U16-17 team rosters have changed drastically.

This is utter nonsense. The majority of teams are not "held up by a few early bloomers" and many of the advantages do not disappear after puberty. There are a handful of players who possess a temporary significant physical advantage over other kids, but
- it usually lasts a year or two only
- those kids often play up a year - in my experience this is more likely to happen on the clubs with stronger records as well
- the best teams often have none of these players in any case
- by seventh and eighth grade well coached kids with good technical skills will usually beat stronger faster kids with lesser technical skills, and the kids with the best technical skills in seventh and eighth grade usually have the best technical skills in tenth, eleventh and twelth grade as well - so the gap actually grows as they catch up physically.

And yes of course teams change over time as kids move and clubs recruit - but (a) good clubs don't make wholesale changes and there is considerable continuity from one year to the next, and (b) I don't see why this means the the results from U13,14, 15 and 16 aren't important. Those results are indicative of how well the club is developing younger players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of it matters until 10th grade. None of it. Zero percent of it.

This is silly.

This is fact. Majority of teams are held up by a few outlines or early bloomers Many of the advantages disappear after puberty . The 10th grade year is about the time things become equal. U16-17 years are the most competetive in youth soccer for a reason. Its also the year rwcruiting starts.

No youth teams remain successful throughout their life span without the injection of new talent. Most successful U16-17 team rosters have changed drastically.

This is utter nonsense. The majority of teams are not "held up by a few early bloomers" and many of the advantages do not disappear after puberty. There are a handful of players who possess a temporary significant physical advantage over other kids, but
- it usually lasts a year or two only
- those kids often play up a year - in my experience this is more likely to happen on the clubs with stronger records as well
- the best teams often have none of these players in any case
- by seventh and eighth grade well coached kids with good technical skills will usually beat stronger faster kids with lesser technical skills, and the kids with the best technical skills in seventh and eighth grade usually have the best technical skills in tenth, eleventh and twelth grade as well - so the gap actually grows as they catch up physically.

And yes of course teams change over time as kids move and clubs recruit - but (a) good clubs don't make wholesale changes and there is considerable continuity from one year to the next, and (b) I don't see why this means the the results from U13,14, 15 and 16 aren't important. Those results are indicative of how well the club is developing younger players.

Non-sense? Tell me how many cycles you have witnessed. Anyone....and I mean anyone...who had a kid go through an entire cycle can tell you that the super star pre-puberty team will look nothing like the U17 team.
Picking winners and lovers before puberty is an absolute waste in time.

This is not a statement about development. Its a statement about younger teams being carried. In the vast majority of cases, I can handpick two kids from any top team and drastically change the outcome of that team.

[Anonymous]

*picking winners and losers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of it matters until 10th grade. None of it. Zero percent of it.

This is silly.

This is fact. Majority of teams are held up by a few outlines or early bloomers Many of the advantages disappear after puberty . The 10th grade year is about the time things become equal. U16-17 years are the most competetive in youth soccer for a reason. Its also the year rwcruiting starts.

No youth teams remain successful throughout their life span without the injection of new talent. Most successful U16-17 team rosters have changed drastically.

This is utter nonsense. The majority of teams are not "held up by a few early bloomers" and many of the advantages do not disappear after puberty. There are a handful of players who possess a temporary significant physical advantage over other kids, but
- it usually lasts a year or two only
- those kids often play up a year - in my experience this is more likely to happen on the clubs with stronger records as well
- the best teams often have none of these players in any case
- by seventh and eighth grade well coached kids with good technical skills will usually beat stronger faster kids with lesser technical skills, and the kids with the best technical skills in seventh and eighth grade usually have the best technical skills in tenth, eleventh and twelth grade as well - so the gap actually grows as they catch up physically.

And yes of course teams change over time as kids move and clubs recruit - but (a) good clubs don't make wholesale changes and there is considerable continuity from one year to the next, and (b) I don't see why this means the the results from U13,14, 15 and 16 aren't important. Those results are indicative of how well the club is developing younger players.

Non-sense? Tell me how many cycles you have witnessed. Anyone....and I mean anyone...who had a kid go through an entire cycle can tell you that the super star pre-puberty team will look nothing like the U17 team.
Picking winners and lovers before puberty is an absolute waste in time.

This is not a statement about development. Its a statement about younger teams being carried. In the vast majority of cases, I can handpick two kids from any top team and drastically change the outcome of that team.

I'm on my third cycle as a parent. And - while there is certainly some truth to what you're saying at rec level and probably at the lower levels of travel - the higher level the less it is the case, and at the very top level it is not the case at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of it matters until 10th grade. None of it. Zero percent of it.

In that case why does Loudoun continue to exist in ECNL? Asking for a friend.

Because they have close to $7 million in revenue per year and growing. This can get you, and buy you, many things.

Apparently $7 million can't buy wins.

They tried to offer me a nice gift card and a 2-night hotel stay to call on their side for a State cup they were hosting.
I declined and reported them. Never found out where it my report went or if anything happened. Go figure.

-Match official.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of it matters until 10th grade. None of it. Zero percent of it.

This is silly.

This is fact. Majority of teams are held up by a few outlines or early bloomers Many of the advantages disappear after puberty . The 10th grade year is about the time things become equal. U16-17 years are the most competetive in youth soccer for a reason. Its also the year rwcruiting starts.

No youth teams remain successful throughout their life span without the injection of new talent. Most successful U16-17 team rosters have changed drastically.

This is utter nonsense. The majority of teams are not "held up by a few early bloomers" and many of the advantages do not disappear after puberty. There are a handful of players who possess a temporary significant physical advantage over other kids, but
- it usually lasts a year or two only
- those kids often play up a year - in my experience this is more likely to happen on the clubs with stronger records as well
- the best teams often have none of these players in any case
- by seventh and eighth grade well coached kids with good technical skills will usually beat stronger faster kids with lesser technical skills, and the kids with the best technical skills in seventh and eighth grade usually have the best technical skills in tenth, eleventh and twelth grade as well - so the gap actually grows as they catch up physically.

And yes of course teams change over time as kids move and clubs recruit - but (a) good clubs don't make wholesale changes and there is considerable continuity from one year to the next, and (b) I don't see why this means the the results from U13,14, 15 and 16 aren't important. Those results are indicative of how well the club is developing younger players.

Non-sense? Tell me how many cycles you have witnessed. Anyone....and I mean anyone...who had a kid go through an entire cycle can tell you that the super star pre-puberty team will look nothing like the U17 team.
Picking winners and lovers before puberty is an absolute waste in time.

This is not a statement about development. Its a statement about younger teams being carried. In the vast majority of cases, I can handpick two kids from any top team and drastically change the outcome of that team.

I'm on my third cycle as a parent. And - while there is certainly some truth to what you're saying at rec level and probably at the lower levels of travel - the higher level the less it is the case, and at the very top level it is not the case at all.

It is most prevalent at the top level.

[Anonymous]

Let me clarify....good older teams have depth. They can sub without causing a decline in play. Most younger teams cannot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding the results posted above, I think the ECNL clubs are only playing 6 matches against each other (U13, U14, U15, U16, U17, U18/19) not 7.

Yeah - you're right. Must have double counted one age group. Hopefully this is better (it doesn't really change the conclusion):

Arlington (W12 D4 L2)

vs VDA W4 D1 L1
vs McLean W3 D2 L1
vs Loudoun W5 D1 L0


BRYC (W4 D2 L12)

vs McLean W0 D2 L4
vs Richmond W1 D0 L5
vs VDA W3 D0 L3


Loudoun (W1 D3 L14)

vs Richmond W1 D0 L5
vs VDA W0 D2 L4
vs Arlington W0 D1 L5


McLean (W5 D5 L4)

vs BRYC W4 D2 L0
vs Arlington W1 D2 L3
vs Richmond W0 D1 L1


Richmond (W11 D1 L2)

vs Loudoun W5 D0 L1
vs BRYC W5 D0 L1
vs McLean W1 D1 L0


VDA (W8 D3 L7)

vs Arlington W1 D1 L4
vs Loudoun W4 D2
vs BRYC W3 D0 L3

The match results were not correctly recorded on the ECNL boys website. your data source is not reliable.

[Anonymous]

If a team has real depth, they can sub on impact players to exploit fatigue. A solid 1-18 is hard to come by in the older age groups without consolidation.